The Awareness Center reports the following statistics:
FYI: This is from our stats page. So far, since the filing of the lawsuit against Yeshiva Torah Temimah, Yudi Kolko and Camp Agudah, 344 people downloaded the complaint file on Kolko from our web page.
/complaint_kolko.pdf 344
/Kolko_Yehuda.html 1263
/Kolko_Yudi.html 265
1528 visits to the Kolko web page so far.
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IS YESHIVA & MESIVTA TORAH TEMIMAH A MODERN DAY IR HANIDACHAS?
Background:
The institution currently known as Yeshiva & Mesivta Torah Temimah (“TT”) was founded by Lipa Margulies (“Margulies”) as Yeshiva Torah Vodaath of Flatbush. As an employee of the authentic Yeshiva Torah Vodaath (“YTV”), one of the oldest and most prestigious Torah institutions in America, Margulies had access to YTV’s proprietary donor information which he absconded with when he departed to start his own school.
Margulies commenced his fraud by misrepresenting himself to donors as an agent of YTV, and donations slated for YTV began fattening TT’s bank account. By the time YTV realized the extent of the brazen fraud being committed by Margulies, millions of dollars had been stolen from them by Margulies. It took several years for YTV to get Margulies into a bais din for a din Torah. The bais din forced Margulies to change his business name. He was ordered to return the stolen money, but never did. He began operating under the name Yeshiva Torah Temimah, F/K/A/ Yeshiva Torah Vodaath of Flatbush.
Kolko:
Margulies hired Yehuda Kolko (“Kolko”) as a rebbe in his new yeshiva. Margulies was immediately made aware of Kolko’s dangerous sexual deviance. Fearful of the potential impact the double whammy an ongoing financial scandal coupled with a child abuse scandal would have on his budding business, Margulies cynically chose to cover up the fact that he had hired a known pedophile and focused instead on building his business.
Kolko in turn focused on grooming and molesting his victims.
Complaints:
As TT grew both in size and prestige, the pedophile issue kept raising its ugly head. Parents and students, with frightening regularity, approached Margulies with complaints against Kolko. Margulies responded by discrediting any victims bold enough to go public and threatening their families with retaliation if they did not stop their victimized children from complaining.
In the mid 1980’s, when a few of the victims managed to convene a bais din to address the horrific accusations against Kolko, Margulies reacted by retaining Rabbi Chaim Pinchus Scheinberg, rosh hayeshiva of Torah Ohr (“Scheinberg”) to interfere with the bais din. Simcha Kaufman (“Kaufman”), is a former student of Scheinberg and currently an employee of both Margulies/TT and Camp Agudah where Kolko worked and abused children for a decade. As a high level employee of Camp Agudah, Kaufman was informed of Kolko’s molestation of young campers as early as the late 1960’s, and together with others, chose to cover up the accusations. Kaufman contacted victims and their supporters to insist they cease and desist from their attempts to rid TT and their community of a dangerous pedophile.
Specifically, Scheinberg called the organizers of the bais din and insisted they stop the din Torah proceedings. He falsely stated that under halacha two witnesses are required for the testimony to be halachically valid, and as there were not two witnesses for any single act of abuse perpetrated by Kolko, all of the accusations must be disregarded.
Scheinberg also contacted victims and asked them to tell him what had been done to them by Kolko. Upon hearing the details of Kolko’s acts of molestation, Scheinberg falsely informed the victims that under halacha, absent penetration or proof of ejaculation, Kolko’s actions against them were not punishable, and that they were obligated to cease and desist in their pursuit of justice.
In doing what he did, Scheinberg knowingly violated clear halacha to the contrary of his stated position, and allowed Margulies and Kolko to continue their perversity. Due to Scheinberg’s gross distortion of halacha, to this day, there are victims of Kolko who believe that the horrific acts of abuse Kolko perpetrated upon them are not actionable under halacha.
Not one to leave anything to chance, Margulies also enlisted the aid of Yehoshua (Shia) Fishman (“Fishman”) (Fishman is the Executive Director of Torah U’Mesorah, the National Society of Hebrew Day Schools in America.) Fishman used his position as representative of Torah U’Mesorah to have one-on-one conversations with victims of Kolko. Introducing himself as the head of Torah U’Mesorah, an organization held in great esteem by yeshiva students, he promised to keep anything told him in the strictest confidence. Reassured, the young victims poured their broken hearts out to Fishman who promised to help them. Fishman promptly reported all stories and victim's names to Margulies and Kaufman. Margulies and Kaufman proceeded to publicly name and discredit each and every victim, one by one. The astonished victims react to this day with fury at Fishman’s betrayal of their confidences. To his credit, Fishman now acknowledges that a horrible injustice was perpetrated upon Margulies and Kolko’s victims, and pleads old age, ill health, and his imminent retirement as the reason for his inaction at this time.
It is of note that Rabbi Avigdor Miller zt"l, instructed the organizers of the bais din to ignore Scheinberg’s perversion of halacha and to persist in their quest. Nonetheless, for over twenty years after Scheinberg’s maniacal interference, Kolko continued molesting young boys.
Having survived the most serious assault against his yeshiva, Margulies assumed he had put the matter behind him and focused on building his businesses. Margulies expanded Kolko’s responsibilities to include administrative duties, one-on-one “tutoring” of select students in TT, and the running of TT’s summer camp in the Catskill Mountains, known as Camp Silver Lake.
Needless to say Kolko’s child molesting continued, resulting in newly shattered lives every year.
Ir Hanidachas:
According to most interpretations, Ir Hanidachas is in reality a practical impossibility and as such is taught as a lesson on how to deal with irredeemable evil. The purpose of this post is not to seriously suggest that TT must be burned down to the ground together with all its inhabitants. To the contrary, many of the rabbeim and students of TT are innocent victims of Margulies. These rabbeim and students will have to spend the rest of their lives distancing themselves from Margulies and TT, and clearing themselves of the horrible stigma of association with TT. This is more punishment than most of them deserve and we wish them no further pain.
However, as with the concept of Ir Hanidachas, Yeshiva & Mesivta Torah Temimah is infused with an evil beyond most of our comprehension. While boy after boy was being sexually assaulted by Kolko in his private office and in the basement of the yeshiva building; at the very same time and in the very same building, the rabbeim and students sat in their classrooms and bais midrash learning, while turning a blind eye to the horrors being committed. When a few of the victims summoned the courage to accuse Kolko, the rest of TT went along quietly with Margulies, and allowed their classmates and talmidim to be villified.
