Published with permission granted by Michael Lesher
Dear UOJ:
My name is Michael Lesher, and I hope you've seen the recent spate of articles about my campaign to revive the case against Avrohom Mondrowitz. (New York Post, July 25; Village Voice, July 25; now the front page of Forward, July 28). I will be happy to forward to you any of these articles if you haven't yet seen them -- or you can get from the my web site, www.MichaelLesher.com, by going to the bottom of the "Press and Presentations" page and clicking on the relevant links.
I'm a ba'al t'shuva, a writer by preference and experience, also a lawyer, and (as you can see from the site) I've been devoting my legal efforts primarily to help abused children and parents who try to protect them -- but are getting a raw deal from the courts and/or the child welfare system. I'm co-author of From Madness to Mutiny: Why Mothers Are Running from the Family Courts -- and What Can Be Done about It (University Press of New England, 2005). I've written several articles and columns on child sex abuse, including child sex abuse in the Orthodox community. For the last eight years, I've made the Mondrowitz case one of my obsessions; I spent over two years fighting FOIA battles to get government documents that proved the Brooklyn D.A. had quietly allowed the case to wither, I've tried to get to the bottom of Mondrowitz's claims to have rabbinic support, I've even corresponded briefly with him. Now, after years of efforts during which I felt alone, I've been approached by four Mondrowitz victims in a few weeks, and I've been trying to use their voices -- and what I know -- to build a public outcry to ignite this case.
Why? First, because I suspect Mondrowitz may have abused as many as hundreds of children (who are now grown), most of them within the Orthodox community. Bringing him to justice could -- to the extent justice ever does -- heal a very large number of private wounds.
But I also believe it could heal public ones, for rarely has there been so heinous a case that suffered from so much PROVABLE mishandling on the part of the secular authorities. If they can be prodded into reopening the Mondrowitz case -- and I believe this is possible -- the truth that will emerge, I hope, is the story of a social and political crime. A crime all the uglier, I might add, because carried out against large numbers of a community's most helpless members -- in the name of the community.
I realize I'm writing a lot, and you probably have little time for this sort of thing. I write to you because I want to ask your help. I see that you've started a thread based on the recent Voice article. As a result of that article, Victim #4 has just called me. I am working for all such people free of charge for the sole objective of trying to bring this case to such brightly-lit, band-playing, rip-roaring public attention that no one, either in the Orthodox community or in public life in New York City, will be able to ignore it.
Could you let your bloggers know about me, let them know how eager I am to hear from more Mondrowitz victims, and make my contact information available to all? I can be emailed at mlesher@att.net, or through my web site (which I invite everyone to see to learn about me), MichaelLesher.com.
I know that there are many other abuse cases. But this is one of the unusual cases in my experiences (I've researched the case against Shlomo Hafner in great detail and know about some others, too) in which the existing legal criminal process (the man has been indicted, and as a fugitive could be tried at any time), the proven facts, the number of highly credible victims, and the stated (if disingenuous) position of the Brooklyn D.A. all make a prosecution possible. And if a prosecution really happens, I feel strongly that much more than a conviction against one man is likely. The trial and its accompanying publicity would likely bring to light a long history of inaction -- or active suppression of evidence -- on the part of important community "leaders." And that, I think, is where our interests likely intersect most decisively.
I apologize for the length of this note. Please let me know what you think. I'm new to blogging, but from what I've seen of your aims and your batting record, I'd like to be working with your aid.
Michael Lesher, Esq.
mlesher@att.net
>(973) 470-0212
Update: Leizerowiz lives on Rechov Yechezkel 102, and is trying to get a job in a Yeshiva in Jerusalem called Hasmodos Hatorah.
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I JUST RECEIVED THE MESSAGE BELOW FROM A CONCERNED PARENT.
THESE SAME CAMPS THAT SENT A LETTER EXPRESSING A ZERO TOLERANCE OF ANY ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR BEFORE CAMP STARTED, SEE NO CONFLICT IN ALLOWING A KNOWN PEDOPHILE TO ACCOMPANY THEIR CAMPERS TO A WATER PARK.
OUTRAGEOUS!
Dear Un-orthodox Jew,
I was greatly bothered that when I went to Lake Compounce on July 20 when all the frum camps rented it out that to my surprise the person running the show was none other then Yudi Kolko. I am sure none of the parents of these young campers have any idea who runs the trips but HOW CAN THE CAMPS ALLOW AND TAKE SUCH A RESPONSIBILITY TO LET THEIR CAMPERS RUN AROUND (in bathing suits) WITH A MOLESTER ON THE LOOSE? And what bothers me more is that I just got notice that he is running the park again for other camps during the second half of the summer on Aug. 9th. How can the camps be so naive to allow this? I think action must be taken and parents have to know who are running the trips their children go on. I thank you in advance for taking action and not letting this Minuvel get near our children.
Concerned parents; please contact the park and express your concerns to them. Unlike our camps and yeshivas, no responsible water park will allow an accused chronic pedophile to enter their facility.
Lake Compounce Family Theme Park
271 Enterprise Drive
Bristol, CT 06010
E-mail:
info@lakecompounce.com
Main phone number:
860-583-3300
Administration fax number:
860-589-7974
Group sales and marketing fax number:
860-585-9987
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Liezerowitz is actively looking for a chinuch job in Israel to prove his innocence. Anybody who knows his current address in Israel is requested to post it here to keep innocent boys in Israel from falling prey to this despicable noief.
We must alert his neighbors to the things he has done here. We had him on the run till now and were not about to drop the ball now. And were not going to stop till Ger apologizes and implements the safeguards undertaken by the public schools and those of other cults i.e. Christians Lutherans Methodists and Catholics. Its either this or lawsuits.
Pick your poison.
UOJ,
Are you still determined to have YTT shut down, or are you content with the fact that Kolko is gone?
tuvya's motives are very pure. We are excited that he and his rebbe support popular causes.
Mr. Lesher can judge the acuity of tuvya's critical arguments himself. All that matters is results. If sickos can be reined in, that's a mitzvah. If fake frumkeit can be made pure, Moshiach will be brought nearer.
In the meantime, thanks to open discussion, our world is a better place.
