THE MOMENT HAS ARRIVED (TO STOP PEDDLING FRAUDULENT INSANITY!)
By Yonoson Rosenblum |
An interview with Rabbi Zev Cohen of Chicago's Special Beis Din dealing with issues of abuse
Chicago's Rav Zev Cohen was on the job less than five years when he first became aware that abusers were preying on members of his community. He was advised by daas Torah to establish a special beis din to deal with the issue. Three decades later, the success of that effort bears significance for the wider Torah world.
When I started thinking about how the Torah community can avoid repeating the traumatic events of the past few weeks, I kept coming back to one name: Rabbi Zev Cohen, the rav of Adas Yeshurun, one of the principal anchors of the West Rogers Park neighborhood of Chicago. With five kollelim from early in the morning until late in the evening, the voice of Torah is constantly heard in the shul.
Over the years, Rabbi Cohen has alerted me to many threats to our communities — the casual entry of cannabis into our celebrations, the dangers of the Internet — all of which he has spoken about loudly and forcibly in multiple forums.
But the reason that I thought about him now is that approximately 30 years ago, he played a pivotal role in the establishment of the first standing beis din to deal with abuse issues — the "Special Beis Din." The Beis Din does not intend or attempt to substitute for law enforcement, but it has carved out a vital role of its own , using its intimate knowledge of the community to deny perpetrators access to past victims or potential future ones.
For years, Rabbi Cohen has been campaigning for communities across America to establish such batei din, and throughout our lengthy conversation, he reiterated frequently that he agreed to speak to Mishpacha in the hope of advancing the communal discussion on the topic.
How did the "Special Beis Din" come into existence?
About 30 years ago, the local mikveh association, Daughters of Israel, had a one-day event for women. At the end of the program, there were a number of breakout sessions, one of which dealt with the trauma of childhood abuse. The organizers expected a handful of women to show up for that. But more than 80 women attended that session. That was the wake-up call.
I was a young rabbi, less than five years in my position, and I did what I always did when I needed the guidance of genuine daas Torah — I called my rosh yeshivah, Rav Yitzchok Feigelstock ztz"l, the Long Beach Rosh Yeshivah. He advised me to set up a beis din to deal with the issue. So I spoke to the two senior rabbinic figures in Chicago at the time, whose authority spanned all the segments of the Orthodox community: the Chicago Telshe Rosh Yeshivah, Rav Avrohom Chaim Levin ztz"l; and Rav Gedaliah Schwartz ztz"l, av beis din of the Rabbinical Council of America and head of the Chicago Rabbinical Council.
They both agreed to serve as dayanim for such a beis din. We were also joined by Rav Shmuel Fuerst, a close talmid of Rav Moshe Feinstein and a nationally recognized posek and dayan. The prestige and authority of the dayanim would prove invaluable over the years in establishing communal trust in the beis din.
Did such a beis din exist elsewhere in the United States? Did you have any precedents in rabbinic literature for the Special Beis Din?
As far as we could ascertain, there were no such batei din then existing in North America, and perhaps in the world. The issue of molestation is barely mentioned in the teshuvah literature. And the leaders of the previous generation, Rav Moshe Feinstein ztz"l and Rav Yaakov Kamenetsky ztz"l, were no longer alive to guide us. That is just one of the reasons that the presence of a highly respected rosh yeshivah and dayanim was so crucial to the beis din's success.
How did you get the word out about the existence of the Special Beis Din?
First, we contacted shul rabbanim, school principals, and therapists within the community. In the early years of the beis din, there were two high-profile cases, involving multiple victims, and our handling of those cases brought the existence of the beis din to public notice.
Just let me interject here that one of the things for which I've been campaigning a long time is that every community have a hotline, like the mental health hotlines that already exist, to which victims or their family members can call. The existence of such a hotline does two things. First, it sends a message to victims that the community takes their suffering very seriously and wants to help them. And second, it lets perpetrators know that there are mechanisms in place that make it likely they will be discovered. That, in turn, makes it much harder for them to tell victims, "No one will believe you."
We have found that the fear of discovery, and the communal outcry that goes with it, is often a deterrent. It appears that the way the Special Beis Din has dealt with the cases has had a positive impact in reducing the instances of abuse. For instance, after our most high-profile case, in which we were forced to take a very public stand to stop the abuse, our caseload has dropped off considerably.
Before we talk about how the Special Beis Din works, can I just ask: Why don't you just tell victims to go to the police?
If a victim tells us that she wants to go to the police, she receives our encouragement. But frequently, victims are too traumatized to testify to the police, and find it easier to speak to rabbanim. In addition, it is important to remember, one cannot just go to the police and have someone thrown in jail. We had one case where the victim wanted to go to the police. The accused immediately posted bail and was soon back on the streets. But at that point, we could no longer impose our own restrictions on the perpetrator, because the police were already involved.
