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Tuesday, August 26, 2008

Third And Final Hazmana (Summons) To Bais Din Served Today Upon Lipa Margulies And Yudi Kolko

UOJ ARCHIVES - APRIL 6, 2006

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To All Jewish People Of Goodwill Around The World:

The final communications with two of the most evil Jews alive today are over. The UOJ team wanted to follow Jewish law by having our grievances heard in bais din.

Lipa Margulies and Yudi Kolko have not responded.

I do not need to spell out what our next step will be.

This is the beginning of the end of Yeshivah Torah Temimah...my advice to members of the staff and to the parents of the students is to look for another place for yourselves and your children.

Rabbis Schustal and Greenfeld, there is a group of wealthy baalei-batim that are willing to back you in opening up a new yeshiva. Ultimately, you need to consider your own future and the future of hundreds of talmidim that will follow you wherever you go. It will take some time; there will be no more Torah Temimah as it exists today. You are welcome to contact me for more details.

Please watch this blog for the latest developments "after" they happen...I do not intend to give notice to the rishaim prior to the next set of events.

We tried....

UOJ

PROOF THAT THE ASHER YATZER GEDOLIM
ARE JUST THAT:

1-FULL PAGE AD IN THE YATED AGAINST PRE-PACKAGED ROMAINE LETTUCE SIGNED BY 60 MORONS WHO HATE HEINNEMAN.

2-AD IN THE HAMODIA, SIGNED BY THE NURSING HOME BRIGADE, AGAINST "THE MAKING OF A GADOL"(DUMBEST BOOK EVER WRITTEN, BY THE DUMBEST PUTZ EVER BORN-UOJ)

3-PAGE TWO AD IN THE YATED INVITING THE "OILAM" TO SHIMSHI SHERER'S DRASHA ON HOW TO MARRY RICH. SEPARATE ADVICE FOR MEN AND WOMEN.(SPONSORED BY THE MOSHE SHERER "JEWISH GROOMING" FOUNDATION.)

4-FULL PAGE AD IN THE JEWISH PRESS ON THE AGUDAH'S UPCOMING DINNER; ONE OF THE HONOREES BEING WJC'S SWINDLER OF THE YEAR, AND PROUD CHAVRUSA IN LEARNING TORAH WITH CARDINAL LUSTIGER AND OTHER CATHOLIC CHURCH MEMBERS, RABBI DOCTOR ISRAEL(BRONFMAN'S WATER BOY) SINGER!

NOT A WORD ABOUT THE REFUSAL OF GANGSTER MARGULIES AND PEDOPHILE KOLKO'S REFUSAL TO COME TO BAIS DIN:

******* PRICELESS!!! *******

More wisdom from the Asher Yatzer Nursing Home Brigade!

Apr. 23, 2006 10:14 | Updated Apr. 23, 2006 15:10
Rabbis call for Yisrael Valis' release
By JPOST.COM STAFF

Jerusalem District Attorney Eli Abarbanel met with haredi leaders Sunday afternoon to discuss the possibility of releasing Yisrael Valis on bail. Valis was arrested on suspicion of killing his three-month-old son.

Officials in the district attorney's office stressed that they would wait to decide on bail until they received a psychiatric evaluation on Valis.

A previous meeting scheduled to take place between the district attorney and haredi leaders was cancelled following violent haredi protests over Valis' arrest

Earlier Sunday, Jerusalem rabbis Shalom Elyashiv and Haim Kanievski released a halachic decree declaring that Valis was innocent.

One of the rabbis, speaking to Israel Radio, said that the basis for the decree was that Valis' wife was still supporting him, and that if he had indeed killed his son, she would not be at his side still.

Valis is facing manslaughter charges for beating his baby son to death. He allegedly hurled the boy against the wall after the infant started to cry, and is suspected of repeatedly biting, beating, pinching and punching the infant since his birth. Valis reportedly "did not accept him" due to a defect in the child's neck muscles, police said.

Extremist elements in the haredi community had previously threatened to riot and to "make Jerusalem burn" if the alleged killer is not released from custody, even though police said that he has admitted beating his child.

In a previous effort to ease tensions, rabbinical sages and Valis' family issued a statement two weeks ago calling on protesters to refrain from violence and from burning trash on the street.

Jerusalem Municipality spokesman Gidi Schmerling said last Saturday that haredi riots over the last week have caused NIS 140,000 in damage, including the destruction of 30 city garbage bins.
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Anonymous said...

just curious .
How much time (halachiclly) is one required to wait between each hazmana and how much from the third untill one may go to secular routes

Anonymous said...

why should the stakeholders in the yeshiva, the staff, parents and children abdicate and run away. Although it may have been run that way to date, the yeshiva is a not a for profit corporation owned by RM. It is a not for profit NY corporation and a IRC 501(c)(3) organization. As such, it belongs to the klal, not to these individuals.

Anonymous said...

Well, no one can say you didn't give fair warning. The shock waves will be felt by our grandchildrens children, but at least they won't be felt up anymore.

Anonymous said...

Give us a hint

Anonymous said...

To "why should the stakeholders in the yeshiva"
You obviously have not done your homework. All of Torah Temima's properties are deeded to Mr. Leopold Margolis. He hides certain assets in NJ under TT's name for tax reasons. It's to late in the game to be so naive.

Anonymous said...

Under Halacha, only one Hazmana need be served. Margulies and Kolko have ignored three to date.

This is the fourth.

There can be no clearer indication of Kolko Margulies and Torah Temima's refusal to address these serious accusations in accordance with Das Torah.

They can blame no one but themselves for their downfall.

Anonymous said...

Not only is a 501 (c)(3) entity not private property, anyone who treats it as such is subject to some very severe penalties.

Once the s*** hits the fan, Margulies will be answering some very smelly questions to some very determined individuals.

Abraham Fruchthandler said...

Ha ha ha ha !!!!!!

That profit hound Margo listed Torah Temimah as a not-for-profit ?

That's the funniest thing I've heard in ages !

Anonymous said...

What nonsense . Regardless of who is right or wrong here , there has not been any hazmanah sent . a letter from a lawyer does not qualify as a hazmanah . If you really meant it why couldnt you get the Mchon Lhoroyah to send a hazmonoh . Something doesnt smell right here

TZS said...

Why should rabbeim and students run away?

What about the honest people working there and making a living?

ARe we forgetting about them when we say everyone should run away?

What kind of statement is that?

Anonymous said...

Strange silence from the usually talkative Mr. UOJ on the question of why a real hazmono from a beis din was not sent.

Or are the lawyers just preparing their alibi so they'll have an excuse for why they went to a secular court rather than a beis din?

Anonymous said...

Anyone who doubts these are real hazmonos can check with m'chon lehoroyoh.

Anonymous said...

I started looking at this blog a couple of days ago. There are so many posts and so many comments (some deleted) that I find it impossible to fully digest everything that's been said. Having said that I have a few basic comments/questions if anyone can answer them, that would be appreciated.

1) It goes without saying that if Rabbi Kolko (I hope you'll excuse me for calling him Rabbi. I've known him for 20+ years and I like to believe he's still entitled to some benefit of the doubt.) is guilty of any of this, then he has no business being employed in the proximity of children and should have been removed long ago.

2) I'm also aquainted with Eli Greenwald and I know that he is a good guy (not to metion a darn good ballplayer) and I believe that his objectives are sincere.

3)I also agree with Eli that if eveyone who is truly troubled by these allegations wants to maintain the maximum credibility of this blog, it doesn't help to engage in the nasty stuff. Try to keep it grown up.

Ok, my questions.

1) Eli, We've all seen how easy it is t get respected Rabonim to sign their names to anything that seems to be of importance to the frum community. Why have we not seen in writing or heard from in a speech in the name of a single reconized Flatbush Rav any form of acknoledgement or condemnation of this issue. Why has it been left to world of threats, blogs, and anonymous letters dropped in a mailbox in California to deal with this problem. The implication is that not only is Margolis culpable but so is every other Rav who has failed to raise a public outcry. Surely you've approached Rabonim with this haven't you? Are you condeming them all as well?

2) UOJ, Surely you know that bloggers do not enjoy the best of reputations. The blog world has enabled all of us (myself included) to indulge our urge to say all the things we wouldn't have dared to ten years ago and enjoy the knowledge that people might actually read it. It remains somewhat mystifying that if R.K is as guilty as is alledged, that in 30+ years, not a single solitary person, has gone to the civil authorities to level charges. The incident in Camp Mogen Av noted on this blog shows that formal charges were filed instantly in that case. Why has this allegation festered for 35 years? If you all believe that the evidence is so overwhelming why doesn't someone approach the authorities? Frankly, if I was convinced that I was in possesion of sch evidence, I would do so out of the concern that every single day that I stall could put another child in danger.

Help me out here folks. What am I missing?

Anonymous said...

What nonsense . Regardless of who is right or wrong here , there has not been any hazmanah sent . a letter from a lawyer does not qualify as a hazmanah . If you really meant it why couldnt you get the Mchon Lhoroyah to send a hazmonoh . Something doesnt smell right here

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Oy Lanu.

We have an acknowledged and undisputed child molester teaching our children in yeshiva for OVER THIRTY FIVE YEARS while Margulies fights tooth and nail to protect him and intimidate his many victims.

Chacham from the Ma Nishtana weighs in and decides to nit-pick over the letterhead on the Hazmana.

Take your head out of your ass!

If Margulies were a decent, civilized human he would be aggressively cleaning up the mess he has made of the yeshiva. Instead he sits and argues technicalities.

Let’s put this into perspective. Knowing what you know, would you allow your pre-teen son to sit in a room with Kolko?

Do you still think the letterhead on the Hazmana is meaningful?

peratim said...

UOJ - whats next a 4th. hazmanah!!!
Once again you have not delivered on any of your threats.
And as has been previously stated this is a bogus hazmanah - Why can't you go to a beis din and get a real one? BTW the one Rabbi Belsky sent Greenwald is a real hazmanah.

Anonymous said...

To Anon "What nonsense" - if they're completely innocent, why would they be afraid to show up? Show up, proclaim your innocence, and go home.

Yes, I know you can argue that they don't even want to legitimize these charges, but is this any better, i.e. getting slammed on UOJ every day?

Obviously they're guilty, so they're avoiding the inevitable.

Meir Zlotowitz said...

Hey Avrom Fruchthandler! A gutten erev Shabbos! Save some of the laughter for me and your brother Zecharya. We both lived for years across the street from Kolko in his ugly eyesore of a big pink house.

Anonymous said...

To anon (who recently started to look at the blog) who addressed some questions to me, please e-mail me.

EG

Skeptic Turned Believer In UOJ said...

Bottom Line:

After all the name calling of UOJ is over, all the UOJ bashing is done with, he's the only guy in the entire Jewish world that will be responsible for the upheavel that will change Judaism for the better.
Transparency in the organizations, sex registry, accountability, employee screening, will have been done by one guy not on public funds, no secretaries or fund raisers, just one guy in Brooklyn on a computer. Pretty darn amazing.
God bless this Apikorus...I wish all my kids grow up with his zest, passion and love of Judaism.

David Schick said...

Ok guys, this should be a cinch. I've come up with the latest, greatest investment idea. You get a 55% return, contigent on Kolko heading to the slammer and Margo losing his real estate and shirt.

Caring Jew said...

Here are my thoughts

A frum teacher in a frum school in the frumest city in America has
been molesting kids for years and years, with the full knowledge and
implied consent of the school head and other rabbonim. We deserve
everything we have coming.

I am sad as this sounds, I am actually excited to be ashamed of my
frumkiet, because that is the only thing that has a chance of shaking
things up. As has been pointed out here, we nitpick and nitpick and
avoid addressing anything of substance.

I call on everyone who has ever criticized UOJ, to answer one
question. If you knew, with personal knowledge, without any shadow of
a doubt, that there was someone molesting children, what would you do?
What if it were YOUR children? Would you nitpick then? There are only
two possible answers. Either you have no idea what molestation is and
the effects that it has, or you would do whatever it takes to silence
the nitpickers and take action. If it is the first, then you have no
right to be parents. How dare you bring children into a world that you
don't understand. A world you refuse to protect them from. How dare
you.

Frum Jews of the world, I plead with you to take heed. The impending
cascade of negative attention will be our one shot at rescuing
ourselves from the hole we have dug. We have succeeded over the last
50 years in growing and spreading yidishkiet beyond anyone's wildest
dreams. Let's use this fortunate opportunity to take stock of where we
are and what we have become. Let's engage in some serious
self-analysis, instead of blaming the victims and their advocates.
Together, we really can make the requisite changes to keep our
religion beautiful.

I call on all the Rabbis, communal leaders and frum journalists to not
make the mistake of losing sight of the bigger picture. This is NOT
about the world focusing on us. This is about our chance to correct
what is wrong with our system. If we react with unity, with a real
will to make the changes that are so needed, we will be praised, and
once again will be a light unto the nations. If we fail, and call
people anti-semitic for publicizing our problems, then we will have
failed our children and they may never recover.

