tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post114108418916132431..comments2024-03-27T15:07:31.495-04:00Comments on <b><center>Unorthodox-Jew </center></b> <br><small>A Critical View of Orthodox Judaism</small>: Two Victims Of Kolko/Margulies/Yeshiva Torah Temimah Respond To The Jewish Press And The Mindless Garble FROM the Jewish PressPaul Mendlowitzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05887774341136059873noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141301432041145372006-03-02T07:10:00.000-05:002006-03-02T07:10:00.000-05:00Dennis Rapps.Dennis Rapps.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141272558427133282006-03-01T23:09:00.000-05:002006-03-01T23:09:00.000-05:00Boog,Is the name Danny Rapps or Dennis Rapps?Boog,<BR/><BR/>Is the name Danny Rapps or Dennis Rapps?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141260776581291412006-03-01T19:52:00.000-05:002006-03-01T19:52:00.000-05:00to anon and all those questioning who the real Edi...to anon and all those questioning who the real Editorial writers of the JP are:<BR/><BR/>Lawyer Danny Rapps is the author of the Pashkivil Editorial that appeared the other week in the JP.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141155868304004452006-02-28T14:44:00.000-05:002006-02-28T14:44:00.000-05:00How about a boycott of the JP and its advertisers ...How about a boycott of the JP and its advertisers until they step up?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141153939449906852006-02-28T14:12:00.000-05:002006-02-28T14:12:00.000-05:00Not sure why you are coming down so hard on the Je...Not sure why you are coming down so hard on the Jewish Press.<BR/>_________________________________<BR/>There are two major reasons why the the Jewish Press is being taken to task here. One is proceural and one is substantive:<BR/><BR/>1) Procedure: <BR/>This comment truly demonstrates the insular mentality surrounding the current regime in the Jewish Press, which has been the subject of commentary here. The Jewish Press takes a strong position on an explosive issue affecting the community but then expects to tap dance away without consequence.<BR/>If you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen.<BR/><BR/>By analogy, on the Tendler issue, the Jewish Press believes it will suffer no loss of credibility if Rabbi Tendler is found guilty, since it was only opining on procedure not substance. This position is dangerously naive. The Jewish Press clearly undertook a serious investigation of the charges and believes Rabbi Tendler is innocent. You don't invest all that energy in a guilty man. In the court of public opinion the Jewish Press is percieved as the champion of Rabbi Tendler's cause. If it turns out that the RCA was right the Jewish Press will have serious egg on its face. We doubt that we'll see a mea culpa. If anything we'll see pyrotechnical word parsing worthy of Jackie Mason; we didn't say it and even if we said it we didn't mean it and it wasn't me it was my brother yada yada. <BR/><BR/>The Jewish Press has taken a strong stand on an issue which it admittedly didn't bother to investigate the truth of the charges leveled. The same dangerous word parsing game is being played here; we were only opining about procedure not substance. The Jewish Press needs to get real and come out of its insular cocoon or go back to the good old days of "Israel Wins" headlines and the like.<BR/><BR/>2) Substance:<BR/>If somebody gets an anonymous letter that their house is on fire the first instinct is to check if its true. After they have made that inquiry they may inquire further into the method of delivery. The Jewish Press' abysmal failure to recognize this letter for being just that and respond accordingly, truly calls into question its professional judgement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141153499834909352006-02-28T14:04:00.000-05:002006-02-28T14:04:00.000-05:00* its sad when serious issues are left in the hand...* its sad when serious issues are left in the hands of utter incompetents.*<BR/> So that makes you *super intelligent* guess.<BR/> That being , what better plan do you YES have to put down ACTIVE AND NON ACTIVE child molesters in our yeshiva system as well as those that harbor them , such as principles and board members.<BR/> If you have something better to offer us, then tell us.<BR/> Otherwise Just shush your trap.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141145355398625232006-02-28T11:49:00.000-05:002006-02-28T11:49:00.000-05:00UOJ:Thanks for posting these comments. When the s...UOJ:<BR/><BR/>Thanks for posting these comments. When the story breaks in the secular media, which is clearly where this is headed, you can respond to the “Akum” critics by showing them these comments.<BR/><BR/>It’s sad but true that the only route to take here is exposing these Dark Age practitioners of our faith for what they are. Self-interested cover-up artists.<BR/><BR/>Let the fair minded, rational secularists deal with these child molester enablers. They’ll get what they deserve and we’ll get some sorely needed changes to our backward system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141145042107878982006-02-28T11:44:00.000-05:002006-02-28T11:44:00.000-05:00There is a very important post here saying there w...There is a very important post here saying there was a Sunday meeting of 30 parents, children, and lawyers. This post states:<BR/><BR/>"WE HEARD TESTIMONY FROM CHILDREN....."