I personaly vouch to the extent humanly possible for Mr. Lesher's sincerety and am convinced that his motives are pure. Highly recommended and understanding of the issues, I believe all victims of Mondrowitz should avail of his free service. He guarantees anonimity of his clients and all those who asist in this lonely and holy endeaver. I tried him and found the unburdening of my secret pain to him to be very therapeutic. G-d bless Mr. Lesher and G-d bless those suffering alone in silence to have the strength to step out from the shadows and do something for themselves and for the greater good of orthodox jewry which has floundered and drifted far off the right course.
Anyone notice how enduoj's blog (enduoj.blogspot.com) and tuvyas blog use the exact same color scheme?
Coincidence? or proof that UOJ nailed it on the head when he said that End UOJ and Tuvya are one and the same?
You decide.
UOJ
By letting through (or posting) these comments about Leizrovits you are HURTING a whole family, no, not the leizrovits family, the family of the abused victim.
So far that family is the only one publicily known, posting all this stuff just hurts them even more.
I know you care for the victims so PLEASE STOP this Leizrovis commenting
He is gone and is being watched with 70 eyes.
There are elements in ger who are putting a tremendous amount of pressure on that family, this blog is only making things worse.
Trust me, I know them well.
Thank you,
In Reference to Rabbi Belsky, I will agree that he is in fact brilliant and has a huge amount of Torah knowledge. However he is very human and has made an untold amount of errors in judgement throughout his life.
His battle for metziza b'peh, his alignment with the Rubashkin family, his support and knowledge of Kolko's behavior for forty years and doing nothing about it, and his bogus hazmana to Eli Greenwald are indicitave of a human being that's confused.
So it is possible to have Torah smarts, and be wrong, dead wrong in so many other issues. His frenetic endorsement and unendorsement of R' Slifkin is a sign of a man in mental disarray.
History will demonstrate that R' Belsky was a man that could have been the Gadol Hador, but even his own yeshiva would refuse to recognize him as "the" rosh yeshiva.
Who cares about being recognized as the gadol hador? Whoever does, isn't. I admire Rabbi Belsky. I see him with his masmidim at Camp Agudah, as a posek for the O.U. His pesak will be of interest to the board members of the O.U. and the Jewish Week.
Belsky is a wild man with his own personal agenda. The Kolko "hazmana" did him in for the world to see.
but tuvya has told u that uoj is not mainstream orthodoxy. the herd hasn't heard.
UOJ knows that countless victims of Leizerowitz or Liezerowitz are known by name to the Ger community. I personaly know of about a dozen or so. Since this broke open a few months some have come forward publicly. As for the supposed pressure on 1 particular family, know that at least 3 families feel the heat now and some anonymous victims are taking advantage of the fact that they are not known about publicly to rake the Gerrorists over the coals. The victims have stood up to worse and are not about to go away until the whole of Ger bows its head in shame for what they actively and knowingly supported for decades. If anyone were concerned for 1 of the latest victim's families they would confront the problems head on and say "I'm Sorry" and make sure it never happened again. BTW a total of FIVE bochurim in Ger at this time learning in the yeshivos claim to have been molested by this filthy dog over the past three years or so. Anyone looking for the truth about this can easily find a victim to interview. Problem is nobody has the guts to want to hear the truth. Mondrowitz and this mashgiah are just 2 of the animals indicative of the crazy zombies in this sick and perverted community sanctioned and given refuge by the local and central rabbis.
Leisrovits may be gone from here but he is actively attempting to clear his name and is looking for a position in chinuch. I heard this from a gerer in Florida Colony and verified it with a Viznitzer macher in Bnei Braq. In any case I don't know why this blog has been diverted to Belsky and Leisrovits when it is supposed to concern the hunt for Mondrowitz. Let's concentrate on the task at hand now. This is a oppurtunity to bring 1 of the oldest and most devastating cases to justice. Call the DAs office and let them know how u feel about a molester of hunderds going scott free.
As the Orthodox world lines up in the pro and anti UOJ camp, ask yourself just one question.
Are children safer in yeshivas today than they were pre-UOJ?
If your answer is yes, which is the correct answer, this man is a true Jewish hero. He went where no other man went before and made a difference.
Is he perfect? He was the first one to admit that he is human and has made errors.
What have you recently done to correct the many wrongs in the Orthodox Jewish community?
There are elements in ger who are putting a tremendous amount of pressure on that family, this blog is only making things worse.
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So as a soluition you suggest that non Ger cult members give in the the Gerrorists? What will this accomplish?
Here's a solution for you. LEAVE THE CULT!
I personally saw Kolko in a bathing suit at Lake Compounce holding the hands of two children in their bathing suits!
Parents, you will live to regret your ignorance.
Mondrowitz spent his last summer in the US at Fialkoff's Bungalows in Monticello, where he was actively involved with many boys. Parents subsuquently discovered that he molested their children but felt helpless, as he had fled to Israel before they were able to take any action. When Mondrowitz spoke publicly, before his vile behavior was discovered, he had the chutzpah to rank out his listeners for their laxity in observing mitzvos!
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I personally saw Kolko in a bathing suit at Lake Compounce holding the hands of two children in their bathing suits!
Parents, you will live to regret your ignorance
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Who hired him and who's paying him? That's who you should call, not the theme park, they have no control over these things.
The following e-mail was sent to Lake Compounce:
I am writing this e-mail, to put you on notice that you are allowing a suspected pedophile, who has been removed from his position in a private school due to these suspicions to run a program in your waterpark.
Should a claim be made against this person on your premises, you will be held liable.
Well you think that's something? I saw Kolko holding the hands of four children not wearing bathing suits!
C'mon, ask anyone who was there. Kolko organized the thing and was busy speaking to this camp director and that park officer the whole time. He didn't even have time to go on a ride!
Pikuach Nefashos!! Please find out who is psying him. My son is scheduled to go on that 8/9 trip next week. I don't want him within daled amos of this monster.
Torah Temimah Parents:
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Stop posting this idiotic thing. We get ha ha, yudi. That's about ten times, enough already. Let's do something about getting him fired for good and keeping him away from our children.
I JUST RECEIVED THE MESSAGE BELOW FROM A CONCERNED PARENT.