How does the Special Beis Din decide whether the accusations are true or not? What is your standard of proof? It is clearly something much less than the two eidim, subject to rigorous cross-examination.
The standard that we apply is nikarim divrei emes — in other words, does the testimony of the victims have all the markers of truth. There are a number of instances in halachah in which a beis din can impose punishments to remove a threat to the community without the testimony of two witnesses. The Rambam paskens, for instance, that the beis din, in every place and every time, has the power to impose lashes on someone about whom there is a nonstop kol that he is involved in arayos [Hilchos Sanhedrin 24:5]. In the halachic literature, there are discussions of the degree of proof needed for the community to turn someone over to the authorities when that person — e.g., a counterfeiter — represents a threat that could bring punishment on the entire community.
I think it is important to know that over the past 30 years, there was only one case in which the accused denied the charges. In every other instance, there were multiple victims who testified, and the predators admitted what they had done as soon as we confronted them with the accusations.
I've had the feeling in many cases that the perpetrators were relieved to be caught and subject to restrictions that would prevent them from repeating their behavior. The Special Beis Din always imposes the requirement of undergoing therapy on the predator, though it never assumes that therapy by itself is adequate protection for the community.
What happens after the victim's testimony and the perpetrator's confession?
In formulating the restrictions to be imposed on the perpetrator, we first work together with local mental health professionals, who have ongoing relationships with state and city authorities. We present the accused with a set of carefully crafted requirements to which he must conform. That means that the perpetrator must be removed from all the circumstances and situations in which he had contact with his victims. And we try to ensure that he will never be in a place where his victims will see him. That has even included telling a father or a grandfather that he cannot attend his daughter's or granddaughter's wedding. Cases where siblings or other family members are considered a threat are obviously the most complicated, and require extreme sensitivity on the part of the Special Beis Din, working in conjunction with mental health professionals.
The perpetrator may be barred from the men's mikveh and not allowed into shul without a constant shadow. And the permission to attend shul may be conditioned on leaving prior to the kiddush, and never departing from the area of prayer at any time. All those responsible for the places from which the perpetrator is barred or limited will be informed of the restrictions in place.
It is crucial that the perpetrator knows that he is being observed. And further, that if he violates the conditions we have set for him, the entire community will be alerted as to his deeds and his failure to comply with our restrictions. That remains a powerful deterrent even after the passage of much time.
Something I've been speaking about for years is the necessity of a national data bank of abusers so that they cannot just leave one place and return to their former ways in another city. We once had a case where we found out that someone on our lists had taken a job as a mashgiach for a Pesach program. Baruch Hashem, we were successful in having him removed before the program started, but a national database of shuls and organizations, like Agudah, Orthodox Union, and Young Israel, would have protected against him being hired in the first place.
I would guess the Special Beis Din is not exactly like we normally picture a beis din, with the two parties, both standing before the dayanim?
That is true. Just the sight of the perpetrator is often traumatizing for a victim, even if many years have elapsed since the abuse occurred. Unless one has personally had experience with abuse victims, it is impossible to understand the pain that they experience. They will require therapy, often for many years. The trauma continues to plague them for years to come, and unless dealt with, it is likely to result in lifelong struggles.
Many victims do not come forward for years out of feelings of shame and the fear that if anyone finds out about what happened to them, they will not be able to make a shidduch and the like.
The Torah explicitly equates violations of a woman to murder: "for like a man who rises up against his fellow and murders him, so is this thing" [Devarim 22:26]. And in some ways it is even worse than murder, because of the enduring pain.
A perpetrator once told me that he wanted to apologize to his victim. I told him that although there is a place for sincere apology, for what you have done, even if you prostrated yourself on the ground before the victim in a puddle of tears, it would not be nearly enough. An apology is for when you back up and break your neighbor's headlight.
In formulating your remedies, what are your priorities?
Our first priority is the well-being of the victims, doing whatever is possible to help them overcome their pain. For instance, we may often ban the perpetrator from attending simchahs and other communal events where he or she might see the victim, and thereby cause them to relive what they went through.
Klal Yisrael are described as rachmanim bnei rachmanim. And no one has more claim on our sympathy than victims. Over the last two weeks, for instance, I've been asked repeatedly whether it is necessary to remove from one's house the works of a certain author accused in front of a beis din. I'm not going to pasken for the entire world as to what they should or should not do on this matter. But I'm begging parents who feel they must retain the books to at the very least cover them and put them in a box or in the basement out of sight.
You have no idea who is going to come to your home and what they might have gone through. I was told about a woman who is today a teacher in a frum school and was herself a victim. She described walking into her school library and seeing the works of said author still prominently displayed. For her it was like a punch in the gut, absolutely devastating. In the immediate aftermath of the same story, I received calls from two victims who told me that they were re-traumatized just by the publicity surrounding the whole case.