Yeshiva and Mesivta Torah Temimah cries out for treatment as an Ir Hanidachas. The Rambam’s requirement that the inhabitants of an Ir Hanidachas be warned has been met. The TT community have been on notice of the midas S'dom being perpetrated by Margulies and Kolko for decades, and were warned publicly and repeatedly of the consequences its continued inaction and refusal to repent would result in.
According to the Ra’avad, the occupants of an Ir Hanidachas are so beyond the pale that even true repentance does not allow for a reprieve. A Tosefta Sanhedrin postulates that in the case of Ir Hanidachas the property of the righteous inhabitants are burned along with everyone else’s. Allow me to expand upon that thought and suggest that the guilt of the “righteous” lies in their silence while they allowed the horrific behavior to continue under the roof they shared with the purveyors of evil. Their silence is interpreted as acquiescence.
What did someone such as Rabbi S.F. Shustal, by many accounts a very special man, do to deserve this indelible blemish on his reputation? Simply stated, he was and remains to this day, silent about the horrors perpetrated by Kolko and Margulies.
While Margulies countenanced and supported Kolko’s murder of our children’s innocent souls, Shustal and his co-workers sat, and continue to sit, silently. They did, and continue to do, nothing to stop Margulies and Kolko.
In response to the argument of “what about the zechusim of the tremendous amount of Torah emanating from the many thousand graduates of TT?”, I refer to the Rambam who in Yesodei Ha’Torah states that a Sefer Torah written by an apikoros must be burned. The Rambam called for the burning of a Sefer Torah written by an apikoros because of the lack of proper intention to be m’kadaish shaim Shomayim as the Sefer Torah was written. Thus, such a Sefer Torah, although on the surface identical with a kosher Sefer Torah, lacks kedusha and as the living embodiment of tumah and sheker its very existence stands in contradiction to everything the Torah represents.
Accordingly, Torah Temimah must be dismantled, Lipa Margulies must be removed immediately, and a board of rosh yeshivas and ehrliche askonim must take over the leadership until a new rosh yeshiva is hired.
It takes no great leap of logic to apply the above to Yeshiva and Mesivta Torah Temimah, an institution built by a vile kofer on a foundation of sheker, theft, deception and the blood and souls of innocent children. While Yeshiva and Mesivta Torah Temimah might appear at first glance to be a yeshiva similar to other yeshivas, it is in fact the yeshiva equivalent of a Sefer Torah written by a min (non-believer.)
Being a community of sorts, the atrocities committed within the four walls of Yeshiva and Mesivta Torah Temimah render it an Ir Hanidachas. As such it is an institution whose eradication from our midst will result in a true kiddush Hashem and will hasten the geulah, may it be G-d’s will.
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that sounds like an insider comment. its okay we know who writes the editorials for the JP and yes its not maoz klass or mauer. therein lies the problem. while the Klass' may not be as sophisticated as the EP guys, they are real news people who grew up in this business and understand the pulse of the community. the johnny-come-lately lawyer types at the EP on the other hand are so completely out of touch its frightening. The ep looks like something Margo's criminal defense lawyer would right. its totally disgusting. Get with the program.
These shmucks have really overreached. The yeshivish crowd never liked them to begin with and then they infuriated the Modern Orthodox by smearing the RCA, YU's Rabbi Blau & Chicago's Rabbi Schwartz in order to protect Tendler.
This latest effort that insults Kolko's victims and anyone sympathetic to them is the last nail in the coffin.
If someone with money publishes an alternative, they are completely doomed. Even the losers who wait late Tuesday night in Amnon's Pizza shop for the new issue to be dropped off, will read something else. Don't forget that even the NY Times has been doing poorly against all the opposing papers.
http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=12492
(05/24/2006)
Black Hat Meets Blog
The Internet is revolutionizing closed Orthodox communities and
exposing long-hidden sexual abuse allegations — and not everyone is happy
about it.
Jennifer Friedlin - Special To The Jewish Week
Is computer technology shifting the balance of power in Brooklyn’s
insular, fervently Orthodox community?
In the 1980s, two prominent Flatbush rabbis allegedly closed the door
on a burgeoning sexual abuse scandal by preventing a rabbinical court
proceeding from taking place. Now, two decades later, an Internet blog
has reinvigorated the allegations, resulting in two multimillion-dollar
lawsuits against a rabbi, a yeshiva and a summer camp for boys.
“Without the Internet, this story never would have been brought to
light,” said Un-Orthodox Jew, the anonymous blogger who last year began
posting angry diatribes about the alleged abuse and cover-up on
www.theunorthodoxjew.blogspot.com.
On the blog, Un-Orthodox Jew, who also goes by UOJ and claims to have
deep ties in the “black hat” world, stated that Rabbi Yehuda Kolko
sexually abused a number of male students at Yeshiva and Mesivta Torah
Temimah in Flatbush and at Camp Agudah in Ferndale, N.Y., while Rabbi Lipa
Margulies, the head of the school, allegedly helped to protect him at
the expense of the victims. All told, three former students of Rabbi
Kolko allege abuse against him in the two lawsuits.
While the blog has generated heaps of scorn among readers — some people
have said UOJ’s Web posts were less acceptable than the alleged acts
they were revealing — the Web site has also elicited support as well as a
response from at least one alleged victim.
David Framowitz, a 48-year-old former student who now lives in Israel
with his family, says he first came across the blog while searching for
Rabbi Kolko’s name on the Internet. His story was chronicled in a May
22 New York Magazine story.
“I was always typing in Kolko’s name looking to see if anyone else was
molested,” he told The Jewish Week in a telephone interview last week.
“Then one day, I Googled Kolko and all of a sudden it was there.”
Framowitz posted his story to the UOJ blog, claiming that Kolko
repeatedly molested him 36 years ago while he was a seventh and eighth grade
student at Torah Temimah and during two summers at Camp Agudah. He said
he told his parents, but they did not believe him. Now, he wrote, he
was coming out because he felt the time had come to tear down “the wall
of silence.”
In response to the posts, UOJ put Framowitz in touch with Jeffrey
Herman, a Miami-based lawyer who has litigated sex abuse cases against the
Catholic Church. Herman took the case. He is also representing two other
plaintiffs who go by John Doe 2 and John Doe 3 in the complaints. The
complaints, filed in Brooklyn Federal Court, all name Rabbi Kolko and
Yeshiva and Mesivta Torah Temimah as defendants, while the complaint on
behalf of Framowitz and John Doe 2 also names Camp Agudah.
Although Rabbi Margulies is not a defendant in the case, the complaint
states that Rabbi Margulies threatened to expel from the school and
ostracize from the community any child who spoke of the abuse. Herman said
that Margulies also enlisted Rabbi Pinchus Scheinberg to help quell the
fire by telling victims that sexual abuse had not taken place because
there was no penetration. After allegedly thwarting two beit dins, Rabbi
Margulies told anyone who asked that Kolko had been exonerated,
according to last week’s New York Magazine expose. No one ever went to the
authorities.