<BR/><BR/>Is this true? Somebody better find out. Is he still abusing children? If he is, there's no statute of limitations that will stop a prosecution. <BR/><BR/>I'm dubious. What parents would let their children testify in front of a tzibur about such things? What for? But if its true, if the menuvel is still doing it, we got a big problemo <BR/>on our hands.<BR/><BR/>Please, somebody, check this out. And if its true, go to the cops. No mesirah.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141140443995079022006-02-28T10:27:00.000-05:002006-02-28T10:27:00.000-05:00I'm wondering altogether about UOJ's "strategy". ...I'm wondering altogether about UOJ's "strategy". Lets see: he hasnt made an attempt to get this into criminal court or to get an investigation started, and he hasn't attempted to sell this story to a mainstream secular news source like the post or daily news or the times. What has he done? Gotten a personal injury lawyer who works on contingency to consider a civil case (anyone can file one, after all, you dont need pesky things like investigations or evidence), and been rejected by a rag like the Jewish Press. So what ARE we to beleive about UOJ based on his strategy thus far? Either he has no case or he's a strategic idiot. Take your pick.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141140327343147432006-02-28T10:25:00.000-05:002006-02-28T10:25:00.000-05:00Not sure why you are coming down so hard on the Je...Not sure why you are coming down so hard on the Jewish Press.<BR/><BR/>--------------------------<BR/><BR/>Simple. You and your father stepped in it up to your knees. Wash yourselves off, change your pants and shoes and check out the validity of this accusation.<BR/><BR/>Stop defending your error, correct it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141140057857993052006-02-28T10:20:00.000-05:002006-02-28T10:20:00.000-05:00As Albert Einstein stated:"Few people are capable ...As Albert Einstein stated:<BR/><BR/>"Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions."<BR/><BR/>Thus, the Jewish Press excoriates the methods used to expose a child molester while remaining silent about the underlying issue.<BR/><BR/>Will the Jewish Press have anything to say after Kolko is proven guilty?<BR/><BR/>Time will tell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141139601133471212006-02-28T10:13:00.000-05:002006-02-28T10:13:00.000-05:00Amazing. The rhetoric here, the sheer cult of per...Amazing. The rhetoric here, the sheer cult of personality surrounding UOJ is remarkable. Kind of like Hitler or Mao, in a tinpot sort of way, with slightly less intelligent followers. 5 star general? Secret plan? "multi prong?" face it, you're an idiot. This reads like a bunch of ten year olds playing in a tree fort. But the toys here are people's lives. its sad when serious issues are left in the hands of utter incompetents. <BR/>Personally, if you had real facts and evidence, you'd be selling this story to a real newspaper and not whining about how the jewish press failed to cover it. Think about it - you dont even have evidence good enough for the Jewish Press!!!! That's astounding.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141136979878785152006-02-28T09:29:00.000-05:002006-02-28T09:29:00.000-05:00Readers,UOJ can not disclose the details of the mu...Readers,<BR/><BR/>UOJ can not disclose the details of the multi-prong assault on the criminals.<BR/><BR/>We are at war with the enemies of Judaism, no "five star general" discloses their battle plan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141136550326581482006-02-28T09:22:00.000-05:002006-02-28T09:22:00.000-05:00Above Anonymous,I'm coming down on the Jewish Pres...Above Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>I'm coming down on the Jewish Press because we informed them weeks before the letter went out asking them to investigate.<BR/><BR/>Instead they chose to report that "O.J." Margulies " vigorously denies the allegations."Paul Mendlowitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05887774341136059873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141136184792578542006-02-28T09:16:00.000-05:002006-02-28T09:16:00.000-05:00Not sure why you are coming down so hard on the Je...Not sure why you are coming down so hard on the Jewish Press. They were able to verify what was happening with Tendler, they cannot verify as of yet what statements are being made in this Blog and the mass mailings you sent out. If they could be contacted by the Lawyers and maybe have explained to them the amount of people who are coming forward then you would probably change their mind. However they are correct that they are unable to go forward and publish anything against these two people until absolute proof has been established. <BR/><BR/>I haven't seen the JP usually back down from an issue that they have been able to investigate themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141136134097124162006-02-28T09:15:00.000-05:002006-02-28T09:15:00.000-05:00Writing this sort of letter is their only hope for...Writing this sort of letter is their only hope for survival. Otherwise, they're finished. UOJ, please tell us when their day of reckoning will be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141136038102651092006-02-28T09:13:00.000-05:002006-02-28T09:13:00.000-05:00Above Anon Idiot-You're clueless.Thirty parents me...Above Anon Idiot-You're clueless.