Pesach has always been a time of reflection. Hopefully, the reflection
that we do this Pesach will get us back on track. Maybe, just maybe,
when we look our sleepy children in the eye by the seder, we can
believe that they will grow up ensconced in the beautiful religion of
our forefathers.
Please keep my email address confidential if you post this.

Anonymous said...

I'm taking bets that a lawsuit against Margulies et al will be filed before the end of the month?

Anyone interested?

Anonymous said...

To mr Oy Lanu

It is very easy to get Mchon Lhoroyha to issue a real Hazmonah for even small things . All that was sad here is hat the fact that Mr Herman did not get them to issue a real Hazmanah makes something here sound fishy and strange .It has no bearing on the innocence or guilt of anyone . It just diminishes the credibility of Mr. Herman's really wanting this to end up in Bais din of Mchon Lhoroha . Al it would have taken is for him to call the Bais Din and have them issue thew Hazmanah . Hos not doing so makes a reasonable person assume that he really doesnt want to go the Bais Din route . Thats all

Jimmy the greek said...

Odds are Margulies is sued and loses everything, anyone betting against this we are offering 100,000 to 1.

Ex-convict from Frankel's shul said...

If David Schick hits big time profit betting on Kolko, he'd better pay back everyone in the shul that took a bath when their illegal investments with him went belly up.

Stupid bettor said...

Okay, I'll take the odds for 1 dollar.

Rabbi Yosef Frankel said...

Ex-convict,

So many of my flock were, are or will be in jail, so when you call yourself ex-convict, you have to be very specific.

And it's a shame that Kolko doesn't daven by us too.

Anonymous said...

Why should rabbeim and students run away?

What about the honest people working there and making a living?

ARe we forgetting about them when we say everyone should run away?

What kind of statement is that?

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Good point.

BUT, if these "honest people working" in Torah Temimah aren't honest enough to stand up to the dishonest thug running the yeshiva, why should anyone be concerned about them?

“Kol Me Sh’Ain Lo Daya, Asur L’rachaim Alav”

Do the employees of Torah Temimah truly believe that this is going away? Do they believe that Margulies is going to be able to cover this up the way he has been doing it for 30 years?

Wake up!

This has gone beyond the point of no return. Everything UOJ has promised has been delivered. In the next two weeks we will see things that are beyond anything we have ever experienced.

Employees of Torah Temimah; now is the time to prepare for the onslaught. Forget your fear of Margulies, he is history. You want to be very far away from the stench that will emanate from his remains.

Parents of Torah Temimah; protect your children and your families reputations from what is about to befall the yeshiva. Get as far away from Torah Temimah as you can.

Forewarned is forearmed.

Anonymous said...

kolko has great kids-feel for them

Anonymous said...

Caring Jew Asked:

If you knew, with personal knowledge, without any shadow of
a doubt, that there was someone molesting children, what would you do?

As I said in my earlier post: I would run to the authorities which would have the immediate effect of his being removed from the vicinty of children and not exposing them to additional danger for even one more day. The fact that this has not happended is what leaves me with a healthy dose of skepticism. Clearly protection his identity has not been anyone's concern.

Anonymous said...

Let us assume arguendo that Mr. Herman doesn’t really want to be in Bais Din. So what? Does this justify Margulies and Kolko refusing to go to Bais Din?

Of course not.

There is nothing on earth stopping Margulies and Kolko from appearing in Bais Din. That is, except their knowledge that if they do appear in Bais Din they will be exposed for all to see.

Vyimtheputzer Rebbe said...

To the person posing as me, Rabbi Yosef Frankel. Why do you insult me, I'm the Vyepoler Rebbe, to use my other name is tantamount as saying YHWH, the shem hamiforash.
Just for that, memership in my house of thieves are going up.

Anonymous said...

UOJ

Actually, for all intents and purposes you didn't even post the one about me complaining. You put it up just before you created this last new post of the third hazmanah. Now nobody even looks at the previous posts anymore.

People, in the faint hope that this post gets hrough, please realize that UOJ is censoring the messages that get posted. Perhaps he needs to weed out vulgar messages (although the ones that are pro UOJ somehow seem to get through anyway). But you should also know that he is not posting messages that might lead you to believe anything other than what he wants you to believe.

Don't fall for it!!!!. You're only getting a one-sided, warped, representation of things.

Boy will I be surprised if this message is posted!

Anonymous said...

kolko has great kids-feel for them

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So do the victims. Feel for them, their children and their grandchildren.

Kolko's children are going through unimaginable pain. There are no words to console them.

However, they will survive. They benefited from the cover up in that they were able to marry well and some were able to move away from this mess.

While no consolation, they should seek some solace in the knowledge that had this happened earlier, the damage would have been much worse.

They need to work hard to convince their father to come clean, publicly apologize to his victims and step away from Margulies as quickly as possible. The victims understand that he is sick and can’t control himself. A public expression from him before the final assault will do much to protect him from what Margulies is about to go through.

There will be no mercy shown Margulies.

Anonymous said...

Mr Warped,

Exactly what is your version?

Share it with us.

Anonymous said...

Does Eli Greenwald play ball in Marine Park?

I'm curious If I know who this dude is.

Big supporter of UOJ's efforts here.

Frankel's shul president said...

A question for his highness the Veyepoler Rebbe, Rashbehag Reb Yosef Frankel. I understand that the special privelege of sitting on mizrach vant usually goes to the lowest of the low, like say a moyser that was thrown out of Muszay-Ropshitz. If Kolko decides to switch shuls, do you think we have room to squeeze one more guy in ?

Vyepoler Asshole Goniff-family of ganovim and drug smugglers said...

As a general rule, one must be a felon, investigated by the IRS or the FBI, or has frozen hundreds of bodies in nursing homes before we would put them on the mizrach vant.
In Kolko's case, he would add new found prominence to our "house of gelt worship." We would welcome him with open "pants."

Federal prosecutor said...

The victims of the Frankel's shul moyser are triple A scums themselves. The long arm of the law finally caught up with this family after decades of smuggling and theft. Here you have a chassdish guy vos shpart a shpodek, that when released from prison, moved all the way out to Leib Pinter's neighborhood and davened by Young Israel. They had made a neder to never step foot in Frankel's shul again after the moyser was thrown out of Rabbi Shulem Rubin's shul and moved to Frankel's. But lo and behold, he eventually moved to Ave J and started davening by Frankel anyway.

You guys are the laughing stock of the U.S. Attorney's office

Anonymous said...

were all of kolkos kids able to get married

Anonymous said...

To Some of the questioners

From: From someone who has spoken to a few people who seem to know their stuff

The laws regulating nonpublic schools in New York are either very weak, or just nonexistent. The nonpublic schools are mostly left to govern themselves, and therein lies the problem.

If Yudi Kolko were a licensed teacher, a victim could file a complaint with the State Education Department, and they would start a case going against his license. But he's not licensed, and nonpublic schools are allowed to use unlicensed teachers. The State has no system for complaining about unlicensed teachers who teach in nonpublic schools.

So the victims are left to go to beis din, and that's why the hazmanos are being sent. But this rogue yeshiva - which is supposed to have a board of directors and officers, by the way - isn't going to beis din.

I guess the next step UOJ is talking about is court, for who knows what. That's the only place to go at this point.

boog said...

Hey david S.

capt. esposito of the 66th wants to pay you a visit.

not an attorney said...

why did you only send the hazmanah to kolko d/b/a/ Torah Temimah, you should have sent it to each officer and board-member?

East 20s said...

As long as you have enough money to fork over tzum ruv, any kind of lowlife can gain Frankels membership. There was another family thrown out of Steinwurzel's for the most unusual of reasons. Their daughter is probably the only bais yaakov maidel in history to have pulled a major white collar fraud. She stole untold amounts from the accountant Jeffrey Zell and his wealthiest clients. Ask Zell and he'll give you an earful about it.

Samuel said...

The board members and directors will be heard from at their depositions.

Sholom Weiss said...

Who would know better about this topic than Sholom Weiss ?

Some comments have mentioned that Leib Pinter did time in Otisville. As far as I know that's not correct. I think he was one of the crooks in Allentown that Rabbi Eli Teitelbaum mailed Torah tapes to. Otisville only has 70 beds and is very difficult to get in to. The place is a minimum security country club, known in law enforcement and criminal circles as "Club Fed". Otisville has pretty much been the exclusive territory of the Frankel's society. You need to be very wealthy and connected to politicians to gain entrance.

If the courts fit Kolko with an orange jumpsuit, he's headed to a sex offender destination. He probably has enough connections to keep him out of Rikers, which is pretty undesirable.

Let's see if UOJ can pull enough strings to pack him off to the infamous Supermax prison in Colorado.

If Margo is exonerated, I hope the judge at least gives him community service, like a mandatory workout every day in Kosher Gym.

boog said...

All is not lost.

margie and koko can always open up a yeshiva in Greece. Greeks appreciate underdogs and like to come from behind.

Anonymous said...

Chacham from the Ma Nishtana weighs in and decides to nit-pick over the letterhead on the Hazmana.

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You've dodged the issue that lots have asked and which has never received an honest reponse.

It's not nitpicking about a letterhead. It's about giving a reputable beis din a chance to do the job. If it were true as you claimed several times that you wanted to give the beis din route a fair chance, there would be a hazmana from M'chon L'horaah. It seems that you want blood - you're way - and that you never had any intention of doing things al pi derech haTorah. Why not give all the people who've asked for it and honest response to the question: If you're legit, why is M'chon L'horaah, as apposed to Jeffrey Herman, not issuing the hazmana?

You can go to town attacking me for not caring about victims, for protecting the accused, and for all the moronic things I wrote. Or you can be a man and answer the question.

Anonymous said...

WHY DONT YOU SIMPLY VERIFY THE LEGITEMACY OF THIS HAZMANA BY SIMPLY CALLING UP MECHON IN MONSEY AND ASK THEM STRAIGHT OUT . IS THIS A HAZMANA OR NOT

another TT parent said...

There is a method to UOJ's madness. In my opinion, UOJ wanted to cover his halachic bases, yet giving Margo the behaima an excuse not to go to beis din.
I called M'chon Lehoraah, the UOJ hazmana is considered a valid hazmana l'din even though it was not on their letterhead.
Margo the rasha fell for it.
See you in court big boy.

gross said...

The type of Hazmana is irrelevant. The bottom line is, Margo/TT had an opportunity to respond to the matter in Beis Din. Did UOJ/plaintiff(s) purposely send the Hazmana in "this less powerful way" so that Margo will be more likely to ignore it? Perhaps, but that's his choice. Again, the fact remains that Margo had ample time to respond and take care of the matter in Beis Din. He was given way too many chances and it's high time UOJ stopped treating him with undeserved "kid gloves."

UOJ has shown too much kindness and at this point I am confident he will bust a move!

Anonymous said...

If you're legit, why is M'chon L'horaah, as apposed to Jeffrey Herman, not issuing the hazmana?
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The short answer is that the Hazmana is valid and that Margulies has absolutely no Halachic basis for ignoring it.

Anonymous said...

Kolko:

Time is almost up. Do everyone a favor and come clean. Scream that you're sorry for all the pain you've caused and that you'll never be around kids again; we'll let you go if you promise to get treatment.

Stay in bed with Margulies and you're going down with him.

Anonymous said...

"Stay in bed with Margulies and you're going down with him"

Anonymous said...

To the Anon who I beleive was trying to repond to my questiuons about why no one had ever gone to the authorities if there is so much evidence. Your response about the weakness of the laws regulating private school teachers would be a reasonable response if the only recourse was through the Board or Ed. THERE IS ALWAYS THE AVENUE OF CRIMINAL CHARGES. THE ALEGGED OFFENSES ARE, I BELIEVE, FELONIES IN NEW YORK STATE. I'm still waiting for someone to answer my question about why anyone who TRULY believes he is in possesion of incontrovertable evidence of such felonies would not have already gone to the POLICE so as not to expose children to this danger for even one more day.

Anonymous said...

"WHY DONT YOU SIMPLY VERIFY THE LEGITEMACY OF THIS HAZMANA BY SIMPLY CALLING UP MECHON IN MONSEY AND ASK THEM STRAIGHT OUT"

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"The short answer is that the Hazmana is valid and that Margulies has absolutely no Halachic basis for ignoring it."

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More short answers that are short on content and avoid the question. I'm not a talmid chacham but I know enough to know that whatever it is that Jeffrey Herman wrote is NOT a bona fide "hazmana" despite the various rantings to the contrary. If Machon L'horaah has issued a hazmana why are you having such a hard time producing it? Did they run out of paper? If you want credibility (vs. license to kill) start by doing things the Jewish way. Produce a bona fide hazmana from a bona fide beis din.