The second priority, which goes hand in hand with the first, is ensuring that there are no further victims.
And a distant third is trying to assist the family of the perpetrator. There is nothing to be gained by unnecessarily depriving the perpetrator of all livelihood. If he owns a business or store that brings him into constant contact with potential victims, obviously he cannot continue in the store. But if he works in the back office, there is little sense in forcing the employer to fire him and leaving the family as a burden on the community.
Have your efforts generally been supported by the community?
To be effective, a Special Beis Din needs the support of the entire community. If the batei din that I envision are going to come into being, the initiative needs to come from both rabbanim and balabatim. Such batei din require communal resources to function effectively.
Have you also found yourself subjected to criticism?
Who is not subject to criticism? (Unfortunately, I bear the scars to prove it.) Usually, the criticism has been: Why weren't you tougher on the perpetrator? Why didn't you just go to the police?
In general, our relationship with the police has been excellent. The statute governing mandated reporters has changed frequently in recent years, but that issue has been negotiated by a group of frum therapists who have good relationships with the police.
It is a mistake, however, to think that the police will be more successful than we have been in stopping the scourge of abuse. The police have told us on many occasions that we are much better positioned than they are to supervise the perpetrator, by virtue of our familiarity with the milieu of the perpetrator and victim. What's a mikveh? Where does the perpetrator daven, and what other situations are ancillary to synagogue attendance? The police know nothing about such things.
As I mentioned above, we support those victims who want to go to the police. I've testified in court in several cases where young men, now in their mid-twenties, have brought damage actions against those who abused them. Sadly, most of those plaintiffs are no longer observant, another indication of the devastation abuse has on the souls of victims.
Reb Zev, thank you so much for taking the time to speak to us about this vital subject.
Let's just hope that the moment has finally arrived, as a consequence of the recent tragedies, for every medium-sized community to establish its own Special Beis Din, and for the smaller communities to be organized to refer to batei din in larger nearby cities. And that this conversation will serve as a catalyst for that.
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ReplyDeleteVicky Polin was the first to publicly call out Ezriel Tauber a serial womanizer.
ReplyDeleteI figured he was up to no good 27 years ago when I saw a heimishe gangster running to Tauber as if Tauber's his personal valet for dirty work. The gangster is accused of being one of the inner circle recipients of the giyoress candidates coerced into sexual servitude by Leib Tropper.
There are some problems with this article.
ReplyDeleteR' Zev Cohen is a good guy but he has been sabotaged time & again by the Agudah Fresser & Telz Chicago presence on that beis din. (How do you think Meisels was given an escape hatch?) And Gedalya Schwartz was a sick man. He & Fuerst have made more mamzerim with their farcical "bittul" kiddushin shtick than the Philly Kaminetzkys will ever accomplish.
R' Zev tells Rosenblum he has scars from victim advocates angry he didn't go far enough. He completely glosses over how hard core Fressers have savaged him much worse than anyone else, how they want to strangle him for straying from the pro-molester playbook of "Boom Boom" Bloom.
Tauber remained a mesarev ledin all the years from 1970s on when several Lakewood yungerleit took him to R' Dovid Cohen's beis din for scamming them in a supposed real estate investment.
ReplyDeletePesi Weinberg
ReplyDeleteThis is going to be long, so just a heads up before I begin:
The moment that has been here the whole time but we just opened our eyes ----
Chicago's Rav was on the job for a full five years before he considered that perhaps there was abuse in his community, something most community leaders figure out on day 1.
He was advised by daas torah to eschew all functional forms of prevention to try an idealistic and untested format that makes him feel real good about himself. Three decades later, he is still covering up assaults under the guise of helping.
When I started thinking about how the torah community could avoid the events of the past few weeks, I had a few thoughts. Confidentiality, oversight, mandated reporting... I then threw all these thoughts out and thought "what happens if I just tell them they are naughty?"
Over the years, this rabbi has focused on the problems plaguing our society, such as happiness, relaxation, and the freedom of information. Now we are hear to talk about a new kind of repression, the only area this rabbi can truly call himself an expert.
But the reason I thought of him now is that 30 years ago, he created a special beis din. Not to replace law enforcement. Of course not. But to give people an alternative to law enforcement and other formal protection measures. And to disempower them from using them.
For years, the Rav has been campaigning to disempower victims all over America. He has graciously agreed to speak to mishpacha today to further spread this poison.
Questions:
ReplyDeleteWas there a beis din like this before?
So there has never been a beis din like this. If you look at the literature, we barely even admitted abuse in our community. And by literature, I mean last week's mishpacha magazine. That's why this is so important. We must develop new ways to ignore victims for the modern age.
How did you get the word out?