Avi Moskowitz, a lawyer representing Torah Temimah, told The Jewish
Week that the yeshiva “emphatically denies the allegations” and has put
Kolko on administrative leave.
Rabbi David Zwiebel, a representative of Agudath Israel of America, the
owner of the camp, said that officials in his organization had not
heard of any allegations against Rabbi Kolko, who apparently left the
camp’s employ of his own accord in the mid-1970s.
“There is nobody currently in the administration who has any
recollection from that time,” Zwiebel said.
Rabbi Kolko and Rabbi Margulies declined to comment, while Scheinberg,
who is 93 and lives in Israel, could not be reached.
While the statute of limitations has expired for a criminal
investigation or a civil lawsuit, Herman said he believes that because of the
alleged cover-up the plaintiffs would have the right to pursue the civil
action.
Herman also noted that a 22-year-old has come forward with allegations
against Rabbi Kolko, but he declined to provide details. If that case
moves forward, it could fall within the statute of limitations for a
criminal investigation, according to Herman.
Besides blogging, UOJ — who said he will not reveal his identity
because it would deflect attention from his cause — said he tried several
other avenues to bring the allegations to light, from writing letters to
Jewish and secular newspapers to sending a letter about Rabbis Kolko and
Margulies to thousands of religious families throughout Brooklyn. But,
he said, no one wanted to listen.
“I have submitted letters to the editor and as long as they were
non-controversial they were accepted. But once I started snooping around
about issues no one was dealing with, my letters were not published,” said
UOJ, who describes himself as somewhere between 30 and 40 years of age,
observant and married with children. He also says that he comes from a
prominent Orthodox family that made a fortune in real estate.
Working as an Internet-based Robin Hood, UOJ said his sole interest in
starting his blog was to rattle the cocoon of Orthodoxy, which, he
claims, has enabled those in power to exploit their followers.
Experts who advocate on behalf of sex abuse victims have applauded
UOJ’s efforts. They say that because many Orthodox communities prohibit
people from going to secular authorities with allegations of abuse and
that abusers often go unpunished, the Internet provides one of the only
vehicles religious people have for accessing support.
“In the Orthodox world people don’t watch TV, they don’t listen to the
radios, they don’t read the papers but everyone seems to be sneaking
onto the Internet,” said Vicky Polin, executive director of the Awareness
Center, a Baltimore-based advocacy group for victims of sexual assault.
Yet others worry about the Internet’s potential for abuse.
Rabbi Kenneth Brander, the dean of Yeshiva University’s Center for the
Jewish Future, said he thought that recent Internet chatter is “a
reflection of the fact that victims have not felt heard on this issue.”
Nevertheless, he expressed concern about the harm a vengeful or mistaken
blogger could inflict on an innocent person.
“Not everything on a Web site can be treated as truth,” Brander said.
Whether or not the Internet proves helpful or hurtful or a bit of both,
most community observers say the Web has forever changed the way
Orthodox individuals interact with the world.
“The Internet poses an incredibly serious threat to the status quo in
these communities — as it does to any society that controls information
and suppresses public dissent,” said Hella Winston, a sociologist and
author of “Unchosen: The Hidden Lives of Hasidic Rebels.”
“The fact that David Framowitz was able to connect with UOJ from half a
world away, in only a few seconds, is nothing short of revolutionary,”
she said.
In the wake of the lawsuits and the New York magazine article, UOJ said
he has received more than 400,000 hits to his site. Meanwhile, the
alleged abuse has also become a hot topic on other Jewish blogs.
“The whole Kolko-Margulies story has brought to light some very
important questions regarding child abuse. How do we as a community deal with
allegations of abuse? How do we decide if they are founded or
fabricated? … Also, even if the allegations are founded how do we go about
stopping it? How far do we go?”
According to UOJ, such questions have been a long time coming.
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Is there really any possibility that any of the John Does will ever see a dime from these suits? How much cash money does Margo have? I assume that they won't make him actually sell the yeshiva to pay a judgment.
digging:
Your right on the money. Its time we got some honest hard hitting news that people actually care about. As opposed to retread right wing pro-republican bs op-ed stuff.
kids are jumping off roofs. whole communities are being destroyed by rabbi molesters. but the high falutin JP is busy opining about port security or some other nonesense --like anybody in washington really cares about their opinion.
it reminds of the New York times burying the holocaust in a two paragraph article on page 8 while millions of innocents were getting slaughtered. its a shanda a disgrace of immense proportion
we gotta hit them right where it hurts in the pocketbook. I say we organize a boycott. We have the MO on board because of the RCA. and now the outraged black hat community as well.
Fallsburg guy,
I'm surprised that any baal kishron by R' Elya Ber would assume that you can't collect damages from real estate holdings.
DO you believe in the torah? The gemara that says that using nivul peh causes tzaros for jews? If not, I am not addressing you. If yes, then express your concern, outrage and opposition without using nivul peh. The juvenile comments about "what would the ramchal say etc." display a lack of yiras shomayim, intellectual dishonesty, and a dull intellect. You want to make a difference? You want to change the yeshivos/rabbeim/rabbonim? Then why don't you grow up and see how being more mature might help you accomplish those things?
The New York magazine was wrong that because they are repressed, orthodox jews look for an outlet in deviant behavior. But, maybe they do need an outlet for their filthy, childish talk which this blog and similar ones provide.
I assume that they won't make him actually sell the yeshiva to pay a judgment.
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why would anyone make such an assumption? herman will collect. tt will close its doors for good.
I read today's Jewish Press editorial and really fail to see how anyone can say its insensitive to Kolko's victims or supportive of Kolko. Some of the posters here seem to think that unless the Jewish Press agrees with them on all points, it's an unpardonable sin. The editorial urges more people with info to come forward, states rather strongly that no one should misinterpret what they're saying as support for Kolko, etc. I despise Kolko but I see nothing offensive in this editorial.
//I'm surprised that any baal kishron by R' Elya Ber would assume that you can't collect damages from real estate holdings.//
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Who has real estate holdings? Is the goal to close down TT and sell the property, or just to get Margo out of there? Also, Margo hasn't been named as a defendant, so they can't go after his own money or holdings. I'm just not understanding where the money is going to come from.
The New York magazine was wrong that because they are repressed, orthodox jews look for an outlet in deviant behavior. But, maybe they do need an outlet for their filthy, childish talk which this blog and similar ones provide.
