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Arbel added that there were 1,500 men in every haredi age-group who could be drafted immediately, and "who must be part of those carrying the burden."
The haredi public must internalize that they will need to begin committing national service, Interior Minister Moshe Arbel (Shas) said in a podcast that was published on Thursday.
The comment was rare, as haredi leaders have largely refrained from taking the side of increasing haredi service since a crisis over the issue broke out in February, when the defense ministry revealed that it was planning on overcoming a lack of manpower by increasing mandatory and reserve duty, and not by drafting thousands of haredi men, who enjoyed a blanket exemption.
The legal foundation for this exemption expired on March 31, and according to a Supreme Court temporary directive on March 28, the state is now required to draft haredi men and must provide by April a progress report on the matter. The court will hear the case of whether to make the directive permanent on June 2.
"The reality after October 7 is that the haredi public must understand and internalize that there is no moral option to continue this way," Arbel said on a podcast by an organization called "Hariv'on Herivi'i" [Hebrew for "Fourth Quarter"] that was recorded weeks ago but published on Thursday.
Hardei men must start "carrying the burden"
Arbel added that there were 1,500 men in every haredi age-group who could be drafted immediately, and "who must be part of those carrying the burden."
"In addition, there are more than a few institutions defined as being for at-risk youth. All of these institutions – there is no justification in the world that those for whom Torah is not their vocation will not be a part of the army," Arbel said.
Arbel made similar comments during an interview with the Jerusalem Post that will be published in the Magazine section on the first Passover holiday (April 22).
According to its website, "Hariv'on Herivi'i" is an "all-Israeli civil mass movement, working for the transition of Israeli democracy from a politics of submission and victories to a 'politics of hospitality' and solutions."
Shas, which represented Sephardic Israelis, put out a statement on Thursday, apparently in response to Arbel's comment:
"The topic of the conscription law and the status of the holy yeshiva students is bestowed only in the hands of … Moetzet Chachmei HaTorah [Hebrew for "Council of Torah Sages"] … and is managed by the movement's chairman Rabbi Aryeh Deri and his representative in the negotiations Rabbi Ariel Atias. The movement's representatives were instructed not to speak at all on the topic. Shas's stance is expressed only by the Shas movement's official organs."
Arbel's comments came after a number of conflicting public statements by rabbis affiliated with the Shas in the past week.
These included a letter signed by some of its leading rabbis calling for no conscription whatsoever, but also a statement by Rabbi Moshe Maya, a former Knesset member for Shas and current member of the Council of Torah Sages, in favor of the ongoing negotiations on the matter.
Thursday included additional developments regarding haredi conscription on a number of fronts.
On the legal front, the Attorney General's Office revealed in a letter to the government that it has yet to receive for legal examination a plan for conscription that reflects the current legal situation.
The letter was a response to a letter from Government Secretary Yossi Fuchs to the AG demanding independent representation in the pending court case on the situation.
The AG is the government's statutory legal counsel before the Supreme Court. Still, Fuchs claimed that there was an "essential gap" between the government and the AG's positions that was "unbridgeable." The AG's answer was that the government has yet to put forward any position whatsoever that had "real content" or was based on "fundamental professional basis," and therefore could not examine whether or not the positions were compatible.
The letter did reveal, however, that talks were being held "at a number of levels" in the defense establishment to come up with a government-proposed bill. The AG's office stressed that until such a bill passes, continuing the blanket exemption was illegal, and the government was required by law to draft haredi men of the appropriate age.
On the negotiation front, Kikar Hashabat's Yishai Cohen reported that the current number being discussed is 25% of every haredi age group.
There are approximately 12,000 men in every age group, and this would mean 3,000 every year – far more than the current numbers.
According to Cohen, there would also be closer oversight of yeshivot by the authorities, and sanctions if these numbers are not met.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-796584?
The Arabs and the Chareidim are eerily similar.
ReplyDeleteFor 3 generations, Arabs have been taught that Israel is a temporary aberration and that eventually they will return to their villages and orange groves after the Zionists are wiped out. So they sit back and refuse any offer of peace and coexistence because for them, only the complete elimination of Israel is acceptable. That's why 70% of them or more support Hamas despite what's happened.
For 3 generations, Chareidim have been taught that Israel is an evil country whose existence defies God's will and that only their sitting and learning is what protects it from being destroyed. So they sit back and refuse any offer to "Share the burden" because for them, it's their not sharing the burden that gives the State its strength. That's why 70% of them support not going to the army.
70% for both. Gotta wonder.
https://theunorthodoxjew.blogspot.com/search?q=aron+kotler+wasserman
ReplyDelete“Rabbi Wasserman, Rabbi Kotler, Rabbi Rottenberg from Antwerp, rabbis from Czechoslovakia and Hungary were unanimous in rejecting any proposal for a “Jewish State” on either side of the Jordan River, even if it were established as a religious state because such a regime would be a form of heresy in our faith in the belief in the coming of the Messiah, and especially since this little “Jewish” state would be built on heresy and desecration of the Name of G-d.
In Plain Language : The cause of perhaps a million deaths!
ReplyDelete“We must emphasize and declare the position of our holy Torah in order to banish any confusion of ideas. Inasmuch as there are Jews who are Torah-observant who say that a Jewish State would be the “beginning of the Redemption,” we must inform them of the position of our Torah that this is nothing less than the beginning of a new Exile! What do I mean? After all, Jews have been living in Exile for some two thousand years, so how can this be a “beginning” of a new Exile? My intention is to expose the so-called Jewish Communists. An Exile such as this has never existed until today. None of us can even describe such an exile, an Exile under Jews! Only Jews from Russia have a slight sense of this situation, even though the regime there is not a “Jewish” one. One of the great rabbis of this generation recently told me that the term “beginning of the Redemption” in reference to the Zionist movement makes his hair stand on end!
"One of the great rabbis of this generation recently told me that the term “beginning of the Redemption” in reference to the Zionist movement makes his hair stand on end!"
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He was referring to the great debate with Rav Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz ZTVKL.