Anonymous said...

Can someone produce Margo's license to kill hundreds of kids????

Anonymous said...

More obfuscation. I still don't know if Rabbi Margolis has killed hundreds of kids or one kid but since you claim to be taking the beis din route, why not have the courtesy to allow the beis din do it's job - the first step of which is issuing a genuine hazmana.

Let me save you the hassle of having to respond. I'll do it for you:

"Courtesy! Do these bleep bleep people deserve courtesy?? These reshaim blah blah blah."

If you've got a genuine hazmana, produce it please. If not, stop insulting everyone's intelligence by making believe you've got one.

Anonymous said...

Can someone produce Margo's license to kill hundreds of kids????

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He may not have a license, but every parent has the perogative to pull their kid from the school.

No one forces anyone to got to the school or patronize it.

Anonymous said...

I'm not a talmid chacham but I know enough to know that whatever it is that Jeffrey Herman wrote is NOT a bona fide "hazmana" despite the various rantings to the contrary.
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As a Non Talmid Chacham who acknowledges his lack of expertise in this area, perhaps you should consult with someone who is an expert.

They will confirm that the Hazmanas are valid and must be responded to.

Anonymous said...

If you've got a genuine hazmana, produce it please. If not, stop insulting everyone's intelligence by making believe you've got one.

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Margulies was sent four genuine Hazmanas. He responded to none.

If he was at all interested in dealing with the accusations against him and Kolko he would have responded.

The responsibility for the hell our community is about to go through falls squarely on his shoulders.

The Opposition said...

Mr. More Obfuscation:

Stop wasting your clients time and money on this Blog. Within days you will have your hands full, save your energy.

Anonymous said...

are you people for real? uoj's people send out a hazmana to bes din, margo and kolko refuse to show up and you are arguing about who sent the paper? shouldn't margo and kolko be running to bes din instead of stonewalling? what am i missing?

Anonymous said...

pulling children from school is not an easy solution and it wont take care of the schools issues either . You must go to the root of the problem and that is to uproot the no-goodnicks that are running these schools.

Anonymous said...

If you've got a genuine hazmana, produce it please. If not, stop insulting everyone's intelligence by making believe you've got one.

------

What makes a hazmana genuine? If you have a dispute with another Jew and he asks you to bring the dispute to a Bais Din, is that not enough?

Margulies has made himself the "Rosh Yeshiva," is this how a "Rosh Yeshiva" behaves? Kolko has been a Rebbe for close to 40 years, is this how a Rebbe is supposed to behave?

It appears that UOJ knows exactly who he is dealing with. Goons and thugs who wear the right clothing and use the right words, but goons and thugs nontheless.

Anonymous said...

It sounds like Margulies may have woken up and realized that his delay game has blown up in his face.

Anonymous said...

To: The Anon who wanted to know about criminal charges

From: Somebody who's been talking to people who seem to know their stuff

Only actual victims can file a complaint with the police - not a mere parent, bystander, blogger, whomever. Most adult sex abuse victims do not file police complaints, and even fewer children do. Intuitively, I think even fewer male Jewish children do. All kinds of social ramifications get worried about.

There is also the statute of limitations to worry about. People who wake up in their 30s and 40s cannot file criminal charges in New York, its too late.

Only recent victims can file criminal charges. Its up to them, and that will take great courage. That's how they got Lanner finally. Of all the children he attacked over 30 years, only 2 girls went criminal, and he got convicted.

Clear Thinker said...

Margulies has also been stalling Rav Shmuel Kaminetzky's efforts to get to the bottom of the accusations against Kolko. Margulies can invoke whatever names of Gedolim, like Rav Elyashev, that he demands should be inserted into this controversy, but it's obviously all a ploy to buy time.

If Eli Greenwald was lying, Kolko would agree to go to zabla. Kolko knows that his gig is up if he appears in any impartial beis din.

Margulies and Kolko are acting as if they have something to hide.

Stop getting sidetracked with Herman's letterhead.

Gotham City said...

how long till someone takes the easy way out of this mess and commits suicide?

The Magid Speaks said...

Margulies has made himself the "Rosh Yeshiva" is exactly the point.

Margo is nothing but a businessman who could use a serious dose of musser. He's an arrogant ferd who speaks condescendingly to you. He has spoken to people as if they are crap, without any consideration for their feelings.

I know you're reading this Margulies. You're at zero hour for doing teshuva. Change your horrendous attitude AND come clean on Kolko or else the chickens will come home to roost. You must have zechusim that you have been given so many opportunities to make amends. Don't squander your last chance to save your empire and to hold off the biggest chillul Hashem in America since Leib Pinter's Bnai Torah scandal. Don't lose it all because of your ego.

Anonymous said...

uoj, gotta hand it to you.

Without you, two t rabbis would still be in place. Instead, you shamed the communities into acting.

TT will never again be the same.

Yet, established institutions don't disappear even if their tax status is challenged. They change leadership, respond to public charges, attempt to regain public trust.

While a minyan isn't permitted and the Aleph Society is in place, the population is growing. There is a place for deserving roshei yeshiva in correctional institutions. Pas b'melach tochal, mayim b'mesura tishteh, al ha-concrete tishan.

Prison and golus are good for the soul.

Yeshiva Oversight said...

Herein lies the problem. If yeshivos were regulated, Kolko and Margo wouldn't have carte blanche to do whatever the hell they want.

http://www.thejournalnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060404/NEWS03/604040379/1019

State orders Ramapo yeshiva preschool closed

By SULAIMAN BEG AND JAMES WALSH
sbeg@lohud.com
THE JOURNAL NEWS

(Original publication: April 4, 2006)

Rabbi Aryeh Zaks disputed the town's findings and said he was "appalled" that the town inspectors asked to see a state license for preschools. Zaks told Klein that religious educational facilities did not require any state licensing.

Time for Kolko to follow suit said...

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/703722.html

Last update - 21:00 07/04/2006

Ultra-Orthodox teacher confesses to sexually assaulting students

By Itim

The remand of an ultra-Orthodox teacher employed at a Tel Aviv Beit Midrash was extended Friday, after he confessed to sexually assaulting his students over a two-year period.

According to suspicions, the teacher, 29, assaulted at least ten children ranging in age from 8 to 12.

The authorities' involvement in the case started a week ago, after the parents of one of the rape victims - a nine-year-old boy - filed a police complaint.

The ensuing investigation revealed a series of sexual abuse cases perpetrated against a number of young victims.

The teacher fled to a yeshiva in Jerusalem, where he remained in hiding for two days until he was arrested Thursday night.

The teacher will be indicted after police officers submits evidence to the prosecution next week.

Anonymous said...

Margulies can invoke whatever names of Gedolim, like Rav Elyashev, that he demands should be inserted into this controversy, but it's obviously all a ploy to buy time.
---------

HaRav Elyashiv has spoken. His Psak is that child molesters must be reported to the American authorities.

End of story.

Anonymous said...

"Only recent victims can file criminal charges. Its up to them, and that will take great courage."

Valid point. Unfortunately, there are recent victims of Kolko and Margulies stepping forward. Kolko and Margulies spent a lifetime believing they are a law unto themselves, UOJ is teaching them otherwise.

I was To Mowed said...

did he flee to rechov yoel near Rechov Shmuel Hanavi?

Anonymous said...

I know you're reading this Margulies. You're at zero hour for doing teshuva. Change your horrendous attitude AND come clean on Kolko or else the chickens will come home to roost.

**********

The chickens are out of the coop. It's too late for Margulies. Kolko, you still have a couple of days to save yourself.

Kolko, come clean. You are sick. Announce your regret. Ask for mechila from your many victims. Most of them are willing to see you survive this as long as you commit to staying away from children and get help.

UOJ has delivered on everything he has promised. Take this seriously, Margulies can't help you anymore. He is finished.

Kolko, this is your last chance. What is about to happen is a thousand fold of the discomfort you will feel by going public. Think about your family. They don’t deserve this. Don't set yourself up for everlasting regret.

Rishus Alert said...

Margo and Pinter keep coming up in the same breath for more reasons than you could ever know. These two proud buggers think they can get away with anything. Pinter's tayva to steal has never been put in check. From the lunch program to the jewelry store "robbery" when his little runt buddy from East 28th St was "kidnapped", to the lastest fraud indictment that spelled the demise of Olympia Mortgage Corp, the man is out of control.

I cannot count the number of times people have told me they feel like giving Margo a kick in "his fat tush" (picture Margo slung over his shtender in the bais midrash). I don't know about the rest of you, but everytime I see Pinter with that smug grin on his face, I'd love to slap him.

Put the kibosh on both of these maniacs.

Un-Orthodox Jew said...

PROOF THAT THE ASHER YATZER GEDOLIM
ARE JUST THAT:

1-FULL PAGE AD IN THE YATED AGAINST PRE-PACKAGED ROMAINE LETTUCE SIGNED BY 60 MORONS WHO HATE HEINNEMAN.

2-AD IN THE HAMODIA, SIGNED BY THE NURSING HOME BRIGADE AGAINST "THE MAKING OF A GODOL"(DUMBEST BOOK EVER WRITTEN-UOJ)

3-PAGE TWO AD IN THE YATED INVITING THE OILAM TO SHIMSHI SHERER'S DRASHA ON HOW TO MARRY RICH.

4-FULL PAGE AD IN THE JEWISH PRESS ON THE AGUDAH'S UPCOMONG DINNER; ONE OF THE HONOREES BEING WJC'S SWINDLER OF THE YEAR, AND PROUD CHAVRUSA IN LEARNING GEMORAH WITH CARDINAL LUSTIGER AND OTHER CATHOLIC CHURCH MEMBERS, RABBI DOCTOR ISRAEL(BRONFMAN'S WATER BOY) SINGER!

NOT A WORD ABOUT THE REFUSAL OF GANGSTER MARGULIES AND PEDOPHILE KOLKO REFUSAL TO COME TO BAIS DIN:
PRICELESS!!!

Anonymous said...

what is rabbi kolko supposed to do to save himself?

Anonymous said...

why is Margulies more finished than Kolko?

Anonymous said...

"pnei hador k'pnei hakelev"

we need a new face.

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Anonymous said...

"what is rabbi kolko supposed to do to save himself? "

Humble himself to his victims. They deserve it.

Abe Biderman said...

I don't know enough to comment about the sex abuse allegations, but I can still tell you Kolko is bad news. I once sat next to him at a Sholom zachor. All he did was yap, stuff his face with chocolates and cut a bunch of smelly farts. At least Margo does that kind of stuff in the privacy of his own home.

Getzel Segal said...

Rav Elyashev poskened against Kolko ? I'll have to fax Bnei Brak about that to find out.

Anonymous said...

I need your help

I am a process server in New York City. I am about to receive papers that I am to serve on Margolis, Kolko, and others. I was told to search this site for help. I understand that Kolko has gone to Israel. Can someone post his childrens address there so that we can serve him.
Thank you.

Albert Reichmann said...

I had no idea all this was going on. The nerve of Margo sending his boys up to shnorr from me.

Anonymous said...

I am writing to share the results of my research into the accusations against Rabbi Kolko and Rabbi Margulies. I assumed I would find that Reb Lipa was telling the truth and that this was just a smear campaign started by some of his competitors. I was surprised to discover that the more I looked the more I found. One lead led me to another. When I tried discussing my information with Reb Lipa he grew agitated, evasive and finally refused to discuss it.

I am convinced that Rabbi Kolko has been behaving improperly with children for at least 40 years. I have spoken to people who told Reb Lipa about this problem over 30 years ago. He reacted then the way he is reacting now.

If the owner of this site is telling the truth about his intentions, we need to speak up and distance us from this behavior before the world sees us as all being together with Reb Lipa. This is not what we stand for as a people. The loss of one yeshiva is a terrible thing to witness. The loss of our ideals is worse. Let the loss of Torah Temimah be the cause of something good for our nation. This has to stop, the pain in the people I have recently spoken to can not be allowed to continue. We are better than this.

doctor dolittle said...

As if you can serve him outside of the US?!
Why not publish the Summons in a newspaper in the US and Israel(public notice) and tack a copy on his door, in addition to mailing it and posting it near his shul and mikveh.

Anonymous said...

Tell R Yaakov Horowitz to prepare another letter. Our children who had their emunah shaken by the boro park riots are really in for something now.

Anonymous said...

Dolittle,

Kolko can be served out of the US.

play ball said...

putting up tzetlach in kolko's immediate neighborhood may not help as he still has supporters believe it or not. a few years ago, someone from frankel's shul was put in chayrem. the signs put up in flatbush kept getting immediately torn down, although the ones in boro park and monsey were left up. the guy's name from frankel's shul by the way is made up of the same letters as shit lipz. one way of possibly getting kolko is a legal device in israel known as tzavaat ikuv. if you have claims against someone the israeli courts can detain someone until he satisfactorly answers the charges

Anonymous said...