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The RAMCHAL would frown upon such harsh talk on his birthday. Go back to the job at hand, putting the 299 birthday candles on his cake.
Hey Zweibel:
have you spoken with a gent by the name of Simcha Kaufman recently. Yea he still works for camp agudah and was also around with kolko in the 60's. you can reach him at his day job at Yeshivah Torah Temimah teaching alongside kolko for the past thirty years. there are others too. You lying phony.
STOP THE LYING ALREADY YOU AGUDAH MINUVALIM. WERE GOING TO CLOSE DOWN YOUR WHOLE PHONY USELESS ORGANIZATION FASTER THAN A FLYING BORSALINO.
I believe that for any long-term boycott of the Jewish Press to be taken seriously, we need a backup alternative for the classified section which is the reason most Brooklynites buy that rag. There are probably also many singles who pick it up for event listings and other items that I can't think of. That's why we need someone with money to put on the table to start a new publication that offers introductory free ads and discounted newsstand price.
Don't forget that the backers of the NY Sun are absorbing a financial loss to make a point of opposing the NY Times.
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "NEW ADDRESS-UNORTHODOXJEWS.BLOGSPOT.COM-ADD "S" TO JEW":
We just read the article in the New York Mag., we have requested that the camp we send our children do background checks.....if they don't we will not send our son to camp.We are a frum family and while we agree that lason harah is often
a veil to cover wrong doing......but as a parent has anyone stopped to think that this abuse can drive a child to suicide or drug abuse just to try to cope with the pain?
"I see nothing offensive in this editorial. "
Which Jewish Press Editor or staffer under direction just posted that lame attempt to weasel out of things.
It's well known that both the Jewish Press & Susie Smear Rosenbluth of Teaneck's Jewish Voice read these blogs.
Blow it out your rear.
“There is nobody currently in the administration who has any
recollection from that time,” Zwiebel said.
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mmmm. has simcha kaufman lost his memory? is borchard in denial? perhaps we are seeing a case of institutional amnesia?
There was an incident many years ago in Agudah and when Borchardt was informed of it, he told the counselor to pack his bags.
Borchardt is old school and doesn't tolerate this crap - Kaufman is another story.
Agudath Israel & Josh Fishman,
Repeat after me: I don't recall.
How many Rosh Yeshivas would behave differently from the way Margo behaved? I agree that he's generally a behaima gassa, but when I went to the hanhala of my yeshiva in the early 80's about a molestation incident that happened to me, they didn't do a blasted thing about it. It was my word against his. We need to have a system in place so that people feel comfortable coming forward, confident that there will be a COMPLETE and fair inquiry, and that they won't be penalized later in any way for coming forward.
I read today's Jewish Press editorial and really fail to see how anyone can say its insensitive to Kolko's victims or supportive of Kolko. Some of the posters here seem to think that unless the Jewish Press agrees with them on all points, it's an unpardonable sin. The editorial urges more people with info to come forward, states rather strongly that no one should misinterpret what they're saying as support for Kolko, etc. I despise Kolko but I see nothing offensive in this editorial.
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I've been involved in this for a while. I don't agree fully with the above, but do agree that the Jewish Press editorial is mostly supportive of our position.
My students learn well.
Margo never gave a damn about the little people.
The Jewish Press Editors think they're talking to little people.
What the hell is the point of background checks when incidents go unreported in the first place! Every camp should arrange a meeting with their staff in advance of the summer season (now) and inform them that there will be a zero tolerance policy and a counselor should be reprimanded for even being alone with a camper. There are gedarim for every single halacha and there is no reason we shouldn't impose boundaries here as well. This policy must be reiterated in "black & white" even if it is assumed so. Camp administration should let the staff know that ANY reported incidents will be handled directly by the police. Campers should be spoken to as well and educated in this issue.
Any camp who refuses should be closed down. Plain and simple.
Gross;
You are absolutely correct. It's scary sending a kid away to camp.
That skunk Leib Pinter has at various times claimed to be a talmid of either R' Shmuel Berenbaum or myself, the hero-thief of Sherwood Forest.
He claims he was helping Toyre and yeshivos by stealing from rich Uncle Sam to give to the poor yungerleit.
He's nothing but a greedy little weasel who steals from Olympia Mortgage customers to line his pockets.
There is a shita in halacha that is not generally accepted that males should not be meyached with each other.
Here's a nice hiddur mitzva for camps that certainly makes more sense than any chumra like cholov yisroel.
Kitzur Shulchan Aruch said...
There is a shita in halacha that is not generally accepted that males should not be meyached with each other.
Here's a nice hiddur mitzva for camps that certainly makes more sense than any chumra like cholov yisroel.
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Ironically, I believe Camp Silver Lake had that rule.
That sounds about right. We always thought Leib Pinter looks like a little rodent.
"Camp Silver Lake had that rule."
If it can be proven that Yudi Kolko violated that rule in camp, it wouldn't look very good, to say the least, in front of the judge and jury.
UOJ must really be getting the message out. Even the Torah Temimah janitor has weighed in on this blog.
A couple of Homeless nuts, Mendel the Coat Rack and the "Mechutan" asked me if I know of a computer they can log on to and post something. They want to tell Kolko, Margo and Pinter to "stop harrassing" everyone and relate some damaging eyewitness accounts of crimes by Yudi Kolko when they were secretly resting in a dark corner of the TT boiler room.
I read today's Jewish Press editorial and really fail to see how anyone can say its insensitive to Kolko's victims or supportive of Kolko.
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OK read this again
"To be sure, a lawsuit has been filed. The only requirement to commence a lawsuit is the purchase of a court index number. Further, a court complaint consists only of allegations; actual proof of anything is not required. So in and of itself the filing of a complaint amounts to nothing more than one person's view or claim.
In this particular case, there is the added dimension that the rabbi’s alleged indiscretions occurred more than twenty-five years ago, well beyond the applicable statute of limitations for bringing a lawsuit. The significance of this is not just technical. In practical terms, what this means is that the case will, in all likelihood, be dismissed – with the charges against the rabbi never subject to any legitimate inquiry.
These days, what with the proliferation of "gotcha" websites and bloggers – many of them anonymous and all of them accountable to no one – it has become de rigueur to credit any claims deemed to be anti-establishment and to assume the worst about anyone in a position of authority. But that doesn’t make it right, and it certainly is not the way of our Torah authorities."
now go back and read the "anonymous pashkiville" editorial -- also posted here
The editorial today should have been entitled
ANONYMOUS NO MORE
Thats right. Jeff Herman an attorney who specializes and has won major awards against the Catholic Church has put his firms reputation on the line with two complaints in federal court.
A victim david framowitz a settler on the front line from israel a married father has put his reputation on the line.