THESE SAME CAMPS THAT SENT A LETTER EXPRESSING A ZERO TOLERANCE OF ANY ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR BEFORE CAMP STARTED, SEE NO CONFLICT IN ALLOWING A KNOWN PEDOPHILE TO ACCOMPANY THEIR CAMPERS TO A WATER PARK
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The theme park says that the camps renting the park all go under one name, "Camp Silver Lake", which is owned by YTT. Which means that Kolko is still running the camp, and which means Margulies never fired him. Administrative leave? What a joke! He's more dangerous in camp.
tuvya will have to find another posek to tell him what he wants to hear, i fear. But, if Rav Belsky is prepared to challenge the airing of views in an open society, by all means, let him speak for himself. If after the Lanner fiasco, employees of the ou wish to be such great tzaddikim at the expense of others, let them, and let's let Gary know too.
No wonder so many are saying tehillim with kavana.
Update Leizrowiz lives on rechov Yechezkel 102 he is trying to get a job in a Yeshiva in Jerusalem called Hasmodos Hatorah.
How come no outrage that Regency Estates gave Kolko an aliyah this past shabbos?
How come no outrage that Regency Estates gave Kolko an aliyah this past shabbos?
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He should get shlishi every week-in the Otisville minyan.
The Jewish Observer recently ran an article written by Yisroel Reisman (and Yisroel Belsky....shhhhh) stating that there was a "probabilty" that Avraham Avinu performed metziza b'peh on himself!!!!!!!
Take your shailos to Belsky...be my guest!
Until there is clear evidence presented in a court of law, yudi kolko is presumed to be innocent under the law of this land, without dass torah.
I know yudi kolko. I can convict him. I personally cannot testify against him. If others can, they will. Then you can speak with outrage, but until then, everyone is presumed innocent under the law until proven guilty through due process.
As imbecilic as rational tuvya seems to be, engaging an anonymous professional who has made such a difference in the frum community over the years (thank you for your selflessness, xxx. Referrals are always welcome), those who convict wholesale are dangerous and not to be believed.
Where is uoj in all this? Is he vindictive and mean? Is this why we love him? hate him? despise him? envy him? want to kill him or give him the hero award? The testimony of an anonymous therapist is hardly convincing. UOJ has his issues, some of them shared by people of good mind and good will. To silence him would deprive leitzim of a moishav (right?) and klal Yisroel of more truth than tuvya wants to know.
By way of introduction, I just want to state that I am an anonymous anonymous and I have an excellent reputation. I am not uoj. Uoj does not always agree with me. I am a letz. He despises leitzonus. He wants tachlis. What does Tuvya want?
Tuvya's blog is providing referrals for social services, free of charge, and he provides excellent service putting people in touch. His choice of words may or may not be appropriate.
If you've been molested or know a molester you'd like to protect, send him an anonymous email and he'll keep everything anonymous and secret.
He is receiving hundreds, many, complimentary emails. This is news. His agenda is to replace uoj, to bring clean air to cyberspace, machshovois toivois instead of machashavois rabbois royois for the self respect of klal yisroel and to prevent hashchosas oylom.
He had the privilege of spending TWO HOURS with the Rosh Yeshiva! He is important. Please send him complimentary emails. He will only censor them if you tell him to.
Tuvya, you are out of your league. You are not a mental health professional. You are totally unprepared to deal with these issues. UOJ, by comparison, has achieved something because he brings media attention to real life problems which need not be covered up for the greater good of public safety. Denying that the yeshiva world operates like the Catholic Church is to deny reality. They have their rock of Peter whose gibberish they must listen to, and we have dass toy rah rah rah which when it's emes, IS Torah, and when it's sheker is another das like the religions of the world, man made religion.
The ribbono shel Olam judges goyim harshly on arayois. It is Hashem who wants evil stopped, who doesn't favor those whose business dealings are not exemplary. He pays them back publicly, not discreetly. If they are innocent, they will prove their innocence by making public statements, but their lawyers have warned them not to. Why?
Because blogs are irrelevant and will simply fade away? Mel Gibson's antisemitism was first reported on a blog. The lawyers know the dangers to the hanhola. They must be careful. You should speak to choshuve rabbonim tied to court cases. They can guide you, tu.
Still waiting for your interview with the Establishment's UOJ.
I am stomping my foot, uoj, are you decent?
Does Rav Belsky deny that he was involved in this case years ago? Is this what you want to tell the world?
I do not claim to know. Only uoj knows if his sources are accurate, but if Rav Belsky wishes you to state publicly that he is an unbiased source, that's what you should be correcting uoj on, not stomping your foot.
Rav Belsky is genuinely an adam choshuv. He is gracious, kind, nice, very learned, and deserves to treated with deference, but that comment aside, whoever wrote it, does not remove the real issue here: did he cover up or not.
Did Camp Agudah cover up or not?
Did anyone know or not?
Is the kol a figment of evil people's warped imaginings, vicious, vile motzi shem ra, or not? I don't know. I wasn't there. The courts will reveal some truth. In the meantime, tuvya is fuming. Please everyone, send him complimentary email.
I'm the guy who yesterday wrote about my hatred for Fishman and his ilk.
Today I turn my attention to Lipa Margulies. My hatred for Lipa is greater than it is for Fishman. I hadn't even thought of Lipa yesterday. Why? Perhaps because it is a given that he is a rasha. For decades, he has employed a known pedophile. He has ignored and sabotaged the pleas of victims. He ignores calls to beis din. He refuses to bend his neck to the rule of any law, secular or halachic.
Now, after repeated exposes in general and Jewish media outlets, he continues to employ a pedophile, this time at a water park, in close proximity to children who are changing into and out of swimsuits.
Fishman believes in G-d and mitzvos. He is just another incompetent bureaucrat. He is the personification of the status quo-loving bureaucrat.
But Lipa? I can't go so far as to say he does not believe in G-d and mitzvos, but the door has been cracked open enough for me to say it is possible. For sure, Lipa is a sonei Yisroel, a Jew-hater. He does not see another Jew as possessing a Divine spark or spirit. He sees another Jew as a mere lump of flesh, that operates on blood, tissue, and nerves, sort of like a car, ready to be used for his own selfish purpose.
Lipa has no boss, do you see? For most of us, G-d is the boss. We submit to His rule of law, often - but not always - subtject to the intepretation of some of our rabbis.