Yudi Kolko has 6 children, 5 of whom we know are married.

1. Chana who is married to Ephraim Grosmas
2. Mendel who is married to Tamar Sorotzkin
3. Shlomo who is married to Rivka Rosenblum
4. Raizel who is married to Shmuel Garfunkel
5. Avrohom who is married to Leah Furst

Shlomo & Rivka have a son born in Yerushalayim.

Does anyone know these Kolko children and where they live?

Does anyone know where Yudi Kolko is staying for Pesach?

If he is in Israel, it is important for us to know.

Yehuda Kolko said...

April 09, 2006


Abe Biderman said...
I don't know enough to comment about the sex abuse allegations, but I can still tell you Kolko is bad news. I once sat next to him at a Sholom zachor. All he did was yap, stuff his face with chocolates and cut a bunch of smelly farts. At least Margo does that kind of stuff in the privacy of his own home.


This is not true. I only farted twice!!!!

Anonymous said...

uoj, upset that you aren't in homodia and yated?

Make your identity known.

You'll be on the front page.

Anonymous said...

Yes,
I know all the kolko kids, but no, I won't share the info or correct your mistakes here.

Where are your ethics? What do his kids have to do with this?

And don't go quoting Rav Elyashiv on this issue.

This blog has cursed him out since it was founded.

It is quite strange to fabricate a psak from him and then use it to your advantage, after you've cursed him time and again.

Where is your shame?

Mr fart said...

This blog has reached an all time low. I hope you just shut it down. If you truly belive that kolko is guilty and margo is also guilty then there is no need for this filthy forum where people just air their dirty underware.
Do what you gotta do. Lock kolko up if he is a molestor, but shut the blog down since it's accomplishing nothing.

Take care,

Mr. Fart.

Anonymous said...

shame? Shame?? SHAME???!!!

It is a shame that Kolko has molested hundreds of children. It is a shame that he refuses to take responsibility for his illness. It is a shame that so many lives have been shattered by this sick man.

His family should be ashamed of not persuading him to accept responsibility for the pain he has caused.

Shame.

Anonymous said...

NOT A WORD ABOUT THE REFUSAL OF GANGSTER MARGULIES AND PEDOPHILE KOLKO'S REFUSAL TO COME TO BAIS DIN:
PRICELESS!!!

How sick has the house of Israel become???
Don't you all realize how true all of this is?
Shame on all the Jews that could have prevented these sick people from adding a new definition to the
word Jews....just another bogus religion.

Anonymous said...

I truly don't understand your problem with the Yated or the Jewish Press.

DO you expect newspapers to post every criminal story?
SOrry, but people don't want to read every story and every allegation.

People buy these newspapers for news and for articles. Period.

They want to be updated on the relevant issues to the community.

It is not the responsibility of a newspaper to print the allegations against a teacher, rebbi, proncipal, executive or anyone else.

And - all you big talkers - if you really feel that that is what a newspaper is for, then why don't you create your own newspaper that will print the things you say a Jewish newspaper should print?

If people are so interested in the things you claim they are, then this could be a very worthy and prosperous endeavor!

Why haven't you tried it?

COuld it be because this is a stupid taana?

sHOULD THE yated neeman be printing a story on its front page every time a guy comes to basi din or refuses to come to bais din or refuses to give a get or does any other thing?

boog said...

Hey fartman;

You make a valid fart. Time for UOJ to mmmmm or get off the pot. These hazmanas are worth less than 'Charmin toilet paper.

Speaking of koko: The cynic in me asks: How do you know he hasn't molested his own kids? Remember Nixzmary Brown? Nothing is beyond the realm of possibility. koko is a deep, deep sickola. Who knows what is yet to come out in public.

enduoj@hotmail.com said...

THIS MESSAGE IS TO all those who call Yiddishkeit a bogus religion and to all those who say that the leadership of the frum world is corrupt etc., etc.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE RELIGION, LEAVE IT.

No one needs you. No one wants you. We'll get along just fine - probably better - without you.

It is obvious that the success of the frum world is what bugs you.

If it were some failing movement, with no momentum and no growth, you wouldn't bat an eyelash.

It is the fact that it is succussful, that it is thriving, that drives you crazy.

It makes you nuts that you haven't succeeded in the frum world.

SO LEAVE IT. FIND SATISFACTION ELSEWHERE. NO ONE WILL CARE.

Why are you so busy criticizing the frum world and gedolim?

If you don't like it, move to Hawaii or Hollywood, get a job, and you won't have to lose any additional sleep over what you claim are the inequities of the frum world.

What is it that keeps you people so fascinated with the frum world?
What keeps you going each day with your pathetic diatribes?

Is it guilt? Is it frustration?
It is surely not sincerity. Your method of publicizing your views clearly demonstrates that.

LIKE I SAID, LEAVE OUR COMMUNITY.

Good Riddance.

I'll drive you to the train station or the airport if you need a ride.

enduoj@hotmail.com

gross said...

I've been doing a lot of research lately - talking to average-joe, decent yeshiva people about Kolko, et al. When I say "average-joe" I mean to exclude the "kanoim" and the ones whose heads aren't stuck up some phony "rosh yeshiva's" tuchus.

Most I've spoken with are very much aware of what's going on about this issue and are generally on the side of justice. They know and have known all about Margolis and they admit that he's really a nobody and w/o his ill-gotten money we wouldn't know his name. It is safe to say that his self-propelled downfall won't cause any tears - except for maybe his own.

Decent people have no tolerance for even a hint of sex abuse and most of whom I've spoken with say that Kolko should've been let go years ago when the allegations first surfaced.

One particlar person opined that there isn't a large-scale public outcry right now because of the limits of the current forum that is spreading awareness. Almost everyone has heard about the flyer mailed to thousands, but most will pay "real attention" if the secular media/courts take control. We'll wait and see....

sweetvictory said...

It is ironic:

Most people have tried to uncover the identity of UOJ, while some know who he and his friends are.

However, the greatest thing would be if his identity is never made public.

Why?

Because when this sorry saga is over, UOJ will be dying to let people know that he was the one who orchestrated this "project."

He'll be dying for the respect. He'll pratically be screaming for the recognition.

But there'll be none.

Because he won't reveal himself (unless, of course, others decide to).

Why won't he reveal himself?

Because he knows that damage that will cause to him and his family, whatever is left of it.

Those who have held UOJ up on a pedestal would never be mishadech with him, would never do business with him, and would want to have as little as possible to do with such a person.

Whether you agree with his tactics or not, we know that this is true. People don't like to associate with these types of outcasts, people who who are queer, off the beaten track, and those whose only aim is to defame others.

WHy would anyone be mishadeich with such a guy? For all you know, you'll be his nect victim!

Imagine UOJ's next headline:

"My mechutan is a swindler."
" My son-in-law is a ganev."

UOJ will remain anonymous and there is nothing sweeter than that.


sweetvictory

UOJ, in his cowardness will probably choose not to post this, but at least he'll read this. He knows exactly what I am talking about.

Anonymous said...

End,

You miss the point. Yiddishkeit is not bogus, the way you and Margulies practice it, is.

gross said...

"If you don't like it, move to Hawaii or Hollywood, get a job, and you won't have to lose any additional sleep over what you claim are the inequities of the frum world.

Ummm.....we already HAVE jobs. Perhaps you should heed your own advice. I'd offer a ride too, but you can just as well chap one in front of Shomer Shabbos.

gross said...

Savlanut, Maran HaRav Boog. Rome wasn't built (nor destroyed) in a day...

boog said...

Hey enduoj;

You are a pathetic little piece twerp piece of shit and the perfect example of what's wrong with "frum" Yiddishkeit as practiced today in the holy precincts of Flatbush, B.P., Lakewood, and Monsey. The Jewish Taliban.

You can't even spell. "succussful". Really? You call this spelling? What a Chilul Hashem. It's tinaf like you who leach off hard-working baalabatim like us, blindly following "Dass Toirah" into the abyss. Where are they on this issue of sex offenders working in our Mosdos harming our children? Where is your wrath against the Aguda and Torah Umesorah, your vaunted Gedolei Hatorah
and Dass Torah who look the other way on this serious issue?

You have overdosed on the Kosher Kool-Aid, friend; get yourself into Rehab.

Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Hey Boog,
For Heaven's sake, would you please tell me how you really feel about EndUoj? :)

gross said...

Whew! That was an "earful" Boog. I haven't seen a decent polemic from you in a while. I thought you fell asleep at the wheel!

Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Hey Gross,
Being chairman of the board...it's time for a Boog-like rant outta you:)

gross said...

I'd like to offer on UOJ's behalf, a groisen shkoiyach to "sweet victory" for illustrating UOJ's gadlus in a whole new light. It seems, according to SV, that UOJ is so selfless that for the benefit of klal yisroel at large, he even risks people not wanting to be "mishadeich" with him - what a guy!

gross said...

UOJ:

I'm saving my energy for an impending "real" riot. I can just imagine what you have in store; and the good yidden won't be happy. Poor Margo...

gross said...

Hey Boog,

I think you might be mistaken - Kool-Aid is not really kosher - they use "bug juice" for the coloring.

Anonymous said...

Sweet Victory Kol Peratim,

Let's try to understand the twisted logic of the Torah Temimah crowd.

Margulies is about to be exposed to the world for the monster he is. Kolko is about to be exposed to the world for the child molester he is. Torah Temimah teeters on the brink of destruction.

You in turn celebrate sweet victory because in your twisted mind UOJ won’t be able to do a shidduch with your demented Torah Temimah crowd. Has it occurred to you that after next week many people won’t do a shidduch with anyone associated with Torah Temimah, Margulies, Applegrad (oops, slip) or their chevra?

Sweet victory indeed.

Un-Orthodox Jew said...

R' Gross,
OK you've got until ....next Monday to put up a ripppppp-ranttttttt!!!
Make it a good one please!

gross said...

Does that include Monday ;)

enduoj@hotmail.com said...

"You are a pathetic little piece twerp piece of shit."


Hey boog, I guess that sentence there is a kiddush Hashem, huh?

And that must be intelligence, right?

Well, I am a hardworking baalabos, so don't go making blanket statements.

"It's tinaf like you who leach off hard-working baalabatim like us."

Huh? Please explain how I've leached off of anyone by making my points loud and clear.

I haven't taken a dime from you or anyone else.

I have stated simply that if you have a problem with the Jewish religion, then take a long walk on a short pier.

The frum community will continue to thrive without you, Boog. Fret not.

It is also interesting to note, Boog, that you couldn't refute what I wrote without resorting to profanity and incoherents statements.

You must be a really successful person.

Yes, successful. Are you happy with the spelling?

Apparently, you are so bright and intelligent.

I wouldn't want to misspell a word, G-d forbid, because Mr. Boog might lose his cool.

Boog, you said that I am the "perfect example of what's wrong with "frum" Yiddishkeit as practiced today in the holy precincts of Flatbush, B.P., Lakewood, and Monsey. The Jewish Taliban."

Oh, and are you the shining example of what we want our kids to be?

You must be a sterling role model, huh?

DO you talk around your kids the way you write here?

Keep the earplugs handy.

Like I said before, the frum community - from Right to Left - does not need you.

Good riddance.

The offer to drive you to the train station or airport is still on the table.

Oh, and UOJ?

Your comment: "Hey Boog,
For Heaven's sake, would you please tell me how you really feel about EndUoj? :)"

- Pure brilliance, UOJ. What a genius comment. Your sagacity is just earth shattering.


enduoj@hotmail.com

Un-Orthodox Jew said...

R' Gross,

Only if you must..I have a feeling you'll be ready sometime early Monday:)

Anonymous said...

Anon, you idiot,

It is sweet victory Kol Mevaser.

How stupid can you be

Anonymous said...

Gross, don't you have a meeting Monday morning? :)

Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Is there more than one Enduoj...or is this the same guy just off his drugs before Pesach?

wrigleys kosher gum said...

could somebody please give this endoftheworld theskyisfalling weirdo a basic lesson in html tags? thank you

gross said...

My attention might be engaged. The blog is not the only medium that interests me. I like to read newspapers and especially magazines too..

I suspect "all-encompassing" rant Monday evening will be apropos .

Anonymous said...

UOJ - according to all the conspiracy theorists you know all the commenters by their ip addresses. Does this disprove them?

Anonymous said...

Meshadech with UOJ? The sad truth is that the Torah Temimah crowd values material wealth above all else. As such, they will be clamoring to do a shidduch with UOJ.

Happily, there is no way UOJ would ever sink so low as to do a shidduch with those farkrumte people.

It’s amazing how these sad shadows of men continue to miss what is happening right before their eyes.

AizeHu Chacham, HaRoyeh Es HaNoilad.

Clearly, there are no wise people in Camp Margulies.

"sagacity" hmmmm said...