Now the Jewish press has real legitamate news to report.
The Daily News reported it twice, the New York Post, the jewish week, all news aorganizations at least as reputable as the JP, all did what news organizations do - report the news. Thats all the Jewish press should have done is reported the news like evreybody else
Instead they bent over backwards to dilute the earthquake like impact of these stories by becoming part of the legal team for kolko and margulies -see above-Thats totally inappropriate. (They don't know what theyre talking about by the way they should speak to someone in the field.) Just report the news. and by the way unlike New york magazine who spent weeks investigating this story the jewish press has done nothing zero zilch nada to ascertain the veracity of these charges. Why not? Why do the goyim in NY magazine think the destruction of jewish children is important but not the jewish press? pray tell me what out there in the big wide world is more important than the protection of our children?
A wise man admits when he's wrong. A fool digs himself deeper into the muck. The jewish press is knee deep in very serious muck. They would do a fast mea culpa if they were smart.
I just spoke to a friend in Lakewood, he doesn't even know what's going on.
"Anonymous said...
I just spoke to a friend in Lakewood, he doesn't even know what's going on."
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Of course, the internet has been banned in Lakewood.
i went to ytt and even tough R KOLKO was very strict with us i,and all my friends do not believe a word of this.
I think that we should all teach our kids that if they are being molested they should physically mark the molester, Bite or scratch him in a way that would enable them to go to someone in authority and tell and when the molester denies it ask him to explain the bite mark on his ass.
What don't you believe, that a man put himself on the line to say that Kolko molested him? Or that there have been rumors about Kolko since the late 70's? Please.
Gross;
You're on the ball. Excellent points.
Bottom Line (I'm starting to sound like Steve Somers) will the camp admins do this/ Doubtfu;. To do so admits that there may be a potential problem.
There's no reason for personal attacks against someone who doesn't believe the charges. Just because the guy has crud for brains doesn't make him a stupid frickin' dillwad.
Your absolutely right its all a bilbul on a choshuve mechanech. Just ask gedaliah weinberger or the Novominsker or Simcha kaufman or Lipa G. or godel mekoolum hagoan Applegrad its mamesh mefoorish.
crawl back under a rock you morons
Please, the rumors about Kolko are older than the one about me killing that Mitzri bastard. And equally as true. Friggin idiots, you haven't learned a damn thing since we traypsed across that muddy river together. PT Barnum had it wrong, but he was close. There's a Jewish sucker born every minute. And 1 out of 4 have been diddled by Kolko.
"Anonymous said...
Your absolutely right its all a bilbul on a choshuve mechanech. Just ask gedaliah weinberger or the Novominsker or Simcha kaufman or Lipa G. or godel mekoolum hagoan Applegrad its mamesh mefoorish."
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Un noch mer, these are people who wear BLACK HATS and beards, how can anyone assume any of the rumors are true!
why hasnt anyone else come foward publicly. there are many people with grudges against kolko who went to ytt .i went there and i was pissed at him then but that doesnt make him a child molester
He's a troll - I think this guy is putting us on. There's nobody stupid enough to believe what he's saying. I have a question for you, TT guy; isn't it better to have him out of the classroom while there's a real inquiry into the accusations?
"I just spoke to a friend in Lakewood, he doesn't even know what's going on."
There were also greaseballs who didn't know the Gulf War broke out.
why are u so certain to belisve the accusations what happened to loshon harah rechilus and to daan adom licaf zechus
"i went to ytt and even tough R KOLKO was very strict with us i,and all my friends do not believe a word of this."
Hi Mendy Kolko. Long time no see. I didn't know you read this blog.
There's no chezkas kashrus on a guy who has been doing this stuff for decades. But even if you are right, he needs to be away from kids and their gonads.
I could see the Novominsker and Georgie Weinberger defending Kolko even up until a week ago.
Are you guys saying that they're STILL defending this criminal sex fiend??!!
I don't think they're out of their minds or just plain stupid.
to yeshivah shreck there are people out there who are sitting and learning torah and arent bothered with stupid baseless accusations and use the time for things like mitzvos etc. and not gossip and motzie shem rah and u prob have a bone to pick with yeshivas bec u prob werent succesful in one and are jeolous of those who learn
Maybe Scheinerman told Georgie not to believe any "stories". Scheinerman heard that R' Hershel Schechter came out against Kolko so he's forming an opinion accordingly.
Can someone please tell me wher to find the offender list on the Awareness Center site? i can not find it.
Don't feed the troll! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
do any of u even know R kolko u just jump on the bandwagon and ruin someones life bec someone in israel and UOJ have a bone to pick with R kolko
Which bone and who is picking?
Do you honestly believe that three people had nothing better to do than to accuse a perfectly innocent person of molestation? I know a lot of rebbes who were pretty big jerks, but nobody accused them of pedophilia.
The only one doing any bone picking was Kolko when he selected which hairless males to prey upon as he masturbated himself into oblivion while making sure that you and every other Jew in this generation never sees the geulah. I can't believe thatyou could put Jenna Jameson in one room and a defenseless nine year old in the other and Kolko would ignore Jenna like the plague.
"Anonymous said...
do any of u even know R kolko u just jump on the bandwagon and ruin someones life bec someone in israel and UOJ have a bone to pick with R kolko"
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Please be honest. What form of evidence would satisfy you that Kolko is guilty?
The silence is deafening.
ur bone.why someone with another opinion then ur own is a troll
Anonymous,
For someone so concerned about mitzvos bain adam le'chavayro, it's too bad you couldn't be dan me le'kaf zechus.
The handful in Lakewood who didn't know the Gulf War started were a very small but spacey minority who do not reflect on the most yeshivish sector of the population. There is nothing wrong with keeping on top of a major event like that which is why virtually everyone including R' Yisroel Neuman had a clue. Even the most heavy duty yeshivishe chevra couldn't contain their laughter when these poor uniformed neshomos finally asked what's going on, so you also need to get a sense of humor.
My years in Lakewood were also Boruch Hashem rather successful, thank you.
evedence that would stand up in court not just some bloggers personal vendetta
Would Yudi's formerly red pubic hair caught between some kid's teeth do it for you?
"Anonymous said...
evedence that would stand up in court not just some bloggers personal vendetta"
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Please give an example.
The silence is deafening.
have u heard from the personwho it happened to do u know if he is not a loose cannon and why is that a bases to besmirch a person if u respect halacha u would know its assur
Would you send your child to be in his class next year? Or maybe you are a child...
hey margo its all about the benjamins!!!!
Don't Feed the Animals said...
That applies to answering any idiot who defends Kolko at this point.