But not Lipa. Forget about yirei shamayim. You can't even mention ohaiv H'. These concepts don't exist in Lipa's world. He is comparable to a Lenin, or Stalin. He is G-d-less, or close to it. No man who believes in
G-d would ever allow a pedophile to hold the hands of children in bathing suits.
So I hate him. I hate Lipa, the sonei Yisroel. You should hate him too.
As I said, I'm a normal man, married with children, professional job, live in a house, I learn Torah.
I know this blog is good for venting but UNTIL YOU PEOPLE COME FORWARD NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE. The authorities (both within and outside the frum velt) DO NOT CARE ABOUT ANONYMOUS POSTERS. THEY NEED WITNESSES AND EVIDENCE.
More eitzas -
1. Hire an investigator to go up to Silver Law, to take photos of Kolko playing near children; give the photos to NY Magazine. And nail them to every tree in the mountains.
2. Somebody, or better a few, ask Rav Dovid Feinstein, Rav Shmuel Kamenetsky, etc., to issue hazmonos to the two ugly pieces of crap, Lipa and Yudi. If they don't show up, cherem.
Folks, you don't know how dangerous these pedophiles are. And Kolko has been at it a long time, since a young age.
And to the people who keep saying, call the authorities, the police, the DA, here's the problem, from what some knowledgeable lawyer told me (guess who): he's not convicted, and there's no law preventing a yeshiva or private camp employing a pedophile. Things are about to change, but not yet.
Of course, if the frum schools and camps were linked together, and had a registry, things would be different.
How low can we go? A frum camp KNOWINGLY employs a pedophile.
To the yid who asked me whether I'm a victim, and I called this a goyishe question.
There's a tradition, as we both know, for speaking sharply at times, in yeshiva, and in emesdik conversations where there's a tachlis. Many true gedolim spoke very sharply at times.
When people speak sharply to me on such occasions, I almost always take it as a compliment, particularly from my own circle of close rabbis. It means they think enough of me that they can say emes or mussar, and not beat around the bush.
You should take my comment as a left handed compliment, also. And besides, its true. An emotionally detached person would ask, What's your interest in this? Did something happen to you, or your family? Why do you care so much? Are you a victim? They can't quite fathom how one person would care so much about another person unless they were both victims. A goyishe question.
The connection between Jews is stronger, which does not need elaboration. That's the reason for OUR fury against the Fishmans, the Blooms, and their ilk. Its as if they're no longer Jews. They're bureaucrats. They're Agudists. They're quasi-goy. Anything but Jews.
And besides, no person with an interest in this issue should be asked, Were you a victim. If he or she volunteers it, fine, but otherwise, don't ask. Its nobody's business, and if people start asking each other questions like that, it will deter other people from getting involved.
One more thing: Fishman and Bloom: Eat shit.
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I will take your sharply worded critique as a compliment as you appear to be a person of truth.
You misread my intentions. It is not because of an emotional detachment G-D Forbid that I am inquiring whther you are a victim. I can certainly understand your caring about the victims even if you are not a victim yourself - though I must add in today's world, it is rare to find a non-victim expressing his empathy so strongly. I laud you for your deep concern.
The reason why I inquired whether you are a victim is because I thought that perhaps yoy might be prompted to speak a bit more freely if another Jew would show concern for your plight. Of course, in person I would never ask questions like that as you correctly point out. These questions are quite hurtful, but through the cloak of anonymity, I believe that it is appropriate to ask an unidentified person whether he is a victim.
I am presently sitting on the Board of Torah Vodaath and have been for years. I too agree that R' Belsky is a genius, therefore what? He will be deposed in the Torah Temimah lawsuit and he will have ample time to tell his story. He has admitted to many that he attended the "Sheinberg" bais din and has regrets about his conduct. His (Belsky's)closest friends in that bais din testified against Kolko in Belsky's presence. He is guilty of not aggressively removing Kolko from the yeshiva payrolls.
The next time anyone sees Belsky, ask him if he remembers Shmuel Dishon's sobbing testimony in bais din? R' Dishon broke down and testified that Kolko was a problem around children in Stolin. There were numerous complaints against Kolko , Dishon testified in Belsky's presence. Did he not believe Shmuel Dishon?
Ask Belsky if he remembers picking up Heshy Fischler over his head in the Aguda of Williamsburg by his shirt (250 lbs.) and threw him out of shul for talking during davening?
Ask Belsky if he remembers picking up Shragi Newhouse a"h in the T.V. bais midrash by his neck and threw him down the stairs for acting chuzpadick?
Yet for Kolko he issues a hazmana l'din to Eli Greenwald for lashon Hara????
Belsky is a loose canon, yes he's brilliant, but mentally unstable.
Question for UOJ
Is there any Rebbe Rosh Yeshivah or Rav that you consider to be up to your standards?
You seemed to have dissed tham all already.
Just a thought.
A second call for decency
Dear UOJ,
Yesterday I asked you to behave like a decent human being, but the only response that I received was one of mockery.
I wish to visit a new issue. I posted yesterday about Rav Belsky. On your blog you allowed vicious things to go up about this adam choshuv (ostensibly from some board member, but likely you own post)that consitute pure sheker, loshon hora, and "tabloid-like" talk. These issues are nothing but character assassasination. I will not dignify such lowlife posts with a response and demand that they be immediately removed.
If they remain up, it is just one more indication that you reek of indecency. It further shows the world what a comtemptible lowlife you are and how your blog is a vile ragsheet.
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Tuvya,
You are an ignorant twerp. If you had a sense of history you would realize that you are engaged in behavior our sages warn us against.
"Kol Hamerachaim Al Hachzorim, Soifoi Lehois Achzor Al Harachamim"
Belsky has been protecting Kolko for decades the same way he protected Brenner and others. He is a menace and must be brought under control.
We intend to do it.
Those who have seen Rav Belsky close up have been exposed to his warm, wonderful side. He can be very gracious, very nice, nice to everyone, including old cronies, old friends, old talmidim who are deferentiual and new ones. When bochurim are chutzpahdik what else can you do? A potch is the way Chazal, das toyra. If we wear hats because previous generations wore hats, why can't rabbeim hit like they always did? Throwing bochurim and kids around is the way of the cheder, the way of das toyreh. The problem is the parents who are exposed to goyishe hashkafos. The parents today won't let a rebbe hit. They won't pay tuition if the rebbe hits. They won't come to the dinner if the rabbeim hit. But, hitting on the talmidim. Who would believe them anyway?