Word-of-the-day toilet paper, EndUOJ?

gross said...

Well put, Mr. Anonymous.

Anonymous said...

enduoj,

do you guys know how to lose like men? game, set, match: uoj.

it's over.

the fifth question this paysach is; how many students and rabeyim are returning to tt after this year? the tv (television, not the yeshiva name stolen by margo) cameras in front of tt should help answer the question.

boog said...

endouj;

What does your Dass Toirah say regarding the screaming of FIRE!!! in a crowded Bais Medrash? Mutar?

Good; I have your attention. You never answered nor acknowledged my salient question: Where is Dass Toirah and your (our) religion on the serious (Lo Taamod Al Daam Rey'Echa)issue of sexual predators in our Mosdos?

Where is the Agudah? Where is Torah U'Mesorah? Is it easier to find someone
stashed away in the Witness Protection Program? There might be a strong S'Vorah to say Yes, it is.

I will tell you: Dovid Zwiebel is busy writing briefs and sundry polemics to our Government Officials to keep their hands away from regulating in any shape, manner, or form our Mosdos. Our august principals are fully capable in handling complaints of teacher sex molestation. No need to call in the Police or alert the Child Welfare Bureau.

Torah Umersorah? Nowhere to be found with the exception of their Annual Convention where Dass Toirah gets to appear on center Stage, strut their stuff, and their Yeshiva Bochurim
come marching in droves from near and far like lemmings to the sea.

You J'Accuse" me of Nival P'Eh.

BUT!

I ask you; For what these Toirah "leaders" have said, and for what these Toirah "leaders" have not said, and for what these Toirah "leaders" have done to obfuscate, ignore, stonewall, and to twist "Halacha" to protect the predators at the expense of our children and for what these Toirah "leaders" have done and not done to place obstacles and barriers in the path of a Tzaddik like Elliot Pasik, ESQ. is this not the ultimate Nival P'Eh??

IMO, it definitely is. And therefore we graduated and have in our midst such luminaries and "Lights Onto The Nations" as:

Lanner,
Tendler Brothers,
Bryks,
Mondrowitz
Kolko
et al.

And their supporters and protectors who throw roadblocks in the way of implementing Screening and Registry Tools to prevent these sick predators from working in our Mosdos. They all have Blood on their Hands while the unfortunate parents of these Tyreh Yiddeshe neshomos are left with shattered pieces to try to piece together.

Did you ever see the CBC documentary on Daniel Levin? Did you see his shattered parents? I did, and I was physically sick for days afterwards. Did you see and hear the interview with the Congregants and parents of Bryks Kehilla. How they admitted they saw the signs for all those years, yet denied, denied, denied; wearing Shatnes-Free Blinders until it was too late!

Is this your "Religion" enduoj?

Tell me, REALLY, REALLY is it? Be honest with me Pal. Because if it is, then perhaps I should be the one driving you to the airport.

Anonymous said...

Dear Anti Klor JERK or Anon,

If you have a problem with somone that is fine - vent your anger. BUT DONT KILL AN ENTIRE YESHIVA WITH LIES.

Stick with TRUE facts!

FACT: The yeshiva has received registration from over 82% of the current student for the coming year.

FACT: The yeshiva has hired a new principle that was met by many parents & all the Rabbeim. The parents that met him were extremelly impressed.

FACT: Construction on the new buliding has ALREADY resumed.The lot was NEVER sold or put up for sale.

Again, before you start spreading rumors that the school is closing down, check out your facts first.

Sorry to disappoint you - I know how much you wanted this Yeshiva to fail!

We be said...

Un-Orthodox Jew said...
"Is there more than one Enduoj...or is this the same guy just off his drugs before Pesach?"


UOJ -- I know this is confusing, but here goes... "We Be" and "endouj@hotmail.com" used to be the some creep who left boastful, arrongant, and disturbingly pigheaded comments on your blog.

He seemed to support child molesters and seemed intent on "outing" you by posting your name (?) and threatening that he was going after your house, kids, wife, family, et al. This goes back to early February.

All this really really ticked me off. To make a point, I appropriated his name and email address and created "endouj.blogspot.com."

I guess the peasant who created the "We Be/enduoj@hotmail.com" identity got himself a dictionary and is trying to reassert his presence and his backwards way of thinking again. At least he's been working to improve his syntax.

So, in conclusion, same name, no relation. You dig?

Anonymous said...

Hi, I'm the aonymous who previously asked why the people with the "evidence" haven't approached the police to pursue criminal charges. Another anon finally provided me with an intelligent aswer in that you need an actual complaintant to file such charges, not a third party. I guess that makes sense. If anyone could walk into the local precinct and accuse anyone else of being a child molester, then we all be at such risk from anyone we happen to offend. I remain with my other question about why there has been not a single recognized Rav willing to come out with any form of condemnation.

After browsing this blog for the last few days, I find it very depressing. Not only becasue of the misdeeds that there appears to be some evidence are going on at TT, but becasue of how much bitterness there is out there among ourselves.

The sheer volume of venom being spewed about Kolko, Margolis, Rav Belsky, the Agudah, the Rabbonus in general, Major League Baseball, and just about everything else, is truly saddening. I really wonder what makes some of us so bitter. It's not that I'm naive enough to respond to everyone's feelings by saying "Apikorus!. These are Gedolei Yisroel who represent daas torah. Who are you? !!" I know better than that. It's just that by now, we should ALL know better than that. This type of shock and indignation would seem to come from the fact that many of us, never learned to adopt a more mature attitude about our leadership. Yes, of course they're not perfect. Yes, some of them are downright crooked. And some might be pedophiles. Some aren't quite crooks, but worry about parassah for their families (like the rest of us). And sometimnes even these talmidei chachomim will exercise poor judgement as a result.

That makes them human. It doesn't make them: "tinuf" "tucheses" putzes", etc. The key to dealing with this sometimes painful reality is to adjust your expectations. If you still think the way you were taught in third grade that everyone with the title Rabbi is a perfectly molded product of the "Torah Personality", you will be in for disappointment. If however, you come to the realization that it many instances they're not much different then me and you other than having spent a few more years in Kolel, you'll be ok. Does that mean we must disregard all of our leadership? Of course not. It just means we need to have a more self assured attitude about our own frumkeit. If you know that you are lshem Shamayim you don't need to treat our Rabbonim as infallible. Infallibility is a catholic notion, not a jewish one. Spend the time. "Asei Lcha Rav". Find yourself a Rav who you believe is a talmid Chochum and a yirei shamayoim, and don't make that decision lightly, and the go about your business. And if it ever happens that your carefully chosen Rav says something in a Shabbos Drasha that offends your sensibilities, or if he shows a little more Kovod to your neighboor with the big bucks than to you, get over it. That, in and of itself, does not negate all of his Torah. If he does in fact do something really unjustifiable, find a new Rav. There are still many Talmidei Chachomin and yirei shamyaim out there.

The really painful thing is the thouhgt that our children are hearing this kind of stuff from us. Even if our attitude is down the tubes, let's give our kids a fighting chance.

Frankels shul member said...

Kolko might join the shul? The board had better clear that with Mrs Koenig or we will never hear the end of it!

Anonymous said...

Okay guys, it is Monday...I don't get it...whats supposed to happen today?

Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Anon,
The Gerrer Reb said Moshiach was coming today or next Monday..or the next...depending on his mood.

boog said...

anon;

There is much good reason for all of the bitterness. Get your head out of the sand and realize that our "leaders" have failed us, big-time.

It is bad and getting worse.

What are we to say, what bounds does our exasperation have when we see the Agudah honoring the likes of Sruly Singer at their Annual Dinner later this year? Can you imagine the Sheker Shakronus!, the Nivel P'EH of the words that will come forth from Bloom, Gertzulin, and Zwiebel, et al; honoring this tinaf tinofes. Or of the credence and cache advanced to this gonif from the "Rabbinic Leadership" that will grace the dais? A swindler of Holocaust Survivors. Can you descend to any lower depths? If not for some behind the scenes maneuvering by Bronfman to Spitzer, Singer would no doubt be giving his Acceptance speech via closed circuit TV hook-up from Allentown.

How low we have sunk that the Agudah turns a blind eye to our kids being molested, importuning Gov't officials to keep their hands-off, but yet finds the imperative to honor this drek.

The Second Bais Hamikdash, Redux. Everything is for sale. There is no Honor, there is no Shame. A nation of Baiyshonim are being led by huckster$ who clearly let you know that everything has it's price.

Their message to us is clear: Pay or go f--k yourself.

Anonymous said...

Some powerful comments by Boog above.

The Aguda Annual Dinner is coming up soon. There should be a counter-demonstration, fliers, something, anything. This stuff is nauseating. They're defending the right of 8 day old Jewish male babies to get sickened by metzitzah b'peh (look at this month's "Jewish" Observer), and they do nothing to protect children from sex predators. Or worse, they fight legislation making clergy mandated reporters.

Yes, we can ask, where are they, but if we don't hit the streets, where are we? How can we even face our own children?

Anonymous said...

David Schick gave the business ethics workshop at the convention. What else is new ?

Follow the Money said...

How low can they go ? When is Pinter due to be seated at the Agudah dais ? Margo's spot is reportedly on hold because they need two seats to fit his rump.

Check this out on the False Messiah blog

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2006/04/rabbis_and_orth.html#comment-16009195

The Forward doesn't mention this, but a Rabbi Herzl Kranz, interviewed by D.C. area newspapers has taken to publicly defending Abramoff. Kranz admits that Abramoff bankrolled the school he runs.

The background on this shmuck Kranz. He runs a Silver Springs hashgocha that the frummer crowd there doesn't trust. Kranz is a mechutan of super-ganav Rabbi Leib Pinter. Pinter, of Bnei Torah lunch program infamy, who is also known for a suspicious "heist" at a jewelry business he owned, was last seen under indictment this past year again for fraud when federal & state agencies forced the shut down of Olympia Mortgage corp that he ran with his brother Shmelka.

Jews For Morality said...

The group Jews for Morality (click the above link) has protested in the past outside the hotels where the Agudah convention is held. There's nothing stopping anyone else from protesting.

Un-Orthodox Jew said...

The Agudah has become an organization of pimps and prostitutes.

R' Moshe Feinstein and R' Yitzchok Hutner pronounced it assur to "watch" a pope's funeral on TV.

The Agudah denounced YU vehemently for permitting Cardinals in the YU bais medrash.

Sruly the swindler Singer was "at" the Pope's funeral and was responsible for the Chovevei Torah chavrusa program with the Cardinals a few weeks ago.

DOVID ZWEIBEL AND THE PERLOW IDIOT...HAVE YOU LOST IT COMPLETELY????

Avi Shafran said...

We have no problem getting an oversized chair for Margo. The problem is that the rosh yeshiva shlita of Torah Temimah insists on being on the Moetzes. If he gets charged with facilitating sexual abuse, we may have other liabilities that I have to speak to Zweibel and Mordechai Avigdor about.

gross said...

"Jews for Morality" huh?

Are you really concerned with morality or are you on a gay/abortion hunt?

Where do you stand on Mtzitzah B'Peh...Kolko....Torah Temimah...cover-ups.. do you have the balls to stand up for what's right in all aspects and to care about issues that are immediate, or are you just using this forum to for self-promotion?

Tell me I'm wrong Yehudah.

Anonymous said...

Boog,

I hear you. And I agree with alot of what you say. I persponally think that the above the law attitude of cetain "frum" institutions and individuals is the single biggest thing wrong with the klal today.

Here's how I deal with it.You say "our leaders have failded us big time" Who exactly is it that you consider "your leader" Bloom? Zweibel? Gertzelun?.
They ain't my leaders. I'm not a paying member of Agudaas Yisroel. I've never asked any of them a sheilah. I've haven't been mechabeid any of them at a simcha. What exeactly makes them my leaders. Quite honestly, tell me how Agudas isroel, as an organization, really affects me in any way as long as I choose not to let them. (Those much photogtrahed meetings with elected officials are for the most part 5 minute stops on a president's 40 item daily agenda, for which he is prepped with a few canned remarks and forgets about it in about 30 seconds. I personally don't think the Agudah has as much influence as it likes to think.) You don't like their policies? Don't pay membership. You don't like their choice of dinner honorees? Don't go to the dinner. I've never really understood why we all get so heated up about institutional politics, when most of it doesn't affect us at all. There is one aspect that does affect us. Guilt by association. Once the Agudah does things that are distasteful, suddendly, we all are tainted if we do so much as daven at a local Agudah minyan, which isn't fair.

For my purposes, there is still too much chesed being done, too much service being offerred, and too many Torah projects being sponsored for me to get all worked up about the other stuff.

One of the great things about frumkeit in New York is that we have an incredible buyer's market. You don't like the shul 100 feet from your house (or it's Rav), daven at the one 200 feet from your house. The choices are endless. Our brothers in the suburbs and other cities often don't have that choice.

Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Anon responding to Boog,

You lack clarity on this issue.

It's not the Agudah per se that's troubling, it's the so called Gedolei-Moetzes that sets policy hmmm....for Orthodox Judaism. (Everyone except YU of course)

Honoring a person who swindled millions of dollars from Holocaust funds and survivors, a person who is a questionable shomer Torah u'mitzvos, someone who actively goes against the Moetzes' view of daas Torah, a person who spits in the "face" of R' Moshe's psak...should not be honored at Hugh Hefner's birthday party...never mind an organization that sets policy for "Orthodox" Jewry. (Except for the goyim at YU...where R' Elchonon Wasserman felt it was better for his talmidim to be killed than chas v'sholom wind up at YU.

KAPISH???!!!

Anonymous said...

OUJ Give me an example of how the Moetzes has ever "set a policy" that has impacted your lifestyle.

And if they have it's becasue you (or others) after weighing the costs and benefits CHOOSE to keep wearing your black hat rather than a kipa sruga, and CHOOSE to send your kids to Touro (maybe) rather than YU, or CHOOSE to conform to whatever else it is that you find irritating becasue you would rather put up with the irritation than be associated with any of the alternatives.

boog said...

Thanks for the assist, UOJ. Totally agree.

Here's another point. Very unfortunately to the World, the Agudah, Malcolm Hoeline, ADL, Bnai Brith, et al are our "face" and our "voice" unto the nations.

Opportunists and hucksters, one and all.

enduoj@hotmail.com said...

To the fake Webe:

From day one I knew you were a phony.

You couldn't provide clear and cogent responses, so you stole my identity and started a blog that was less intelligent than this one.
No that takes talent.

My issue here is quite clear:

It doesn't have to do with Kolko or anyone else. If someone is proven to have committed a crime, they must be treated accordingly.

My problem is UOJ. He is the guy I am after.
Whether Eli Greenwald is right or wrong, I believe that he is going about his business in a mature way, for the most part.

UOJ hasn't, isn't and will never do so.

I actually take it as a compliment that you copied my name and address. After all, imitation is the finest form of flattery.
It appears that my comments were to powerful that you were left with no alternative but to start a new blog.

The irony is that you couldn't even spell my name correctly.
Your blog was called endouj istead of enduoj.
With such brilliance you must be related to UOJ and his alter-egos, Gross and Boog.

Oh, and isn't it interesting that the responses to my comments included statements including "word of the day toilet paper" and "got himself a dictionary and is trying to reassert his presence and his backwards way of thinking again. At least he's been working to improve his syntax."

I mean these comments are mindbending. Listen, fake Webe, if you don't know what a word means, don't be embarrassed. Ask me.
I'll be glad to tell you as I drive you and Boog to the airport, s that you can finally be saved from this horrible, evil world - the frum world.

enduoj@HOTMAIL.COM

Baruch Lanner said...

Why can't all molesters have a Margo to back them up. It isn't fair !

Avrohom Mondrowitz said...

Hey Baruch. If you were smart, you could've taken off to E.Y.

Just look at Kolko ? Do you think the process servers are going to find him so easy ? He could even be hiding out in South Africa with Grossnas for all we know. Is there an extradition treaty with that country ?

I have to hand it to that old sly fox Margo. Selling his house to YTT is a brilliant move. The yeshiva now has to foot all his legal bills when he fights to keep it.

Let's see if YTT raises tuition to feed Margo's legal fund.

Anonymous said...

To the above anon. who thinks that Aguda does not affect his life. I hate it when people condescend to me, but what else can I say than, you have a lot to learn. Here's just a few items off the top of my head....

Aguda's failures in Europe in the years leading up to the Holocaust, to warn Jews in a clear, unmistakeable voice to run to Israel or America as fast as possible. Many rabbis did not say this, because they thought people would lose their frumkeit.

Agudah's lack of a cheshbon hasnefesh on the Holocaust, which continues to date.

Aguda's too little, too late campaign in America to rescue European Jewry. They did not demonstrate until October 1943 at the White House, and even that was organized by non-Agudists.

Aguda's many, many failures, too many to mention, vis a vis, the establishment and existence of the State of Israel. My favorite, though, is their demanding more expensive, larger gas masks during Gulf War I, to fit their beards, at a cost of several million dollars to the Israel taxpayer. They refused to trim their beards.

Aguda's failure to set up the background check registry system everybody has been talking about on this blog.

Aguda's long running self-made machlokes with all of modern, central orthodoxy. They pick fights, and seek out battles. This adds bitterness and rancor to all of klal Yisroel, and it costs us money, because we now have to fund dueling organizations, the OU, Aguda, Young Israel, etc.

Aguda's failure to fix the high cost of yeshiva education today, the greatest problem we face, because it impacts on intermarriage, birth control, synagogue membership, divorce, shalom bayis, everything.

Aguda's failure to condemn the Boro Park riots. Where are they?

Aguda's failure to rein in the runaway kollel movement, and all the money that it is draining from our yeshiva, day school movement, where it is needed the most.

Aguda's failure to secure decent salaries, health care benefits and insurance for the rabbis and teachers in our yeshivas. Can you believe one guy named Jeff had to personally take out ads in papers to convince yeshivas to pay for a moderate level of life insurance for the rabbis?

Aguda's failure to do anything about the gay convention in Eretz Yisroel. So Jews for Morality had to step in.

Aguda's elite "Conventions", which is becoming a one liner joke, intended only for rich Jews, shutting out the masses of klal Yisroel, who would perhaps like to hear the great rabbis speak, and participate in the issues of the day at some level. And nothing ever gets accomplished at these conventions.

Aguda's failure to show up for pikuach nefesh demonstrations, in Washington DC against terrorism, suicide bombings, and supporting the State of Israel; and in support of Soviet Jewry years ago.

Aguda is killing us, with their elitism, their snobbery, their closed doors, their sloth, their nose way up in the air attitude.

WE NEED NEW LEADERSHIP. WE NEED MORE JEWS INVOLVED IN THE KLAL. WE NEED TO HAVE OUR EYES OPENED.

Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Anon responding to Boog,

I proudly associate myself with the "alternatives," and my black hat is reserved for very special occasions; "after the cholent on Shabbos, where one is not permitted to make a bracha, while I'm reading the Jewish Press, Yated and the Hamodia."

Dov Hikind said...

No one's heard take a public position on this one. I'm afraid Kolko and Margo might gang up against me with Simcha Klor.

boog said...

anon on the Agudah: Brilliantly Said. And true. Any chance Sherman/Zlotowitz will be coming out with an Artscroll edition on "Agudah's Greatest Triumphs"!

Hey Dov, you disgrace. Where the hell are you? Planning another solidarity trip to Gush Katif? or you shacking up with that Gay Broad who is our new President of the NYC City Council? I hear Simcha Felder's got an eye on her.

gross said...

Mr. Well-intentioned Anonymous:

What is most troubling about the Agudah is their attempt at instituting harmful policy in regards to the welfare of the greater community. Metzitzah B'Peh is one example. The Agudah was orifginally cooperating with the reasonable demands of the Health Dept., but succumbed to certain Satmar goyim and issued a public statement that essentially laughed in the face of the entire community. The Agudah knows and believes that MBP is a real sakana but at the risk of losing large sums of donated money, they lied to the world.

Another example is the Agudah's opposition to child protection laws concerning abuse in schools.

My point is, even if one were to refrain from aligning themselves with the organization, the Agudah will still make their way into that person's life, uninvited.

Anonymous said...

Klor defender...


Stick with TRUE facts!

FACT: The yeshiva has received registration from over 82% of the current student for the coming year.

NOT TRUE: Registration forms were received by the parents in the mail on Friday March 31, responses have so far trickled in, as most parents were waiting to see who the new menahel would be. I have it from reliable sources that both Mir and Chaim Berlin combined have received enough applications from Ruach Chaim parents to shut down Ruach Chaim.

FACT: The yeshiva has hired a new principle that was met by many parents & all the Rabbeim. The parents that met him were extremelly impressed.

NOT TRUE: The letter to the parents about the new principal was received on Friday March 7. The letter states that he was met by some of the Rebbeim, NOT ALL, no mention was made about many parents meeting him. I am a parent, and I did not hear about the new menahel until I received this letter. I doubt he is too impressive, he will be a puppet of Klor's. Notice how he had to go to Chicago to find someone that never heard of him. No one from NY would ever work for Klor.

FACT: Construction on the new buliding has ALREADY resumed.The lot was NEVER sold or put up for sale.

NOT TRUE: Call the contractor, as I have. His number is posted by the construction site. He said he will not work if he doesn't get paid, I guess he doesn't feel the same duty as the Rebbeim to work for free.

The yeshiva is falling apart, ask your son what went on today, when everyone went crazy, and a Rebbe was attacked by a wild kid. Ask your son about the fifth grade rebbe, the third one so far this year, who is turning out to be a dismal failure, can't control a class. I find it hard to believe that he has 20 years experience as Klor claims.

boog said...

klor will be laughing al the way to the bank.

He will probably sell his lot on E 29th to the russian mafioso for big bucks. They, in turn, will put up one of their ugly crap construction Condo's that are quickly blighting the entire Flatbush community.

The big machers that fell for his bullshit and gave him big money are now screwed. Imagine these big machers now having to live side by side with Russians, pakistanis, and taliban chevra.

Anonymous said...

Hi, Boog. I'm the anon. Aguda commentator. Thank you for the kind words, and I have to say your comments today were particularly strong and poignant.

There used to be a gag, Name the three shortest books in the world. The old version is kind of dated. The Biography of Italian War Heroes. Jewish Business Ethics. Who's Who in Puerto Rico.

Maybe we can update it. Aguda's Greatest Triumphs.

The ongoing proof of the bankruptcy of the Aguda philosophy are the Israeli elections. Even Agudists don't vote for them. They get far less votes than the number of Aguda type Jews who live in Israel.

Look at all the groups who have broken off from Aguda and/or their Litvish, yeshivish philosophy. The Chassidim in the 1700s. Reform in the 1800s. Zionism. Religious Zionism and modern orthodoxy. Conservative Judaism in the 1900s. Shas in Israel - the Sephardim can't stand them. Even Chabad is a response to Agudaism. The baal teshuvah movement was a response to Agudaism. The Young Israel movement was a response to Agudaism. The American day school movement was a response to Agudaism. The Orthodox Union was a response to Agudaism. YU was a response to Agudaism.

Torah U'Mesorah is not what it used to be. It used to be an activist organization that was the face of the American day school movement. Its been taken over by the arthritic Roshei Yeshivos. Agudah and Torah U'Mesorah are run by the same people. They are both black hat, fur hat entities.

We need a revolution. We need a frum American Herzl. The Agudists and the Torah U'mesorah-niks can't even kick out the child sex molesters in our yeshivas, day schools and camps. How warped is that?

Anonymous said...

Whoops, I forgot Degel HaTorah.

Even the Brisker Rav and Rav Aharon Kotler weren't too keen on Agudah.

Un-Orthodox Jew said...

The Agudah in Israel and the American Agudah are distant cousins in name only.

The Agudah in Israel was always a political organization headed up by the notorious gangster Menachem Porush. The Agudah Bank raised millions of dollars in the 1950's only to be stolen by Porush to build his "Central" hotel...central to his ambition to being a glatt kosher goniff of government and personal money earmarked to the Agudah's network of schools; Chinuch Atzmai.

After criminal investigation, Porush returned a fraction of the stolen money to the Government; tens of millions were never recovered.

An organization that protects it's own thieves...like the Agudah, is doomed to failure, which is exactly what transpired.

The Agudah in the U.S. was a Hatzalah organization run by an ehrliche Yid, Mr. Mike Tress.
He did the best he could; competing with the Joint in those days was no mean feat.

In comes Moshe Sherer, the slick opportunist, and created the illusion to government officials of the Agudah representing all of Orthodox American Judaism.

That worked for a bit; he used politicians to squeeze whatever money he could get out of them for political purposes, under the well known adage "better us than the Shvartzes."

He totally routed that organization to where it is today; nowhere...run by second rate rabbis and yesterday's ideas.

To have Bloom, Gertzulin, Zweibel and Shafran running that organization is tantamount to having Lipa Margulies giving a shiur in Mesilas Yesharim...a big friggin joke!!!!!

Spare us said...

That lame attempt to discredit the Agudath Israel is an insult to our intelligence. I'm not saying they're great, but give us a break. There's something wrong with them because everyone from the Shas Franken to Chabad to even Reform and Conservative broke off ? I'm surprised you don't blame them for Yoshke and the Apostles too. What about the breakup of the Beatles ? Was Paul McCartney's lawsuit some dividend of Moishe Sherer ? Did Sting decide to leave the Police to outmaneuver Bloom, Gertzulin, Zweibel and Shafran ?