Ignore the pest and he will go away.
why cant u tolerate another view im someone who isnt quick to judge bec i spent 15 yrs in ytt and i wasnt a fan of his but i never saw him act in any way that would make me believe in this and from people who i know had him he was a great rebbi
mt mehdi said...
"Anonymous said...
evedence that would stand up in court not just some bloggers personal vendetta"
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Please give an example.
The silence is deafening
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Don't expect an answer
"i spent 15 yrs in ytt"
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Duh ! It's obvious from your spelling and grammer.
i think kolko is innocent unless u have proof and thats the jewish way of doing things a vendetta is somebody who doesnt like someone for whatever reason maybe kolko suspended him and with the internet can get back at him
R' Geldwirth is a future Gadol. If Margo goes down, count on Lipa #2 to take the reigns and steer YTT out of this minefield.
I hoep you intantionally misspellled "grammer." A little ironic otherwise.
Wow is Mr. Anonymous a simpleton. He learned so many years in TT and never heard of the halachos of kol.
The twerp is actually a smart cookie in disguise I believe, planted here by Camp Kolko. He knows that roshei yeshiva and rabbonim have already come out against Kolko but camp Kolko is living in lala land as if any of this is going away.
"Anonymous said...
i think kolko is innocent unless u have proof and thats the jewish way of doing things a vendetta is somebody who doesnt like someone for whatever reason maybe kolko suspended him and with the internet can get back at him"
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Please give an example of acceptable proof.
oh big shot u knowhow to spell yhat doesnt make ur point of view better and there are plenty of ytt grads who got very far with thier ytt education
I don't get it. If they lose the case and have to sell the yeshiva property, nobody is steering nuttin.
if it can stand up in bes din thats proof jews from moshe rabenu's time and on have aired their disputes in thier own courts with thier own set of rules called halacha so proof is something u would find in a book called shulcan aruch
"Anonymous said...
if it can stand up in bes din thats proof jews from moshe rabenu's time and on have aired their disputes in thier own courts with thier own set of rules called halacha so proof is something u would find in a book called shulcan aruch"
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Please give an example of proof that is acceptable "in a book called the shulchan aruch."
This is not a trick question.
They are not going to lose the case. Margo will be "forced to resign" as a Korban but will stay behind the scenes. Kolko will never teach children (in the U.S.) again. R' Geldwirth (who has the respect of the parents, students and community) will steer the ship.
Whoever turned the computer on for that guy needs to put him to bed for the night. I hope the waterproof mattress pad is on.
to mt mehdi the same proof u would want if i accused ur father of molesting me u wouldnt believe it with out proof would u
"Anonymous said...
to mt mehdi the same proof u would want if i accused ur father of molesting me u wouldnt believe it with out proof would u"
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This child either does not understand the question or cannot give an example of proof that would satisfy him that Kolko is guilty. You know why, because there is no evidence that would satisfy him.
If there was a picture, he would say it's trick photography. If there was a video, he would say it'a forgery. If there was a tape recording, he'd say it's not Kolko on the tape. If there were witnesses, he'd say that they have a personal vendetta against Kolko.
witnesses
"Anonymous said...
to mt mehdi the same proof u would want if i accused ur father of molesting me u wouldnt believe it with out proof would u"
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That is true, but proof that is good enough for me and proof that is good enough for you is very different.
R' Geldwirth is a future Gadol. If Margo goes down, count on Lipa #2 to take the reigns and steer YTT out of this minefield.
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Just make sure you stay away from his wee wee while he is doing the steering.
Just look how "fardimyont" all you Flatbush losers are, You get a reality check from your very own Jewish Press and you can't handle it, hence the talk of boycotts etc. I'm sorry if page six is the only reliable news source for you.
GROW UP! Get real. You know Kolko did nothing wrong as well as everyone else.
All this is, is a vent for your rage on your not making it in life e.g. learning, money, status and respect
margo is a skilled player he isnt losing control any time soon
if it can stand up in bes din thats proof jews from moshe rabenu's time ...
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haven't you been reading? margo was not a jew in moshe rebeinu's times. he is a magyar khazar.
A lot of people respect me. Errrr - well at least my mother does.
barry
why the need to destroy another family. What good does knowing the father in law's name do? I guess you like all this gossip.
i agree that these people are angry and jelous and they have no happiness in life unless the tear someone down
margo is a skilled player he isnt losing control any time soon
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He's done real well so far.
Hello. I was wondering if there is a way to search this blog. I heard there is information here about abuse by Rabbi Aaron Levine of Toronto. This thread has almost 1000 posts and is hard to read in it's entirety.
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welcome back scheinberg! learn a little halacha.
The only good proof is if Kolko received hazmana from 2 witnesses and then the 2 witnesses saw him mamash penetrate the 10 year old. But the 2 witnesses have to be verrrry close to make sure his ever went in all the way, otherwise, it's just bilbul b'alma.
4get it these people respect no one nothing is beyond their warped minds
to search hit contro and f together
I meant control and f
Have you no respect? What did R' Geldwirth do to merit your filthy comment. He is a tremendous tzaddik and world-renowned marbitz Torah. You are obviously jealous of his accomplishments. Nu, instead of bashing him, why don't you pull your life out of the gutter and be mischazek others?
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lippy is being oiver on hoitzuas shem rah against a very chashuveh ben torah (e.g.) and he is guilty of ruining lives when he was single and acting like a pervert in his hut in manavu.
he was certainly marbitz something in those days. it wasnt torah.
if he did teshuva, why is he bothering chashuvim today? elah mai, he didnt do teshuva and is in reality a big fraud.
kudos to the jewish press for getting it right
This is fun. Thanks, UOJ, for giving us somewhere to play. I haven't filled my hourly billing requirement for a couple of days now.
if these allegations are true were are all thr rabonim and gedolim their not here bec its baseless crap from people who love to gossip and need so called scandels to keep active and unbored open a sefer it wont kill any of u
The real momzir at YTT and Camp Agudah is Avi Pearl.More to come
this guy who is billing while blogging shame on u this is the typical UOJ writer unconcered wiyh halacha or the law
what did avi pearl do
////////If there was a picture, he would say it's trick photography. If there was a video, he would say it'a forgery. If there was a tape recording, he'd say it's not Kolko on the tape. If there were witnesses, he'd say that they have a personal vendetta against Kolko.//////
If Kolko's shmekel was down his throat, he'd sasy Yidi was just taking a throught culture. The idiot frummoks in denial with their heads buried in their shita mikubetzes would know sexual abuse if they were hog tied to a tree with their beitzim attached to a car battery and yidi licking his chops like they were a steak dinner and breathing like he weighed 400 pounds.
