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Wednesday, July 08, 2020

The Department of Health told camp operators in a recent letter that many of them had gotten permits to open as "temporary residences," and warned them about the mandates they would have to follow, including a requirement that parents stay overnight with their children. The department didn't respond to questions from the Times Herald-Record about how many camps got those permits. In a statement to the Record last week, officials said the prohibition on overnight camps was based on science and meant to protect children, and vowed to stop any attempts to get around the ban.


Judge denies request to allow opening of Orthodox sleepaway camps in Catskills

Chris McKenna
Times Herald-Record

A federal judge on Monday refused to grant a temporary order allowing Orthodox Jewish sleepaway camps in the Catskills to open in spite of a state ban on overnight children's camps this summer because of coronavirus concerns.

In a 43-page ruling, Chief Judge Glenn Suddaby of the Northern District of New York expressed sympathy for the religious beliefs of the affected families, but said he also "must acknowledge the extenuating circumstances of the COVID-19 virus and its impact throughout the world." 


Camp Redad at 207 Anawana Lake Road on Friday, June 26, 2020.

"Although the State of New York has made progress in limiting the transmission of the virus in recent weeks, the recent resurgence of positive COVID-19 cases in several states raises concerns and is a painful reminder that the fight is far from over," Suddaby wrote.

He also concluded that allowing overnight camps to open would bring children from more densely populated areas and other states to rural areas with low COVID-19 levels and limited hospital beds to handle any surge in virus cases.

The underlying lawsuit challenging the state order is still pending, although it may soon be moot. 

Some overnight camps already have begun operating as day camps? - which were allowed to open in New York last week - by busing campers back and forth each day, apparently from as far away as Brooklyn.

Sullivan County has 169 active children's camps of all types, and Ulster County has 74, according to the state Department of Health. As of last Monday, 37 Sullivan day camps had started up and five more were about to do so. Ulster had four open day camps and was expected to have another two by this week.

The lawsuit against Gov. Andrew Cuomo was brought by the Association of Jewish Camp Operators, which represents 75 Orthodox camps attended by more than 40,000 children each summer, according to the court papers. The plaintiffs argued that the decision announced on June 12 to prohibit overnight camps would block an essential part of the religious upbringing of Orthodox children and violated religious rights. (Hard to believe these guys are not working for the NYC Sanitation dept.) pm

They also cast the state as hypocritical for allowing other activities with equal or worse exposure risks, emphasizing the many street protests that followed the killing of George Floyd by Minneapolis police in late May. (Redefining Shysters Down) pm

In past summers, more than 200,000 kids in all attended roughly 550 overnight camps in New York. The state's.attorneys argued in court papers last week that the prohibition applied to all of those camps, regardless of any religious affiliation, and that the plaintiffs were seeking an exemption from a decision that had sound health reasons.

"That determination was rationally made on the basis that overnight camps involve children and adults sleeping and eating in close proximity in an enclosed space for an extended period of time, greatly increasing the risk of spread of the virus," wrote Chris Liberati-Conant, an assistant attorney general.

He pointed out that during a flu outbreak in 2009, 1,600 campers or staff members in New York are known to have caught the illness, almost all of them at overnight camps.

Attorneys for the camp operators responded that the closure was indeed discriminatory because "only Jewish overnight camps were attempting to operate this summer by the time of Defendant’s announcement." They also accused the state of not respecting the significance of religion-infused camping. (These morons didn't realize even the YMCA Christians thought they are nuts) pm

"Defendant gives no weight whatsoever to this critical religious activity," the attorneys wrote. "Defendant does not value it, and therefore sees no reason to accommodate it."(shame on these idiots) pm

The association had sent Cuomo a letter on May 10 imploring him to allow overnight camps to open and outlining the health precautions it had developed with doctors to avoid coronavirus infections. They argued that overnight camps were "the safest place for campers" and staff because they could be locked down and no one came and went. (The lies keep rolling out of their mouths unashamed like Trump on a good day!) pm

The Department of Health told camp operators in a recent letter that many of them had gotten permits to open as "temporary residences," and warned them about the mandates they would have to follow, including a requirement that parents stay overnight with their children. (Better follow the rules or else!) pm

The department didn't respond to questions from the Times Herald-Record about how many camps got those permits. In a statement to the Record last week, officials said the prohibition on overnight camps was based on science and meant to protect children, and vowed to stop any attempts to get around the ban.  (Science? what's that) pm

"While we understand the disappointment of families and camp operators alike, the Department intends to investigate any attempts to circumvent this directive and will also ensure that camps with valid permits for day camp operations are in compliance with all pandemic guidelines," the statement read.