<BR/>Thirty parents met on Sunday to prepare TT for life after Margulies.<BR/>We heard testimony from children and their parents in the presence of their attorneys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141135419780582622006-02-28T09:03:00.000-05:002006-02-28T09:03:00.000-05:00UOJ - your game is up you did not proceed with the...UOJ - your game is up you did not proceed with the rest of your Maakos and the Lawyer has not done anything. Here in Flatbush the story is long dead. Move on to a new topic you because this is very boring.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141132588853566382006-02-28T08:16:00.000-05:002006-02-28T08:16:00.000-05:00To The Board Of Shmendricks At Torah Temimah,Do yo...To The Board Of Shmendricks At Torah Temimah,<BR/><BR/>Do you want to write a letter similar to KNH now, or after Torah Temimah is destroyed and confiscated by the court?<BR/><BR/>SUSPEND both Margulies and Kolko NOW, before it's done for you by the justice system!Paul Mendlowitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05887774341136059873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141118814135331442006-02-28T04:26:00.000-05:002006-02-28T04:26:00.000-05:00I know this is not exactly on topic, but I thought...I know this is not exactly on topic, but I thought y'all would like to see this re. Tendler.<BR/><BR/>now lets see if he leaves or starts another bais din argument (we all know the answer to that one!)<BR/><BR/>Kehillat New Hempstead<BR/>720 Union Road New Hempstead, NY 10977 (845) 362-2425 <BR/><BR/>To: Members and Friends of Kehillah New Hempstead<BR/>From: Board of Directors and Board of Trustees<BR/>Date: February 28, 2006<BR/>———————————————————————<BR/>—————————————<BR/>It is with a heavy heart that we are compelled to write this<BR/>correspondence.<BR/><BR/>As you are all aware of the controversy and issues surrounding our<BR/>Rabbi, Rav Mordecai Tendler, and the resulting harms on our<BR/>community and Kehillah, the Board of Directors(”Board”) in<BR/>accordance with its fiduciary responsibilities, has undertaken the<BR/>necessary due diligence to determine the source, accuracy, extent<BR/>and affect of those issues. <BR/><BR/>After months of extensive investigation and outreach, the Board<BR/>pursued the input of many persons with knowledge of the underlying<BR/>issues, as well as attempting to engage the Rabbi, and his<BR/>representatives, in the appropriate dialogue to achieve a resolution<BR/>of remedial and rehabilitative cures. These issues concerned the<BR/>following:<BR/>(i) the accuracy of certain explanatory statements made by the Rabbi;<BR/>(ii) a continuing spiritual deficiency in KNH;<BR/>(iii) a related loss of membership;<BR/>(iv) an associated overall decline of community support for KNH;<BR/>(v) the lawsuit commenced by Adina Mermelstein;<BR/>(vi) the failure to adequately apprise the Board of the Rabbi’s<BR/>defensive efforts; and,<BR/>(vii) a corresponding loss of financial funds and support for KNH. <BR/><BR/>To date, and since the inception of the controversies, the Rabbi has<BR/>failed to acknowledge or resolve the breadth of these issues. This<BR/>failure has been consistent and now affects the very manner in which<BR/>the Kehillat needs to function.<BR/><BR/>Being unable to confirm and verify the Rabbi’s defensive positions,<BR/>the Rabbi’s continuing lack of responsibility, aware of the<BR/>worsening negative ramifications affecting the Kehillah, the growing<BR/>chorus of controversies and issues, and being further convinced that<BR/>a resolution of the above issues are highly unlikely, the Board has<BR/>voted to suspend the Rabbi from his rabbinical duties, compensation<BR/>and responsibilities, the suspension to commence on February 28,<BR/>2006 and remain until a final determination from either a court of<BR/>competent jurisdiction or agreed beis din, or a final negotiated<BR/>resolution. The decision comes on the heels of a prior recent<BR/>request that asked that the Rabbi take a leave of absence, that<BR/>being subsequent to many months of recommending remediation and<BR/>rehabilitation, acts which were not pursued by the Rabbi. <BR/><BR/>Our decision to suspend, of course, took into consideration the<BR/>Rabbi’s active participation in the birth and growth of our<BR/>Kehillah, his long-standing commitment to our Kehillah and community<BR/>and the extent of his outreach efforts. <BR/><BR/>While we are mindful of the range of anticipated member reactions,<BR/>we believe that the Board’s decision is in the best interest of the<BR/>Kehillah. To correctly communicate this stance, we are attempting<BR/>to coordinate a forum to discuss the Board’s efforts, the Board’s<BR/>decision herein, as well as our healing and rebuilding intentions. <BR/><BR/>Lastly, decisions that concern the very essence of our personal and<BR/>spiritual relationships are never easy. Being exposed, though, to<BR/>the harms which emanate from our awareness of the realm and breadth<BR/>of the existing controversies, we are committed to providing the<BR/>necessary contributions to ensure for the successful implementation<BR/>of our rebirth. We are hopeful we will continue our community<BR/>efforts in this regard.