Reb Yid,
Once again, I'm the normal guy, but the angry, the "critique" writer as you say.
We're on the same page, and you sound like a fine fellow, preceisely the type of person who should be more involved in fixing things in our Jewish world. You have me pegged right, too, a man of truth. The more knowledge, the more pain. That is the source of my anger. And by the way, I am not a victim, I'm just knowledgeable about what's happening, about this and other things.
I have to say there are some very smart people on this blog, no quesiton, and you're one of them.
UOJ, it sounded for a while like you were about to go in a different direction, perhaps close the blog, "out" yourself, who knows what.
I agree, the blog is helpful, but it is and will always be ad hoc, if you decide to continue it. Something more concrete is needed, that can be part of the mainstream, and change the direciton of the mainstream. An online Jewish newspaper is a superb idea. Brilliant. The need for a Yeshiva Parents Association is self evident.
If you're in a position to do this, do this.
Anyone know where Avreml Mondrowitz lives today? He is somewhere in Jerusalem. Anybody with any info please post it here.
UOJ wants to remain outside the mainstream.
You want a newspaper, no newspaper.
tuvya doesn't want a rag, sheet.
uoj is unconventional, iconoclastic, an individualist.
more power to him.
William Bennet says, "a call for decency"
When our moisdois will be less interested in self preservation, self enrichment, all imposed with gradiose arrogance, our world will be a more decent.
Until our leaders speak out, take action and do better, it reeks.
The OU hired a psychologist/Rabbi to help solve their image problem. What pronouncements have we heard from their world leader? Are they part of the problem or the solution?
chutzpa to let kolko be in front of kids
i have a twelve year old nephwey named avi rand he is in the bungolow next to kolkos once i told his parents they switched bungolowes kolko is a molster you cant let him near kids and if camps dont understand that parents shouldent send them there.
uoj, tuvya is harumphed, upset, mocked.
There is such injustice in the world. He wants us to disappear, uoj, no more rabbis out of your hat.
He wants you silenced. The hanhola agrees. All we're waiting for is you.
give up? ok.
we knew you'd do what the hanhola wants. You are a good bochur at heart, down deep, one of us, or at least we thought you were. Save us for your name's sake, uoj. have mercy. we were weak. we'll do teshuvah. we're sorry. it may happen again, but we'll try harder to bash you so hard you don't come back again.
eek. it reeks a
nd the problems with our moisdois are like a canker, decay within.
For some, the issue is molestation; for others, it's corruption. Living in ghettos, total institutions, they are ALWAYS right - until the light of day, and uoj, peeks in.
I'm surprised and pleased to admit that although I'm certain that I have made many enemies over the last seventeen months, the vast majority of e-mails are extremely supportive and encouraging.
I walk around all day with migraines from the sex abuse issue; I can't even ask and never did want to know the gory details of this illness that has so hurt all of us in one way or another.
I urge all parents to wake up and get involved. Contact Eli Greenwald, Elliot Pasik; form your own parent groups but for Heaven's sake, I'm pleading with you to PLEASE protect your own children!
Here is a great link that teacehs you on how to spot a pedophile
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=spot_the_pedo
The bottom line with all of this is that the issue that UOJ has brought to the forefront is what counts. I really don't give two hoots who UOJ is. It makes no difference to me whether he's Zalman Friedman or Dick Cheney.
UOJ has performed a tremendous public service by bringing to the forefront an issue which effects all of us in the frum community and we are all required to respond to with all of our energies to protect our children.
I don't give a flying toot about tuvya or any of this other garbage being spewed here. They are all stupid distractions by complete morons who don't deserve one second of our time. UOJ don't give these people the time of day.
UOJ I don't believe anything is accidental. You took upon yourself an historic mission to fix a horrible problem in klal yisroel. The reason why you took it upon yourself is because you have the unique abilities to carry this mission out. Don't weaken or falter in your mission. stand strong and courageous and you will succeed.
How can we not feel the hurts and slights of klal Yisroyel erev Tisha B'Av?
poor tuvie. He used to tell his loyal followers to do a google search to find his blog. Now, look what you've done.
A decent person, who wants to see good where there is rot. He is against abusers, ignores self abusers, and is loyal to his rebbe who now has more insight into public opinion.
BREAKING NEWS:TUVYA BREAKS RECORD FOR CRAP ON HIS BLOG MOST RECENT POST:
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A second call for decency
Dear UOJ,
Yesterday I asked you to behave like a decent human being, but the only response that I received was one of mockery.
I wish to visit a new issue. I posted yesterday about Rav Belsky. On your blog you allowed vicious things to go up about this adam choshuv (ostensibly from some board member, but likely you own post)that consitute pure sheker, loshon hora, and "tabloid-like" talk. These issues are nothing but character assassasination. I will not dignify such lowlife posts with a response and request that they be removed.
If they remain up, it is just one more indication of your indecency and that your blog is nothing more than a vile ragsheet.
posted by Tuvya at 2:17 PM links to this post
DOSENT EVEN HAVE THE RESPECT TO LET COMMENTS
Tuvya is not accepting comments on his blog for two reasons 1. He only gets two comments (from his mother no less) and is embarrassed_ 2. He is constpetated, since he needs to take a shit but he first asked belsky and belsky said it is asur until after tisha b'av so tuvya waits..and waits...
frightened parent said...
Pikuach Nefashos!! Please find out who is psying him. My son is scheduled to go on that 8/9 trip next week. I don't want him within daled amos of this monster.
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Why are you asking someone to help you? YOU call the camp and say that if Kolko is running the trip, you don't give permission for your child to go. If you can't get a straight answer from them and your son goes, then YOU go to the park to monitor the goings on. It's pikuach nefesh, wouldn't you give up a day of work if your son was kidnapped, mugged, raped etc.?
If the camps are allowing your kids to be Kolko's prey, then you all should go to the camps and take your kids out of camp. If the camps are so irresponsible then who knows what they are capable of. I know it will ruin your summer to have bratty little Moishy at home and it will spoil your vacation plans, but sometimes one must sacrifice for one's child's welfare.