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https://www.recordonline.com/story/news/local/2020/07/06/federal-judge-refused-temporary-order-let-sleepaway-camps-open/3277488001/


11 comments:

Oh the Hypocrisy! said...

What's this being reported from Los Angeles that the Skverrorist Rebbe is staying by Barry Weiss & mouthing off about yehurag v'al yaavor on alla drei chamuros in Israel?

What about the molester gabboyim destroying kids in his very mansion? And then he finishes off the mishpuches too if they complain.

Philly class of 2015, programmed robot T1625x said...

This calls for a tantz mit chazzonus!

Ivdu ivdu ivdu ivdu es Adoineinu Shmuel Kaminetzky besimcha!

The number of active coronavirus cases in Israel has surged by 500% in one month, from 2,055 cases on June 7 to 12,306 on July 7, Haaretz reported on Tuesday.

Israel’s increase of weekly infections is one of the highest in the world and is lower only than Switzerland, Serbia, Australia and the Czech Republic.

Coronavirus cases have been confirmed throughout Israel in 262 cities, towns and communities.

Los Angeles said...

David Hager's interaction with the Skverrorist Rebbe:

האדמו״ר מסקווירא הרה״צ רבי דוד טוורסקי, ערך אתמול (יום שלישי) ביקור אצל האדמו״ר מסדיגורא ששוהה בלוס אנג’לס. מלבד האדמו״רים ופמליותיהם השתתפו בפגישה אף שני נגידים מגדולי תומכי עולם התורה, ר’ ברי וייס, שאירח את האדמו״רים, וידידו-שכנו ר’ דוד הגר.

בשולי הביקור נרשמה אפיזודה מעניינת כאשר הגר, הידוע כאחד ממייסדי הנח״ל החרדי רח"ל ומגדולי התורמים לו רח"ל, שוחח בחום עם האדמו״ר מסקווירא, הנוקט בשיטת סאטמר בענייני הציונים.

וכאן הבן שואל: האם לאדמו"ר הכל מותר בשביל כסף וכסף ועוד כסף????? "עפרה לפומיה" הרי הנחל החרדי ידוע "כמקום שמד"... וג' עבירות החמורות וכו', שכל הרבנים וכל גדולי עולם יצאו נגד הנחל השמדי הזה!!! המעשה הזה בּוּשָׁה וְחֶרְפָּה של ממש.
דהיינו: בּוּשָׁה וּכְלִמָּה, וּבִּזָּיוֹן, וּגְּנַאי, וּדֵּרָאוֹן, וּחֶרְפָּה, וּכְּלִמָּה, נִכְּלָמוּת, קָלוֹן, וּשֵׁם רָע עליהם

Anonymous said...

This spring, while the rest of Europe imposed sweeping lockdowns, Sweden decided to let coronavirus take its course, opting to let businesses and gatherings continue in the interest of the economy. Now, The New York Times reports, experts are declaring the Swedish experiment a failure: Not only did Sweden suffer many times more deaths than its neighbors, the country’s laissez-faire strategy didn’t even help the economy. “Despite the government’s decision to allow the domestic economy to roll on, Swedish businesses are stuck with the same conditions that produced recession everywhere else. And Swedish people responded to the fear of the virus by limiting their shopping—not enough to prevent elevated deaths, but enough to produce a decline in business activity,” the paper writes. The combination of massive fatalities and economic malaise Sweden has endured lends weight to what many economists and health experts have been saying all along: The choice between the economy and public health is a false one, and the best way to boost the economy is to control the virus.

But the Fressers Whine On over trivialities said...

A federal judge has tossed a lawsuit brought against Governor Cuomo for declaring gun shops non-essential businesses in March. “In the face of a global pandemic, the Court is loath to second guess those policy decisions,” wrote Judge Lawrence Kahn of the Northern District.

Next Frontier of Agudah Fresser Lying said...