Schmuck! I said I have NOT filled my requirement. That means I am not billing while I am battling.
Wow sorry about those typos, should have read:
If Kolko's shmekel was down his throat, he'd say Yidi was just taking a throat culture.
For you out-of-towners and MO's who aren't familiar with R' Lipa Geldwirth or YTT.... R' Lipa overcame tremendous adversity (I am not going to dwell on it) to reach his current status. For that, he deserves a hefty yasher koiach! We all have skeletons in our closet, but that shouldn't hold us back from going vaiy'ter. As Reb Lipa has often said, somethimes you need to take a few steps back before you can take a giant leap forward. Reb Lipa is destined to be that giant. Let us pray that he has the support to lead YTT out of this mess.
Avi Pearl was a friend of mine years ago. His father taught limudei Chol at the Mir and was a big boki in hilchos shabbos. I sincerely hope he didn't do anything wrong. If you don't know anything from firsthand knowledge please be very careful.
I know an Avi Pearl. How old is the one you are talking about? What does he look like?
R' Lipa overcame tremendous adversity (I am not going to dwell on it) to reach his current status.
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he forgot to beg mechila from his victims some of whom left yiddishkeit because of what he did to them.
Is Avi Pearl in his mid 50's? Is he really tall?
no hes in his 40's
What does R' Geldwirth claim to be? He has EARNED respect. If a former victim would approach him discreetly, do you think he wouldn't ask mechila? He is an Anav to the highest degree.
All of a sudden now these Kolko supporters crawl out of the woodwork like cockroaches? I didn't even know he had any supporters left.
You can all go to hell.
yoeli gay shtip a rat. hangdech
is it true the Jewish press will soon be coming out in English?
all u losers out there go savr people in darfur or the whales and stop ur obbsesiveness with kolko
I hope that the claims about R' Geldwirth are not true, but to ANON: How stupid are you to say that if "a former victim would approach him, don't you think he would ask him Mechila. He is an Anav." WOW - what a high level of anivus to aspire to!!! You can molest children, walk around like a godol and then only if and when the victims approach you and, even then, only in a DISCREET manner - you ask them Mechila, you are considered an Anav of the highest degree.
Again, I don't know anything about Rabbi Geldwirth and I hope the accusations are false, but it says something about morons like ANON that they can actually believe that someone can molest children, continue with their lives as usual, build a reputation as a great man, and even be an ANAV for asking mechila only if and when the victims approach you in a DISCREET and BAKOVODICKEH manner.
ANON: Wake up already!!!
The remark about when will the Jewish Press be published in English shows the level of conversation on this blog. What part of that editorial is not English - -and good English at that? I disagre with the JP 80 percent of the time, maybe more, but whoever criticizes them for bad English is barking up the wrong tree. years ago, yes, but there's a lot of fine writers and fine writing in the paper now. Doesn't mean they're right on the issues, though.
If a former victim would approach him discreetly, do you think he wouldn't ask mechila? He is an Anav to the highest degree.
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Is that in the Yeshiva Torah Temimah handbook? Molesters arwe allowed to move on with their life but the molested must be discreet and must seek out the molester in order to politely ask for an apology?
That's what you get from Torah learned in an Ir Hanidachas.
Whether or not Lipa Geldwirth did what many claim he did before he got married in his 30's is not the point. The point is that you Torah Temimah / Kolko / Margulies / Geldwirth apologists are so beyond the pale you have lost touch with basic human decency.
Derech Eretz Kudmah L'Torah applies to just this type of situation. You can't absorb Torah if you lack a basic human ideal of acceptable civilized behavior.
u are right
why do so many people hate ytt
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because of what it has come to represent. say "yeshiva torah temimah" today and it is associated with the most horrific behavior known to mankind.
Allegations Against A Rabbi
By: Editorial Board
Wednesday, May 24, 2006
An article in last week’s issue of New York magazine reporting on lurid allegations of inappropriate conduct against a Brooklyn yeshiva rabbi, and on a lawsuit filed by some of his students, has thrust the issue of student abuse at yeshivas into the public arena. Several weeks ago, the very same charges were contained in an anonymous flyer circulated throughout Flatbush, Brooklyn, which prompted an editorial in The Jewish Press questioning the propriety of anonymous accusations,
but which of course took no position on the charges themselves.
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Why? What self respecting news organization reports on a flyer while ignoring its earth shattering content?
but which of course took no position on the charges themselves.
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Why? What self respecting news organization reports on a flyer while ignoring its earth shattering content?
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The same paper that reports on a magazine article and lawsuit as being the news instead of doing what every other paper is doing; reporting on the story itself. Same old Jewish Press, nothing changes.
The above should in no way imply support for the accused in this matter. The Jewish Press has for years reported on and examined issues of abuse in our community, often in the face of threatened subscription cancellations and loss of advertising. And certainly we would urge anyone with information about this particular case to contact the authorities.
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What a transparent and disingenuous fig leaf. The day we need to turn to the Jewish Press for advice on curing our social ills, is a sorry day indeed.
What drives these moronic and sophistic editorials? What kind of a newspaper believes itself to be the focus of the news? Only the Jewish Press. Your earlier ineptitude spawned the Yated and the Hamodia, it will most likely now cause the birth of another newspaper. Good work guys.
I wasn't there there the same year as the attempted rape but I heard about it. I do know about another story. There was a real sadist physical abuser who also had a wealthy father paying to keep him there. The worst abuse I remember him doing was putting acid in a young kid's eyes. The poor kid was betzaar gadol from this assault and had to run in the mikva with his clothes on to flush out his eyes.
The abuser did all kinds of terrible things that were ok with the corrupt rabbis as long as the father kept sending checks.
The worst non-abuse thing this abuser did was he stole a telephone calling card from one bochur and then a regular credit card from another bochur. He would go in the conference room during seder time and call some 1-900 sex line. He would turn red while he was feeling himself up talking to these zonas. People could see his face from windows inside the beis medrash. When you asked him what was wrong, he said his sister is having tzores. This went on for a very long time until someone pressed automatic redial.
Kolko has alot more supporters than otherwise, just UOJ would moderate and weed them out. Communism UOJ's way
Ultimately, of course, we look to our rabbinic leaders to come up with a process that can appropriately deal with these very serious challenges to our community. A course of action compatible with Torah standards must be found.
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Rabbinic leaders? These self same leaders who caused the instant crisis? Those who believe themselves capable of curing child molesters through "Teshuva." Perhaps you refer to the Torah standards as enunciated so clearly by Rabbi Pinchus Scheinberg and his disciple Rabbi Simcha Kaufman. No penetration, no Torah consequences. No two witnesses, no Torah basis for any action.