UOJ,
Any block-busting news coming down the pike soon ??
holy brother,
the ribboino shel oilam is dan us k'chut ha-sara. .01% is a big doubt when nefoshois are involved. Ask any poisek. But, if tuvya's poisek wants uo shot, the hanhola knows that the damage is already done. Unveiling uoj accomplishes little now that at least one court case has already been filed. The veracity of the claims will be based upon numbers, evidence, not the discrediting or wounding of any individual. In fact, as tuvya has discerned, nasty people, not uoj, are capable of nasty tricks. I do not approve of these tricks, but think it might be wiser to leave the dog alone.
If tuvya makes rash accusations without substantiation, just hunches, other people's 10,000% certain lashon hara, he's no better than the ones he fears.
Let it go, tuvya. Forget the fight. You've lost the war. Before you shoot, call the hanhola at Ger, Ner Yisroel, and YTT and ask them how to proceed, unless, indeed, you are ytt.
That would explain many things. They have much to lose.
The news that Kolko is administering the water park trip should be on your blog as a post. It is too important to remain in the comments only. Not everyone reads the comments.
so, uoj, tuvya hatzaddik waits until after our bleakest, darkest day to wreak as much damage as he can in defense of his Rebbe and all Rebbes and roshei yeshiva. Imagine the dramatic effect if he would do this at the exact moment we read eleh ezkera, as he rips off your mask, your face, clawing your flesh, such are the heights of righteous indignation, religious fanaticism, "decency."
Batman faced the Joker, uo, whose version of daas torah came from his own mind, unrefined by learning. What is tuvya's quest, after all? A sincere, secretive yearning to do what is right, al pi daas torah, an alternative to or the destruction of uoj? chatoim, not chotim? If that were true, he'd ignore uoj, but if he goes forward now with vitriol and diatribe, tuvya will reveal his true nature. A star in Flatbush. A hero at ytt. The friend of yudi kolko. The protector of Lipa ghoulease. A marionette of the hanhola. Maybe his masters can license a new line of gedolim puppets to complement the cards. tuvya is one of them.
uoj, he charges someone with character assassination. The only way for justice to be achieved is to attempt to kill someone else. The focus here is less to help than to complete revenge. If anyone wishes to email me, I have signed this letter. Please email me at XXXXXXXXXXXXX.com
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Just found out Lezerowiz davens in a shteibel on Rechov Talmudi corner Rehov Ezra/Nechemia (I think they call it Shteibel Zecher Chanoch).
Tuvya is now 98.86% certain the lashoin hara he's been mekabel, the dirty assertions seen on other web postings he's enjoyed reading, are true. How good it feels to be a basher for Toireh. Menuval, Rasho. These words come easy. His children hate him. His parents hate him. Klal Yisroel hates him. He's a lowlife. He's garbage. He's a bum.
How many times have we heard these things from the mouths of Hashem's people? How many times has telling a bochur he's a bum made a positive difference? How many times do those who sport a stylish haircut change because they are told to? If they're in High School, in Camp Agudah, they have no choice but to conform. But, in the real world, such people are bigots, hateful, arrogant.
We don't know who tuvya is. Only his therapist knows for sure. Boruch Hashem he knows someone very, very excellent, very, very successful, who will solve his problems after Tisha Bov.
I am 99.99% sure.
Ladies and Gentlemen:
Kolko while ostensibly on administrative leave, is in fact rubbing suntan lotion all over our children as he struts around wearing a bathing suit.
Many have decried the media exposure and the comparisons between our community and the Catholic community as being a Chillul Hashem.
Friends; the Catholic Church would never allow this insane and outrageous behavior to continue and fester the way we have.
The true desecration of G-d’s name is in allowing the children he has entrusted to your care to continue being destroyed by the likes of Kolko and Margulies, not in the exposure of your negligent behavior.
Anyone who allows their children near this chronic pedophile or his protector is unworthy of calling himself or herself a responsible loving parent.
Mull over that thought and decide if you can live with allowing the likes of Margulies continuing to run a boys school in our community. Then decide what you (not your neighbor, not your rabbi, not UOJ, but YOU) are going to do to make this insanity stop.
This indecent outrage must be ended once and for all.
Margulies: Out. Kolko: Out.
Coward you're scared of putting up my post. Well you certainly have what to be scared of.
You have no right putting up information about people that haven't been officially reported or indicted of any charges. Take them down right now, or you will be sued..... This is a warning!!!!!!!!!
Coward you're scared of putting up my post. Well you certainly have what to be scared of.
You have no right putting up information about people that haven't been officially reported or indicted of any charges. Take them down right now, or you will be sued..... This is a warning!!!!!!!!!
What are the simple folks supposed to do about it take the kids out of every camp?
BULLETIN! BULLETIN! BULLETIN!
The following names keep coming up by readers that are e-mailing information about Mr. "T" co-conspirators:
1- Chaim Leib Brander
2- Avi Feldblum
3- Gil Student
If anyone has additional information about their relationship with "T"....please e-mail it to me at:
a_unorthodoxjew@yahoo.com
UOJ, under his second name "anonymous" posts that enduoj and tuvyasblog have the same theme, which means that they are written by the same person.
I guess we can use that same Einstein analogy about this wacko blog called tuvyaisgay.
UOJ must've started it!!!!!!
ROTFL
Gil Student is the "Jonathan Rosenblum-lite" of the blogosphere.
He also believes it is his duty to police the blog world so that it conforms with his limited views and "daas taiyreh" suck-up opinions.
Gil, gay cocken oifen yam! You and Belsky both!
For the person who asked about Rabbi Mondrowitz, here is a start on locating him. He is in "Kiryat Wolfson, near Shaarei Chesed" ... I am not part of the O or Israeli community so I don't know how helpful this is, but I hope it is a good clue.
I also have the anger of normal guy from the past couple days.
So now I have a question for the b'nei Torah out there:
When I say, V'lamalshhanim al t'hei tikvah, in shmoneh esrei, can I keep some bad Jews of today in mind? Or will it come back agianst me? If I can, how about:
1. Lipa Magulies?
2. Yudi Kolko?
3. other actual pedophiles who have not done teshuva?