Please! Yeshivos are much more crowded than public schools. The Fressers keep playing the Governor for a dope, like when they insisted that overnight camps are safer(!) than day camps

https://www.newsday.com/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-long-island-new-york-1.46523831

Cuomo and some of his top aides said private schools including yeshivas and other religious schools, along with charter schools, would submit reopening plans to the state as well, though they would work closely with local public school districts because they have common issues such as transportation.

Some private schools have argued that they should be evaluated on their own merits since they have far smaller student populations and more space than, say, a large public high school with hundreds or even a few thousands of students housed in a single building.

Partial victory for Frankels shul said...

https://www.routefifty.com/finance/2020/07/ppp-criminal-records-update/166587/

Up until now, small business owners with some types of criminal records have been barred from accessing PPP loans under guidelines set by the federal Small Business Association. That’s all about to change, Route Fifty reports: The SBA has broadened the rules in response to a lawsuit from small business owners.

Avi THE FERD Schick said...

https://www.jewishpress.com/wp-content/uploads/Attorney-Avi-Schick.jpg

I'm very insulted that the Jewish Press is making choyzek of me that I suffered a "resounding defeat" in Court and then go on to highlight every example of how the Judge pulled the rug out from under me!

Philly Yeshiva = Selfish said...

(Not reported is that there are new outbreaks in Lakewood thanks to the Philly lunatics (selfish doesn't even begin to describe them) and chevra who brought the virus from Florida)

Murphy Threatens Pause To Restart As COVID-19 Transmission Rate Spikes Highest In 10 Weeks

The COVID-19 transmission rate across New Jersey is the highest it's been in 10 weeks -- a sign that "we need to do more," Gov. Phil Murphy said at Monday's briefing.

In the last two days, the rate of transmission as been 1.03, meaning that every new case leads to at least one other new one, the governor explained.

"I do not want to have to hit another pause on our restart because a small number of New Jerseyans are being irresponsible and spreading COVID-19 while the rest of us continue to work hard to stop it," said Murphy, the same day youth day camps, in-person summer education and outdoor graduations were set to restart.

"One selfish person can undo the hard work of everyone else."

Heimishe Ferd said...

https://www.imamother.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=395889

Over the past week, I’ve noticed – as have my neighbors and friends – a disturbing pattern of both visitors and residents no longer wearing masks or even social distancing when out in our communities. I live in Fallsburg, a welcome hotspot for summer tourism, but now I fear it and other areas of our County will become hotspots of COVID-19.

Coronavirus may have lessened in our area, but it’s not gone – indeed, people can be carrying the potentially lethal virus without even knowing it, and thus spreading it without even knowing it, especially if they’re coming from an area where there has been a high infection rate. That’s why the Governor of New York, along with the governors of New Jersey and Connecticut, have just mandated a 14-day quarantine for anyone coming into these states from certain hotspot states like Florida and Alabama.

Just because we’ve been successful in keeping our COVID counts low doesn’t mean we have nothing to worry about. We need to keep our masks on whenever we’re outside our homes and cannot social distance – like in a grocery store, along a crowded sidewalk, or at our house of worship.

Not wearing a mask during these times sends the message, intentional or not, that we simply don’t care about the health and welfare of our neighbors. Not only is that disrespectful and discourteous, it can create needless friction with those neighbors, be they here year-round or just for the season. We don’t need more challenges during this already challenging time.

I remain hopeful that we can have a summer of fun and good memories, so long as we treat each other with kindness and respect. This year, that includes wearing a mask and social distancing. Please join me in doing so!

Joe Perrello
District 7 Legislator
Sullivan County Legislature

Kadmonim back UOJ said...

The Shoel Umayshiv mahadura 1, chelek 1, siman 185 writes that in a situation where one has the opportunity to save the public by taking action against a particular individual, there is no need to have the type of proofs that are normally required before punishing a person, as long as the truth of the matter appears to be evident. This applies even to ruining the person’s livelihood and causing him embarrassment. Furthermore, we don’t accept the person’s statements in defense of himself, because we assume that he is merely trying to save his own livelihood. Concern for the community and for their protection takes precedence over any individual, he writes. And he concludes that this is the manner in which we rule the halacha.

There is a similar ruling authored by the Maharashda"m chelek 10, siman 141. And there, he adds the following statement: “Repentance for this individual is very difficult, for who can guarantee that his repentance itself is not deceitful, intended merely in order to restore him to his prior profession?”