<BR/><BR/>May Hashem bless us to direct the correctness of our actions, bless<BR/>our Kehillah in its spiritual growth and rejuvenation, and bless us<BR/>with Shalom. <BR/><BR/>SP/sp<BR/>cc: Board of Directors<BR/>Board of Trustees<BR/>Daniel Schwartz, Esq.almost_freihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13747171628385093039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141115991778190062006-02-28T03:39:00.000-05:002006-02-28T03:39:00.000-05:00Any victim of or person with knowledge of child mo...Any victim of or person with knowledge of child molestation is requested to immediately contact the Brooklyn DA's office at 718-250-2340 or the local precinct of the NYPD.<BR/>All information will be held in the strictest of confidence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141097021557738132006-02-27T22:23:00.000-05:002006-02-27T22:23:00.000-05:00I think the procedure used herein, namely the Blog...I think the procedure used herein, namely the Blog and the Mass mailing, is justified by simple common sense. <BR/><BR/>Lives are at stake. No other means of removing Kolko have proven succesful. <BR/><BR/>This is the element that the Jewish Press is missing. <BR/><BR/>To me it breaks down like this. <BR/><BR/>Explain to me why dozens of people would accuse Kolko of molestation, albeit only anonymously?<BR/><BR/>Are all the accusations and support attributed to UOJ himself?<BR/><BR/>If not, there is no rational innocent explanation for all these accusation. <BR/><BR/>Does he owe every one of these anonymous accusers money?<BR/><BR/>Did he throw every one of these anonymous accusers out of Yeshiva?<BR/><BR/>So they all ganged up and decided to accuse this innocent man of touching young genetiles?<BR/><BR/>Is this what we are supposed to believe?<BR/><BR/>I feel like I'm taking crazy pills or something.<BR/><BR/>The blind support for Kolko is apalling.<BR/><BR/>I firmly believe that one should not be charged anonymously. However, and considering the natural preventitive forces that prevent victims of molestation to come forward, such a massive outcry should be sufficiant to remove this Kolko guy.<BR/><BR/>The Jewish Press is pathetic as always.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141096829209412462006-02-27T22:20:00.000-05:002006-02-27T22:20:00.000-05:00Response to anonymous (assumed to be Jewish Press ...Response to anonymous (assumed to be Jewish Press "editorial board"). First lets get our facts straight. Using your example, the New York Times, the New York Times publishes the identity of not only the editorial page editors but each and evrey member of its 16 member editorial board. You can check it out as they say; http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/editorial-board.html<BR/>By contrast, the Jewish Press not only does not tell us who the editorial page editors are it has never identified any of the members of the mysterious "editorial board". Its quite obvious that its not the Klass family authoring these editorials but rather a partisan person or persons who have hijacked the paper to further their own parochial agenda. <BR/><BR/>In any event, hiding behind some type of institutionally sanctioned anonymity, does not change the fact that it provides the "editorial board" with a a vehicle to launch its missiles behind an absolute shield of anonymity but not have to take responsibility for the fallout. If you truly have the courage of your convictions stop the nonsense and identify yourself(ves). If you continue to insist on hiding behind the skirts of the anonymous "editorial board" then please steer clear of the issues raised here.<BR/><BR/>In truth, while focusing solely on the inane issue as to the merits and demerits of the "pashkivil" the Jewish Press, hasn't merely struck out -- indeed it completely missed the entrance to the ballpark. The fact that a chronic child molester has evaded justice and continues to do everything possible to evade justice is apparently of no interest to the "editorial board". This is truly another mystery. Perhaps if we knew who the "editorial board" was we would have some insight as to the answer to that question. Perhaps we would understand why only issues having tangential repercussions for Rabbi Tendler such as the use of a "pashkivil" make it through the vetting process of the "editorial board".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141096707488823352006-02-27T22:18:00.000-05:002006-02-27T22:18:00.000-05:00I;m not defending Margulies or Kolko. They are bo...I;m not defending Margulies or Kolko. They are both degenerates. Kolko for his behavior around children and Margulies for protecting him all these years.<BR/><BR/>I am merely commenting on the hypocrisy of the charge of hypocrisy being levied by an anonymous commentator against one of our most illustrious newspapers, the Jewish Press.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21519732.post-1141095430569059052006-02-27T21:57:00.000-05:002006-02-27T21:57:00.000-05:00Are you scrubs joking? He think he clearly explain...Are you scrubs joking? <BR/><BR/>He think he clearly explained why he didn't sign.<BR/><BR/>The same idiot pointed out that the unorhodoxjew doesn't keep Shabbos.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com