4. Joshua Fishman of Torah U'Mesorah?
5. Shmuel Bloom of Agudah?
6. Aaron Twerski?
7. other actual people who enable them, protect them, do nothing to stop them, or just give lip sevice ("zero tolerance policy").
I'm serious. I'd like a real answer, preferably from a real rabbi. I'm also a frum normal guy, married, etc. I know that this paragraph in shmoneh esrei was added later on, so that we could detect the worshippers of Yoshke, but am I allowed to utilize it today, in the way I'm asking?
Sheker ve-chazav! I told Tuvya I would not help him or take a position on this matter. This raises questions about the reliability of your information.
For the record, I only looked at your blog today because someone left a comment on my blog about it (which I deleted).
Due to the comments on www.tuvyaisgay.blogspot.com we are now 98.736% sure that tuvya is an insecure gay man who identifies with kolko.
He never ever speaks with belsky- even belsky tries to avoid him.
He follows 'das torah' on his every move as a defense mechanism aginst the tremendous guilt he feels about his homesexual behavior (he dosen't ask das torah about that).
He dosne;t allow comments on his blog because they are mostly about people who know about him and his frequent gay trips to the village.
He is almost to the point of schizonephrenia- fasting on tisha b'av in the gay clubs...frum/not frum..good.bad...torah/hell
Due to the tremendous volume of information that has been pouring in, I set up a repository email for information that will be posted here on this blog:
endtuvya@yahoo.com
tuvya should understand that there's a long line of folks upset with uoj. Everyone has to wait their turn. Now, if you need a highly qualified putz lawyer, I know a highly regarded, very excellent professional who has served klal yisroyel for umpteen years as a putz and can help. Now, what are we talking about? Suing for calling someone a menuvel? We'll have to go to bais din for that. The dayyanim will meet you on the playground.
In over their head, they cry, eek, "coward."
The following names keep coming up by readers that are e-mailing information about Mr. "T" co-conspirators:
1- Chaim Leib Brander
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So that's who CLB is.
Thinking of the children.
When I think of our children, Chaim Leib Brander, Avi Feldblum and Gil Student, I think of all Jewish children, and what good children they are.
May they never be abused.
Leave comments on hirhurim.blogspot.com and tell Gil Student to knock it off!
It's evident that the "administrative leave" was just a hoax perpetrated in order to calm the stormy waters after the lawsuit was announced in the media. There was no firing or even a temporary suspension, just a two week vacation at the end of the school year. Just like he is still running the camp, Kolko will be back in the classroom at YTT come September. Business as usual.
What are the simple folks supposed to do about it take the kids out of every camp?
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Fortunately this is a very simple situation.
Kolko is a child molester. Margulies is protecting him.
The simple obligation of every parent is to do whatever it takes to keep their children away from Kolko and Margulies.
I don't know 1 or 2, but he definitely does not sound like 3.
I am informed that there is a delay of up to six hours or more until posts wind up on comment moderation. I will post the comments as they show up.
Gil Student has contacted me and vigorously denies that he is involved with Mr." T" in any way at all, although he was contacted by him.
Gil has posted his own comment; I have not received it as of yet!
How Many Survivors Did HaRav Dovid Cohen Turn Away?
Lo ta'amod al dam re'echa. We are forbidden to stand by and do nothing!
I keep hearing about cases in which survivors of childhood sexual abuse went to Rabbi Dovid Cohen for help. Each of these cases Rabbi Dovid Cohen stated that he didn't believe the survivors or that the cases were unsubstantiated.
Rabbi Dovid Cohen is the halachic advisor (advisor on Jewish law) at Ohel (a mental health center in Boro Park). I think it's also vitally important to note that there have been many complaints about Ohel over the years regarding the training and education of those who work in their programs for survivors and offenders. I've also been told that if a therapist at their agency suspects a child is being abused, they need to get the ok from Rabbi Cohen prior to making hot-line reports.
Many Victim Advocates like myself have been saying over and over again that our rabbis DO NOT have the education or training to collect forensic evidence nor know how to conduct victim sensitive interviews. Our rabbis NEED to be working as if they are all mandated reporters. Meaning if they SUSPECT a child is being abused and or neglected -- they pick up the phone and make a hot-line report.
We all NEED to start demanding that when a rabbi hear disclosures they IMMEDIATELY help those who have been "allegedly" victimized contact child abuse hot-lines and or make police reports. Let those who are trained conduct the investigations. The way cases have been handled in the past NEEDS TO STOP TODAY!
The goal is to protect our children from ANY POTENTIAL HARM!!!
Here's a list of some of the cases in which Rabbi Dovid Cohen said were unsubstantiated. If you know of more please post them:
Simcha Adler
Yohannan Berkowitz, PhD
Rabbi Lewis Brenner
Rabbi Ephraim Bryks
Rabbi Moshe Eisemann
Rabbi Eliezer Eisgrau
Shmuel Juravel
Rabbi Solomon Hafner
Rabbi Yaakov Menken
Rabbi Avrohom Mondrowitz
Rabbi Tovia Singer
Rabbi Ben Zion Sobel
Rabbi Mordecai Tendler
Rabbi Matis Weinberg
posted by Jewish Survivors Of Sexual Violence at Tuesday, August 01, 2006
Gil Student has contacted me and vigorously denies that he is involved with Mr." T" in any way at all, although he was contacted by him.
Gil has posted his own comment; I have not received it as of yet!
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I know Gil personally. I can vouch for him as an honest man.
Tuvya coward,
you have been warned.
You can be sued.
Ours is a litigious society. All you have to do is file a claim. Those without merit are dismissed.
dissed, dismissed, your loyal followers your postings missed. I'm 99.8% sure.
What are the simple folks supposed to do about it take the kids out of every camp?
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Fortunately this is a very simple situation.
Kolko is a child molester. Margulies is protecting him.
The simple obligation of every parent is to do whatever it takes to keep their children away from Kolko and Margulies.
In response to many e-mails:
I have previously retained a former NYPD detective to investigate all allegations of abuse. I have turned over to him all the threatening e-mails and letters of blackmail from obvious haters. He has contacted the police as well as the FBI.
We will get to the bottom of this and the perpetrators will be prosecuted!
Wishing all of Klal Yisroel a tzom tov.