First, we told all the people who were supposed to be monitoring of these kinds of things that "we got this". After a few more years of doing nothing, I have been saying for years that it is important to have a hotline. A hotline is a great tool for ignoring victims, because it gives the veneer of helping while providing the people who man the hotline with no agency to actually help. A hotline without a support structure behind it is one of our most effective tools.
We have found that fear of being discovered is a major deterrent to people coming forward, and we have been taking a lot of advantage of that. By making a way for people to come forward privately, it makes them feel like they are taking action to fix there situation while simultaneously removing their ability to pursue recourse when the abuse is not corrected.
Why don't you just tell them to go to the police?
If a victim want's to go to the police, she has our full support. You can tell just how much we know about the abuse in our community that I am only using female pronouns for abuse victims.
But also, while we fully support our victims going to the police, let me publicly dissuade any reader from doing so. Because police are useless. So don't go. But if you do, we support you. But don't. You'll only end up hurting yourself and everyone around you.
What is your standard of proof?
ReplyDeleteObviously we aren't so barbaric as the Torah we idealize that we straight up don't believe women, but we still look at them really seriously and cross examine in a retraumatizing way to maybe sort of believe them if enough come forward.
I think it's important to note that in 30 years, only one accused ever denied the charges. If this sounds odd to you, it's either because a) we are doing an unbelievably incredible job, or b) we are missing all the cases, and our threats are not sufficient to make people even bother denying it. In fact, they are usually relieved to be caught by us because of how much we make it clear we are on their side. You choose which one makes more sense.
What happens once someone gets caught?
We give them some homework to do about not being a bad boy. I believe the goyim call it the honor system, but it's different by us, because all our rabbis can be trusted to be honorable.
And then we remove them from society. Oh wait, no. We sometimes look at their job, and if it allows them to victimize children, we ask them to move one room over. Sometimes, we even make them keep different hours. One thing that we are particularly proud of is that we limit their communal bathing with children. Cases where the abuser is close to the victims, like most cases, require special sensitivity and lightening of these stringent restrictions.
One thing I have been pushing for years is a national bank of abusers, carefully curated to remove any loshon hara, and hosted on a webpage that is not tznius to discuss in frum society. I am sure this will be ironclad.
How does your beis din actually work? Do you give victims the option to confront their accuser?
So because of the very real concern that facing an abuser can retraumatize a victim, we have morphed that into a system that always protects abusers from ever having to face their victims.
The Torah specifically equivocates rape to murder in dvarim 22:26. I will conveniently not mention that 22:25 instructs you to murder raped women who did not cry out, because victim blaming, and dvarim 22:28 that makes it explicitly clear that the crime is that you have wronged the man who owns her and devalued his property.
A perpetrator once told me he wanted to apologize to his victims. Because he wasn't in jail, or facing negative consequences, this was a casual conversation over dinner. I quickly counseled him away from doing that using vague platitudes that show "I get it". It's best that instead of seeking closure and healing, we just kind of stop talking about it. K?
ReplyDeleteWhat are your priorities?
Well, me and my position. Oh, you meant for the beis din? Ya, still, me and my position.
Obviously we want to help the victims. That's the first thing. Of course, the victims. Where would I be without the victims?
Now, klal yisroel is famously compassionate. Just this week, people even wanted to remove some books that detailed how a abuser molested his victims, and nu, I'm not going to go so crazy as to tell everyone to get rid of them, but that's more of a basement book. You think the police would take such a courageous stance?
Then comes making sure they don't reoffend. I will give no further clarification on how we do this. Seriously, a giant essay, but this paragraph is poignantly empty.
And third, it's about providing support to the abuser and their family. It's really important that we minimize the negative effects of abuse. The abuser's family is innocent after all. And doesn't that make them the most important?
So new priority list. First, we have to take care of the innocent family members. That has to be priority one. Then the crap about the victims. Finally, if there is time, let's stop them from reoffending. Somehow.
This could have been a great essay but author Pesi had to ruin it with her anti-Torah agenda.
ReplyDeleteThe Torah is anything but barbaric. Pesi needs to pull her head out of her derriere and stop misrepresenting the Torah in a way which is actually on the same page as the molester advocates she savages. Both Pesi & the molester advocates pretend that women are to be ignored as lone witnesses below the bar of bearing witness. The halacha however does NOT require edus in abuse cases. The Torah purposely lowered the bar to seek justice for the victims.
It's otherwise sad that Pesi wishes an adulteress should be held unaccountable. In Pesi's warped world it's hey, let's do away with one of the Ten Commandments by pretending it's demeaning to demand that someone scream if truly a victim. And let's further mock the Torah because it also considers the monetary angle in addition to a much larger set of damages, so let's pretend the money angle is primary because that's a good way to demonize the Torah to whoever is reading Pesi's propaganda.