Anonymous said...

Thank you for the history lesson, UOJ.

Yes, Tress was a mensch, an erliche Yid, as you say. Today Aguda calls him Elimelech Tress, and I doubt anyone ever called him anything but Mike.

Rabbi Sherer was a complex figure. History will judge him favorably. He worked hard, and achieved results. His derech was that of the European g'dolim, but he didn't have much choice in that. This current Aguda administration is g'shlufin.

Rudy Giuliani said...

If I may, I'd like to connect some of the dots here. There are vague references that keep popping up that link Simcha Klor to Dov Hikind. I know that Klor was subpoenaed when Hikind was under investigation. Klor flew to Israel to ask Rav Elyashev if he's allowed to masser. Personally, I'm skeptical that Rav Elyashev said, as Klor claimed that he's allowed to masser under subpoena. Hikind's brother who lives by Ave S stopped davening by Klor at that point. Klor's behavior seems eerily similar to Margo who recently told Rav Shmuel Kaminetzky that he would ask Rav Elyashev how to proceed with regard to Kolko. You can say that that was basically the last that anyone heard from Margo, and there's no indication that he kept his word and made the long distance call to Israel.

As far as the "gay broad", namely NYC Council President Christine Quinn. I don't know that Hikind would have any connection to her at the State level, but it is true that Simcha Felder is lowering his supposed standards to cut deals with the lesbo. I have also heard allegations that Rabbi Gershon Tennenbaum was heavily involved behind the scenes to promote her bid for top spot in Council. Tennenbaum is the indicted felon at the Jewish Press who is also part of the mafia at Agudas Harabbonim that skirt-chaser Mordy Tendler is using to intimidate his critics.

ENDUOJ-Rachmana Litzlan! said...

Look Who Just Woke up...
enduoj@hotmail.com said...
To the fake Webe:

From day one I knew you were a phony.

You mean someone was pretending to be you AND you knew. You must be pretty smart.

You couldn't provide clear and cogent responses, so you stole my identity and started a blog that was less intelligent than this one.

No. your identity was stolen because your comments and mindset is nauseating.

No that takes talent.

I'll take that as a compliment.

My issue here is quite clear:

It doesn't have to do with Kolko or anyone else. If someone is proven to have committed a crime, they must be treated accordingly.

My problem is UOJ. He is the guy I am after.
Whether Eli Greenwald is right or wrong, I believe that he is going about his business in a mature way, for the most part.

UOJ hasn't, isn't and will never do so.

So you threaten a person with violence and his children with public ridicule. I see the connection.

I actually take it as a compliment that you copied my name and address. After all, imitation is the finest form of flattery.

If you knew how to read, Im not sure if you'd be so complimented.

It appears that my comments were to powerful that you were left with no alternative but to start a new blog.

No. actually you're so repulsive i was left with no alternative but to feel physically ill that anyone could possibly want to defend the vile atrocities of certain "mechanchim."

The irony is that you couldn't even spell my name correctly.

I don't think you'd know what irony was if it drove over your foot.

Your blog was called endouj istead of enduoj.
With such brilliance you must be related to UOJ and his alter-egos, Gross and Boog.

Oh, and isn't it interesting that the responses to my comments included statements including "word of the day toilet paper" and "got himself a dictionary and is trying to reassert his presence and his backwards way of thinking again. At least he's been working to improve his syntax."

I mean these comments are mindbending. Listen, fake Webe, if you don't know what a word means, don't be embarrassed. Ask me.

If it makes you feel good to say this, then knock yourself out.

I'll be glad to tell you as I drive you and Boog to the airport, s that you can finally be saved from this horrible, evil world - the frum world.

I'm sure that makes sense to someone, somewhere.

enduoj@HOTMAIL.COM

Feel free to write, anytime.

Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Analysis: Keeping it all under wraps
By ANSHEL PFEFFER
Jerusalem Post
April 11, 2006
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1143498836250&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Yisrael Valis had just finished saying kaddish over the body of his
three-month-old son before the funeral Monday evening in Jerusalem when
his wife cried out to him, "You didn't do anything, I know that. And you
didn't do anything to me. They can connect me to a lie-detector, it's
the truth."

Since Valis himself admitted to police investigators that he had
brutalized his baby son and battered his wife on several occasions, the
protestations of his innocence would seem to be the symptomatic denial of a
victim of severe domestic violence, eager like other women in her
situation to take the blame upon herself. But in this case, the denial isn't
only the bereaved mother's; it's the denial of an entire community.

Perhaps the most tragic detail of Yitzhak Shmuel's death is the fact
that, if his condition hadn't been so critical that his father had to
call for an ambulance when the infant lost consciousness, the alleged
abuse would have continued, perhaps for many years, without police or
social services ever having an inkling of what was going on.

The Eda Haredit sect of the haredi community in Jerusalem are fanatical
about having no contact with the heretical Zionist state; they don't
even accept handouts from the state budget. It goes without saying that
any wrongdoing of any kind is swept out of sight and dealt with within
the circle.

In this case it was the health authorities who notified the police that
there was a suspected case of parental violence, but Valis's speedy
acceptance of blame didn't prevent his family and other members of the
Eda, including Rabbi Yitzhak Weiss, head of its Rabbinical Court, from
closing ranks and claiming that the charges were a "blood libel" aimed at
besmirching the entire community. The threats of "setting Jerusalem
ablaze" if Valis is not released is a stark reminder of the hundreds and
perhaps thousands of cases of domestic violence and sexual molestation
going on behind closed doors that will never be reported or treated
professionally.

Granted, the Eda Haredit is a more isolated sect in the haredi world
and other haredi communities are admitting, at least privately, that they
have a problem with domestic violence and have begun opening up to
professional help - but, even there, it is a slow and often reluctant
process. The tendency to "close things up inside" is still very strong and,
when it can be done without involving the police or other authorities,
that will always be the preferred method.

A representative of one of the most powerful hassidic leaders in the
country is currently negotiating a deal with the family of one of the
hassidim, who sexually molested at least two of the pupils in a school
belonging to the hassidic sect. The deal is expected to include a promise
not to go to the police.

Another representative of the same leader was a member of the UTJ
negotiating team that yesterday demanded at the coalition talks that, in the
next state budget, all money going to fund haredi education be put
aboveboard as an official part of the budget. Perhaps if haredi leaders put
more effort into bringing to light their communities' hidden problems
than they do in publishing their financial demands, they might go some
way in preventing the next death.

Anonymous said...

uoj is our frum herzl.

Elliot Spitzer said...

In case anyone missed it. Here is a detailed article on the latest fraud by Leib and Shmelka Pinter and the story of how Olympia Mortgage on Ave J was a Ponzi scheme. They still walk the streets of Flatbush like two proud bastards.

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:FQISmz9ANm4J:jpmc.lonebuffalo.com/story.cfm%3Fstory_id%3D936244+%22lieb+pinter%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=8

Fannie Accuses a Servicer Of Pocketing Prepayments
American Banker 01/11/2005
Author: Jody Shenn

holier than thou - yes, even you said...

so what, everyone knows the jpost is full of anti-semites.

boog said...

enduoj;

You're clueless and hopeless. You still have not and no doubt never will address my posting above nor the entire issue of sex predation by our authority figures in our Mosdos brought to the publics attention by UOJ.

BTW; what's with you and airports? How long have you had this problem?

Anonymous said...

UOJ, I looked into Mr. Herman, Mr. Mermelstein, and Mr. Horowitz. You got the heavy hitters.

Anonymous said...

u is a heavy hitter.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Anon "Aguda Comentator". I'm the anon whose assertion that Aguda doesn't have to affect me if I don't want it to promted your littany of Agudah Failures (a list which ranged from the unecessarily high body count during the Holocaust to pointless factional squabling). (By the way, I agree with the charge of pointless factional squabling.) At first I didn't quite understand why you attributed all of these crimes of ommision to Agudah as ooposed to anyone else. By your logic everione other than Herzl and his followers was guilty of the big one. However your second post helped me understand where you're coming from. Once you categorized every movement from Chassidim in the 1700s to punk rock in 1980s as being a rejection of Agudaism (Agudah was formed in 1912) I realized you weren't condemming the organization per se, you're simply condeming what we loosely call right wing yeshivishe thinking in general- with right wing yeshivishe being defined as what's left after you subtract chasidim, reform, conservative, religious zionists, chabad, and punk rockers.

Fair enough. You don't agree with the right wing. Many people don't. Many people do. Most people are a more complex mixture. I still don't agree with your assertion that all of those "evils" are somehow the fault of the guys at 42 william street. And I still don't think they have much impact on my life. But at least I understand the method to your madness.

Anonymous said...

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/704502.html

sounds like another margo group.

Anonymous said...

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1143498831949&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Another *Katan* Batorah.

Anonymous said...

What a disgrace to all of the people brutally murdered in real blood-libels to have it envoked for a man who admited to beating his own child!!

And to all those Rabbis:

Shame on you!! How dare you support and demand the release of this man!!!

Hashem Yeracheim

Kalman Finkel said...

It's one thing if tons of money disappears under your watch at the NYC Housing Authority, but someone should tell Kolko and Margo that touching little yingelach is a big no no !

Un-Orthodox Jew said...

The above Anon Agudah defender,

This is NOT about the "guys" at 42 William St., this is about the corruption and self-serving behavior of the purported "authentic" wing of Judaism that they claim to represent.

Anonymous said...

UOJ,

a) I'd hardly categorize what I've said about Agudah as a "defense"

b) How silly of me to have forgotton that the right wing has a monopoly on corrupt self-serving behavior

Bob Grant said...

Torah Temimah is wall to wall Bob Grant country, but I always knew that Margo is a fake, phoney, fraud.

Anonymous said...

To UOJ and Eli Greenwald,

I see how well your petition worked.I am very impressed that you guys know what you are doing.

Its unbelievable the lies and nonfacts which have been posted on this blog.This is just the proof of what your communities are about.Not knowing facts and just talking for the sake of talking and ultimately embaressing yourselves in the end.

Your trustfullness goes down everytime you knock one of these Rabbis.UOJ-You seem to have a vendeta against all Rabbis.It is a very immature way of thinking when you knock everyone all at once.I love the people on your site who seem to have all their facts straight and then another poster goes on to uproot their seemingly factual evidence.

The Hazmanas that Mr.Herman sent are bogus.An Hazmana only comes from a Beis Din.Most of the people posting on your site have nothing better to do and love to be gossip mongers.Why do all you people live in the neighborhood you loath-that has this problem or that problem?and this or that person is horrible and has done horrible things and you dont like this or that or this shul or that shul??
What the hell is the difference?You are not forced to stay anywhere.You know why?Because noone has the balls to really do anything except to whine.Leave the community-I found too many faults in it so I left.I do not see that happening here.

You know why? Because you still have to get your girls the best boys in Lakewood.You still have to outdo your neighbors.You still have to make believe all is well with this community.God forbid anything is wrong w/ your family or your kids are doing drugs.That would be the end of the world and instead of helping them out your just brush it all under the probervial rug.

You will tell me the only one that is doing anything to stop this is you,UOJ,You are going about it in a roundabout way.Rabbi Kolko is still teaching so where is your credibility??

Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Agudah Defender,

One more try....The Agudah's corruption is IN THE NAME OF AUTHENTIC JUDAISM!!!

yitzy said...

is kolko still teaching ? how to the parents of kids in his class let there kids go to school?

I don't understand?

Chaim Shaulson said...

It's a status symbol to send your kid to YTT. (Don't ask me why) Most of the crooks mentioned on UOJ blog have or have had a kid there.

Anonymous said...

To the Anon. who still thinks Aguda doesn't affect him despite all of the facts and argument to the contrary -

I never mentioned "punk rock", and didn't blame Aguda for it.

Yes, I know Aguda was founded in the early 20th century. I also faulted the Litvish, yeshivish brand of Judaism, and that's why I mentioned the historic examples of Chassidus and Reform as breakaway movements. Jews then ran away from pilpulistic, cold, mechanical Judaism, and petty, inconsequential machlokes (recall the sinas chinam that brought down the beis hamikdash), just as some of our yeshiva-educated children are running away today.

Aguda is located at 42 Broadway, having moved from 84 William Street several years ago.

Sir, I know people who have worked very hard at working with the current Aguda. They are just impossible to deal with. They do not return calls, they are not helpful, they send you elsewhere, they are cold, they are secretive, they are snobs, and they accomplish very, very little. Many, many people in the right wing, yeshivish world are critical of Aguda. Ask around, and you'll probably hear many sighs of exasperation.

Aguda doesn't affect you? Aguda and all of the other organizations are the Jewish governments in waiting. They affect us in what they do, and don't do. That's like saying Congress doesn't affect you. Open your eyes, buddy.

Anonymous said...

To all the above comments:

My point exactly.Rabbi Kolko is still teaching there as well as alot of people commenting on this blog as well as the people UOJ rags on.