UOJ
uoj is unafraid. He is fearless, resolute. May he suffer no more migraines, only inflict them on those who deserve them.
tuvie threatened to sue. I think he should go help his mommy and tell her how many hours he spent with the rosh yeshiva. She will be very proud of her little boy. His rabbeim ARE very proud of him. They will give him a gold star, a sticker, and complimentary email.
So, the student isn't gil/t. He wants secular Israelis to fast. The navi wanted more. When will fake frum posturing bring about geulah? Either we recognize truth or we're all fools. I'm 99.7% certain.
Gil Student------Sheker ve-chazav! I told Tuvya I would not help him or take a position on this matter. This raises questions about the reliability of your information.
For the record, I only looked at your blog "today" because someone left a comment on my blog about it (which I deleted).
Gil-Give us a break! Did you not rank UOJ as a scandal Blog at the RCA convention "months" ago???
BTW-UOJ was careful to say that "readers" commented via e-mail that you are affiliated with Tuvee. He never said that he affiliated you with Tuvee. How far off was he anyway. You rank his blog as scandal, you are in communication with T, and T is e-mailing the entire blogosphere that YOU are behind his efforts to destroy UOJ!
On behalf of the anonymous family, 97.8%, anonymous apologizes.
our branch of the family did not attack your credentials, the stature of Touro Law School or your photograh. Nevertheless, for the benefit of the other nine reading this blog, we take this opportunity to apologize publicly.
For those with problems with daas toreh, email tuvya.
Gil-Give us a break! Did you not rank UOJ as a scandal Blog at the RCA convention "months" ago???
BTW-UOJ was careful to say that "readers" commented via e-mail that you are affiliated with Tuvee. He never said that he affiliated you with Tuvee. How far off was he anyway. You rank his blog as scandal, you are in communication with T, and T is e-mailing the entire blogosphere that YOU are behind his efforts to destroy UOJ!
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Give Gil a break. He stays away from the whole thing and gets dragged in. Leave him alone.
A PARODY.............
Aug 2,2006
Op-Ed Columnist-New York Slimes
Mel’s Tequila Sunrise-Sunset...
By MAUREEN LOUD
My Jewess-friend always warned me to stay away from non-kosher tequila without the hecsher of the OU and the OK, the KKK, AK, and any Alter Kaker that's got nothing better to do than watch animals walking around after their lungs are ripped out of their bodies in the "shechita" process.
She would have given the same advice to Mel. She loved Mel, and always thought he would have been perfect for the role of Tevya in the" Shaigetz On The Roof." (only one pair of tzitzis)
Mr. Gibson appears to believe that the Jews control everything. It is an ancient anti-Semitic insult. But now that he has gotten into trouble for his bigoted views, he has thrown himself at the mercy of the object of his bigotry.
He said he wants to “meet with leaders in the Jewish community, with whom I can have a one-on-one discussion to discern the appropriate path for healing.” "I want to meet UOJ!" He rambled on and on about the sh.. disturber shaking up the Jewish world.
He added: “I am in the process of understanding where those vicious words came from during that drunken display, the Tequila was not kosher. I am asking the Jewish community, whom I have personally offended, to help me on my journey through recovery.”
Now that the volatile Mr. Gibson has pleaded for guidance from leaders of the American Jewish community, I decided to consult the only one I know. I asked UOJ how he would help Mel heal.
“He has been a very bad goy,’’ UOJ said, but a lot of Jews are worse.
“It is really rich to behold Gibson asking Jews to behave like Christians. Has he forgotten how bellicose and wrathful and unforgiving we are? Why would a people who start all the wars make a peace? Perhaps he’s feeling a little like UOJ, hoping that the Jews don’t do their worst, and preparing himself for more evidence of their disappointing behavior.
“I have always wondered why people who believe that we control the world do not have more respect for us. Take that cop who arrested Gibson. Do you think it was a coincidence that he was a Jew? We have been following Gibson’s every move since he released that movie. The other night, when our uniformed brother spotted him bobbing and weaving in his star car, we saw an opportunity and we took it. Don’t blame us. It’s what Yahweh would do.
“When Officer Mee( meeskeit shortened) busted him, we all busted him.
“Moreover, it is the rabbis' considered view that whereas alcoholism and sex abuse may require a process of recovery or tshuva, anti-Semitism is a more intractable and less chic failing.
This was not a moment of insanity, even if Gibson is insane. His hatred of Jews was plain in his movie and in his twisted defense of it, which was made when he was sober under the influence of his primitive world view. Perhaps he thinks that all he needs to do is spend a few months in AA — Anti-Semites Anonymous — and find some celebrity sponsor and run for absolution to Larry Zeiger, I mean Larry King, where he can say with perfect sincerity that the Holocaust was a terrible thing and "gut yontif."
“But the rabbonim have instructed Larry to be strict with the uncircumcised offender. He did not even have a good old fashioned metziza b'peh.
“We understand that Gibson cannot do it alone like Avraham Avinu did. But why do we have to do it for him without a charge? Does he give tickets away for free to his movies?
We would find it hard to be in a room with him unless, of course, he wants to count some money with us. Why doesn’t he turn to the vast number of our Modern Orthodox brothers and sisters who show no trace of anything resembling his disgusting prejudice?
Then UOJ was just too aggravated to speak. He mumbled something in Yiddish about Margulies employing Kolko at Lake Compounce and hung up.
That parody is one more example of UOJ's megalomania.
The above parody, weak as it may be, does not support your contention. When you have preconceived notions, everything proves you right. Right?
What is discernable is UOJ's interest in all streams of Judaism and that he mumbles in Yiddish.
FYI, I have deleted a bunch of comments by Unorthodox Jew and banned him. I hate to turn anyone away, but he got way out of hand today.
Gil | Homepage | 06.22.05 - 10:32 pm | #
Parody comment said...
That parody is one more example of UOJ's megalomania.
I don't see the example of megalomania. What I do see is your inherent resistance to the fact that UOJ was and is from the only voices of truth to fearlessly confront our sick obsession with covering for molesters and asslicking our gedolim all this while we punish the victims. What a sick generation our "gedolim" have raised.
Mondrowitz lives @ Rechov Diskin 9 Rechavia or Kiryat Wolfson Jerusalem. His Phone # is (when calling from the USA) 011-972-5-660-508
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