Question-Are there any people posting/spewing against Rabbi Kolko still have kids in YTT?Dont answer all at once.If you are uncomfortable w/ the school and Rabbis Kolko and Margolis what kind of audacity do you have to still send your kids there??!!

Anonymous said...

Hey, guys, here's what Aguda is all about. The great question of the day for Aguda is: Did Avraham Avinu perform metzitzah b'peh on himself? No, you can't make this up. The question is presented in the April 2006 Jewish Observer, in the article entitled, "The Metzitza B'Peh Controversy - A Call to Reason - Focusing the Debate", written by Rabbi Yisroel Reisman, a maggid shiur at Yeshiva Torah Vodaath, and Rav of Agudath Israel of Madison. Here is the excerpt, from page 23 (footnotes omitted):

"By the same token, misleading statements supporting metzitza b'peh fail to bring respect to the cause. The hysterical assertion that 'Avraham Avinu certainly did metzitza b'peh' would be questioned by any student who recalls the Gemara that Avraham Avinu was not even commanded to perform peri'a (the previous step in a mila)! One might contend that Avraham Avinu MAY have performed metzitza b'peh voluntarily (given that Avraham served as his own mohel), but to state so with certainty is misleading and dishonest." (emphasis in text)

There it is. Did Avraham Avinu perform metzitzah b'peh on himself. He may have. He may not have. Let's talk about it. What? You want to talk about corruption at Yeshiva Torah Temimah? Did you say there's a pedophile working there as a 1st grade rebbe? The yeshiva refuses to answer calls to beis din? The entire organized orthodox Jewish world is powerless to force this yeshiva to answer calls to beis din? The Jewish people are demanding justice you say? No, please, sir, put your hand down, the issue of the day is whether the first Jew who ever lived did metzitzah b'peh on himself.

Comments anybody?

enduoj@hotmail.com said...

To all the wonderful individuals who hate me:

I understand that you are living frustrated lives.
I understand that you haven't accomplished anything in your years on earth.
I understand that you hate the leadership of the frum community because you never made it.

You hate the establishment because you have failed to succeed in the current system.

You don't have to be a genius to come to this conclusion.

Your method of seeking fulfillment is by demonizing the establshment from communal leaders, to gedolim, to roshei yeshivos, to baalebatim, to regular hardworking individuals, to anyone who you deem as worthy of your brilliant criticism.

And we should take you guys seriously?

What a joke!

You guys, from UOJ right down the line, are the laughingstock of the community.

The only question is what vulgarity you will use next.

Otherwise, your modus operandi and your motive for your actions are crystal clear.

Keep up the great work.

enduoj@hotmail.com

TT parent said...

Aguda doesn't affect you? Aguda and all of the other organizations are the Jewish governments in waiting. They affect us in what they do, and don't do. That's like saying Congress doesn't affect you. Open your eyes, buddy.
=========================
There is a very simple solution to this problem.
The aguda gets millions for the governent.
If the government hears enough complaints about them not doing anything to help the KLAL , they will set up a covert investigation and im sure it wont be difficult to finding them to be full of sh...
once they have enough evidence they will freeze thier assets .
I know i made this sound simple but it is not that difficult to accomplish. The secret here is to have a pettition going or some other complaint online to the government stating all the complaints. If there are no complaints they will continue running thier show for another 50 years.
Send in your complaints or set up a petition on line.

Mayor Ed Koch said...

I don't care what Giuliani and Bloomberg say. I'm the Mayor I tell you!

Listen to the voice of reason. Kolko and Margo have got to go.

Senator Charles Schumer said...

Hey Eddie boy, you stay out of this. This is strictly a Chuckie Schumer show.

Get me a bunch of cameras to mouth off in front of and I'll say anything you want to condemn Kolko and Margo.

Nothing like free publicity.

Anonymous said...

UOJ:You are a fuck-up beyond words.

Anonymous said...

I'm the Aguda commentator, and I still have more to say. The picture would not be complete without mentioning the many good things that Aguda does:

Project COPE, in which young frum people learn computer, accounting, bookkeeping, and other job skills; Project YES, Aguda's mentoring service for at risk teens; Aguda's founding of JEP, the kiruv outreach project for nonorthodox children; Aguda's job placement services;
Aguda's services for the elderly, providing meals, companionship, programs; The Jewish Observer, a magazine which prints commentary, and yes at times it is frustrating to read, but its there, in English, discussing the issues; Dos Yiddeshe Vort, a journal for yiddish speaking Jews, also important; Preservation of Jewish cemeteries in Europe; The Orthodox Jewish Archives, where the many lies about us in the world can be refuted; Aguda's many years under Rabbi Sherer trying very hard to get money for yeshivas, and sometimes getting it; Aguda filing legal briefs in the US Supreme Court, in cases involving abortion, gay rights, etc. Aguda's many charitable works, Maos Chittim, etc. Aguda's Day Yomi program.

Rabbi Sherer was a good, decent man. Many of his critics were and are nitpickers. Rabbi Sherer worked very hard on behalf of the klal.

But the issues today are different. More and different things need to be done. This current Aguda administration....

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I'm the Aguda commentator, and I still have more to say. The picture would not be complete without mentioning the many good things that Aguda does:

Project COPE, in which young frum people learn computer, accounting, bookkeeping, and other job skills;
**IF AGUDA CLOSES DOWN COPE IS NOT LEAVING.
PLENTY ORGS WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE OVER. BESIDES THERE ARE PLENTY SCHOOLS WITH OUT COPE BEING AROUND,
AGUDA PLACEMENT OFFICE IS WORTH CRAP .
TAKE A LOOK, THEY GOT THEMSELVES IN TROUBLE IN THEIR SATTELITE OFFICE IN LAKEWOOD.
THE AGUDA LOCAL OFFICE ALSO KNOWN AS PCS HAS ITS ASSETS FROZEN BY THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT.**
Project YES, Aguda's mentoring service for at risk teens;
**PROJECT YES IN RUN BY HOROWITZ.
IF AGUDA FALLS APART IM SURE HE WILL GET THIS ORG PRIVATELY FUNDED I HAVE NO DOUBT IN THIS.**

Aguda's founding of JEP, the kiruv outreach project for nonorthodox children;
**IF AGUDA DISSAPPEARS OORAH AKA *CLOWN KIRUV.ORG*
WILL MERGE WITH JEP.**


Aguda's job placement services;
** WHAT JOB PLACEMENT > ASK ANYONE WHO HAS GONE THERE THERE FOR AN INTERVIEW.
ITS ALL A FARCE.
ActuALLY THEY PLACE MORE GOYIM THEN YIDDEN**
Aguda's services for the elderly, providing meals, companionship, programs;
NO GREAT LOSE IF AGUDA STOPS THIS PROGRAM . PLENTY OTHERS WOULD BE MORE THEN HAPPY TO TAKE OVER.CERTAINLY NOT A REASON TO KEEP AGUDA RUNNING.
The Jewish Observer, a magazine which prints commentary, and yes at times it is frustrating to read, but its there, in English, discussing the issues; Dos Yiddeshe Vort, a journal for yiddish speaking Jews, also important; Preservation of Jewish cemeteries in Europe;
**THOSE MAGAZINES ARE ALL BIASED ITS ALL B.S. EVEN ASK ZWEIBEL < HE WILL SURLY AGREE.
AND THE CEMETeRIES?
THE ISRAELI CHEVRA KASDISHA DO WAY MORE IN EUROPE THEN AGUDA , STILL NOT A GOOD REASON TO HAVE AGUDA**

The Orthodox Jewish Archives, where the many lies about us in the world can be refuted; Aguda's many years under Rabbi Sherer trying very hard to get money for yeshivas, and sometimes getting it; Aguda filing legal briefs in the US Supreme Court, in cases involving abortion, gay rights, etc. Aguda's many charitable works, Maos Chittim, etc. Aguda's Day Yomi program.

mark gordon said...

I'm just an observer passing through this site but I'm amazed to the point of commenting at the audacity of the people who post here. The fight against this kolko person aside (and thus far, from scanning the information, I'm not convinced by a bunch of sleazy ambulance chasers retained by an anonymous neer do well constitutes a case, but since children are at stake, who knows? Maybe you should shoot first and ask questions later), I come across this comment from some retard named "boog" who can't even hide a cowardly face behind a normal alias, where he accuses the WJC's hero and victim of a smear campaign from another neer do well (who at least had the courage to use his real name, it must be said) - Israel Singer - of stealing money from holocaust survivors. And lest I should think that the host of this site can't be responsible for what people here post, the "Unorthodox Jew" also seconds this accusation. So tell me, boog and Mr. Jew, where did you get this idea from? As a long time follower of jewish organizations, I read the papers very carefully about the WJC issue, and didn't see a word in either them or the attorney general's report about claims conference monies. All of the press, positive and negative both, were very clear that this was an issue of financial mismanagement. That is a far cry from outright theft. And the money in question here was organizational of the WJC. So how the leap to holocaust blood money? I'm not sure. I think it might be invented in the fevered imagination of idiots like these two. I think it might be rooted in the very nature of people like this boog character and his bellyaching idol unorthodox - a nature that's clearly illiterate for starters (after all, go back and read the negative press, let alone the positive articles and find examples of the shit these guys are throwing anywhere), but also one that needs, at all costs, to find someone to complain about whether or not that person has done anything wrong. So we have molesters behind every desk, theives behind every organization, and corruption under every rabbi's coat - all because these individuals are too lazy to do anything but fingerpoint. I am not an orthodox jew (after reading the shit that's been written by them here, thank god for that!), but I have serious trouble believing that the situation is as dire as you people make it out to be. Every rabbi corrupt? Every organization in cahoots with the bad guys? Everyone BUT YOU is bad?
My limited medical training in psychiatry tells me that such black and white splitting of the world is indicative of significant personality disorders. I think the people here need psychological help, since they clearly have unresolved issues and conflicts and guilt about their own actions (or lack thereof) in the world.

But I digress. Get back to the point: Boog, unorthodox - you have smeared a man who's a hero (and probably not just one, I'm willing to bet). I dont beleive in hell, but as the whining that's coming from page six's jared stern this week shows, there's a karma that eventually trips up people who make their living ruining other people for sport.
My wish is that the thousands of holocaust survivors like my parents who ahve benefited from a true public servant like singer, who's quite frankly guilty of little else than using an antiquated form of bookkeeping, will arise and point their fingers at you as scoundrels of the first order.

I'll be the first (though I'm not a survivor) SHAME ON YOU.

Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Mark Gordon, you're a liar....

"I'm an observer just passing through this sight"......


You're full of it; you have been chasing me around on other sites everytime I commented about Singer. This is months ago. I put up your post just for the hell of it...because you're probably Singer or his emmisary.

Mr. Singer/Gordon...you're a thief...you ran off with millions and your boss made a deal with Spitzer. You attempted to become an executor of an estate of a dying Holocaust victim without his family's consent.

Antiquated bookeeping my ass...you're a GOD DAMN THIEF....GET THE HELL OFF MY SITE AND GO ON TO THE AGUDAH'S DAIS...WHERE YOU AND YOUR ILK BELONG!!

boog said...

mark gordon;

Your candid admission to limited medical training in psychiatry places your entire posting in proper context for me.

I believe your use of the term "financial mismanagement" was also used by Ken Lay, Bernie Ebbers, et al. of Enron and WorldCom fame.

Ask Sruly about that secret Swiss Bank Account and where those funds came from.

Of all the insults you hurled at me I am most offended by your comparison of me to Jared Stern, for the following reasons:

1. I don't get paid to post here.
2. I don't threathen anyone or attempt to shake them down for gelt in return for posting fluff pieces about them.
3. I wouldn't be caught dead in that fooch gray fedora that he wears or the fop handkerchief in his breast jacket pocket.

I may be many things; but nerd is not one of them.

Anonymous said...

Hi Frummies,

You are all making total fools of yourselves and your masses. Keep up the good work enlightening the world about what idiots you are.

Boro Park was a great way to show the world what sickos you are, and this blog is a close second.

mark gordon said...

Ive never posted here before in my life. Yes, I have posted on the topic of singer in a number of other forums, but this is the first time I've discovered your little hate diatribe corner of the web, and I'm pelased to say, I'm not a regular reader. Follow you around? You are very clearly paranoid. i've never seen your name before on any site but this one. Dont worry, I will leave you to wallow in your self aggrandizing site. it's kind of rancid here with the stench of self adoration and corrupt name calling.
As ive said in otehr forums, I dont know singer, I just respect his work and am horrified by evil detractors like you and your crew of idiots. Unlike you, I stake my personal reputation behind my name and dont hide behind an alias. I'm a board certified neurologist from new york. Who are you, pray tell?

Good day. keep clinging to your dreams of making a difference. In my experience, delusions in the psychotic are generally for life.

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