How many lives lost to this insanity would it take to get your attention? 10? 50? 100? 200? 500? Shall I keep on going? How about one holy jewish child's life?
It's about the children, stupid!
Kolko has alot more supporters than otherwise, just UOJ would moderate and weed them out. Communism UOJ's way
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Good. He's available to babysit your boys. Call him.
Over 1000 posts.
My computer won't even show anything past post 900-something.
Can UOJ see this?
"What does R' Geldwirth claim to be? He has EARNED respect. If a former victim would approach him discreetly, do you think he wouldn't ask mechila? He is an Anav to the highest degree."
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Ask Mechila for what?
Ask Mechila for what?
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using little boys to satisfy his urges in manavu before he got married.
no wonder klein got rid of these two sickos
"Ask Mechila for what?
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using little boys to satisfy his urges in manavu before he got married. "
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If that is indeed the truth, why aren't victims calling for his head? Also, why is Kolko being treated differently?
Anonymous said...
This is fun. Thanks, UOJ, for giving us somewhere to play. I haven't filled my hourly billing requirement for a couple of days now.
I feel the same way. I learned about this site from N.Y. Magazine. Since then my Television viewing has gone down from 4 hours a night to just 2 hours a week. Tell that to the Lakewood people who are against the internet.
If that is indeed the truth, why aren't victims calling for his head? Also, why is Kolko being treated differently?
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kolko molested hundreds of kids over decades.
geldwirth used a few boys in manavu. the hope is that his wife keeps him in line. if anyone knows of a recent episode, make it public.
Where is Eliot Pasik?
Here's the stats this month so far on the web page we have on Kolko.
/Kolko_Yehuda.html 2701
/complaint_kolko.pdf 555 (download of complaint
is it true the Jewish press will soon be coming out in English?
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great line I love it
the truth is behind the fancy facade its the same stupid paper it always was. all the sophistry fools no one and can't mask its totally farkroomte point of view. They are so mixed up i truly am not sure whether they are coming or going. they aren't either.
one day they are pro yom hhatzmut modern orthodox. the next day they attack the rca and talk like yeshiveshe greaseballs bes din ahin bes din aher kanievsky etc.
im not sure if theyre selling lukshin kugel or shlishke but whatever it is it sure ain't worth the buck they charge.
time for a new newspaer the title wil be The Chazar Chronicle. Only advertisements for authentic picha will be accepted.
How many parents are sending their boys to sleep-away camp this year?
I'd be scared s--t.
Remember our call after Taps when we saw the O.D. coming:
"Chicky, Chicky, O.D. is coming!"
Well who knew he or one of his colleagues was coming back at 3 A.M. to do some Metzizah B'Peh?
So you send away your healthy, happy son, for thousands of your hard-earned dollars, and at the end of the summer, get back a basket case that is seriously screwed up and you have no idea why.
Imagine that on Visiting Day, you're putting tip money into the hands of a Staff member that had his hands down your son's pants or worse.
You gonna talk to he Head staff of the Camp at the beginning of the summer to get assurances? Fuhgeddaboutitt! They don't have a clue and don't give a s--t.
It's 2 A.M. Do You Know Who's Molesting Your Son?
Here's what I consider more than adequate proof:
1. A lawyer is subject to severe financial penalty for filing a lawsuit that has no basis in fact. It is extremely doubtful that Mr. Herman would subject himself to such sanctions.
2. The accusation against Rabbi Kolko is of a nature that, if untrue, is libelous per se. NY Magazine would simply not print such an allegation without absolute and definite proof of its truth.
3. The notion that someone 30+ years removed from the yeshiva and the rabbi would announce to the world that he was abused as a child to satisfy some kind of need for vengeance after all this time is plainly ridiculous.
My admiration for UOJ and David Framowitz knows no bounds.
One last remark -- I was horrified to hear this story; the reaction of those all too willing to maintain the status quo and close their eyes to this activity has just made this all the worse.
PLEASE START A NEW THREAD! SHKOYACH!
Anonymous said...
Up until now i didn't feel the need to share with the world my camping experiences. However, in light of recent events - namely this sicko blog - i would like to share with you some of what i remember.
I remember an older camper approaching me after baseball to tell me that he liked my competitiveness, my blue eyes, and my "sprinkles".
I remember at night when the older camper would come to my bunkhouse and lay down next to me - talking to me. His hands though, were under my blanket. His fingers were caressing my thighs. His breathing getting heavier and heavier.
I remember so much more...
Angry soul aka D.R. aka (just like you i won't reveal your name)
Do you remember me?
and all u idiots out there who yhink its geshmak to sit behind a computer screen and bash gedolim u should know thats its one of the worst averos that can be done no matter what u thing about what they have said or have done u have to respect their wisdom and judgement
no matter what u thing about what they have said or have done u have to respect their wisdom and judgement
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This guy Jewish? Me thinks he's a cult member.
yes thats what it means to be jewish to listen to our leaders of the generation and to respect them
and all u idiots out there who yhink its geshmak to sit behind a computerescreen and bash gedolim u should know thats its one of the worst averos that can beedone no matter what u thing about what they have said or have done u have to respect their wisdom and judgement
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Wah wah wah. Keep defending the child molester. I'm sure you wouldn't mind if his hands were fishing in your pants.
how do u know hes a child molester were u there putz
so then any Rebbi can be accused of molestation bec he's not being supervised every minute of the day maybe we should have video cameras in the classroom
they have that in public schools its a great idea
lots of parents have video camera's in their house to make sure that the housekeeper or babysitter are not beating their kids.
A.M. Leizerowitz Update:
I hear he showed up in Toronto when the Gerre Rabbi was there. He claims to be here to pack up and will leave for various reasons either before or after the summer. Imagine the last LICKS he will be getting in with the teenage boys! He says the Rabbi told him to come only when he has another chinuch job in Israel. Wow! Imagine, he wont even skip a beat beating off on the poor confused boys! As for his rabbi, he appears to have chickened out of staying in B.P. for long out of fear of the story being spread on the streets in his honor as was threatened by people involved. Rumor has it that lawyers are now tracking the assets of th Ger Yeshiva and AML's home so if they are sold off or change hands the plaitiffs get first dibs. When this one breaks the Chassids will know how YTT feels. We are just moving slowly like UOJ so as to prove we tried every alternate way before filing suit.
Can anything be done about that low life wilner from ytv who physically and mentally abused so many kids, I was one of them.
Yudi Kolko was also the gym teacher at the Mirrer Yeshiva on Ocean Parkway. I was only 13 at the time but I remember vividly him holding me from the back in a room just off the main gym and fondling my private parts.
To the anonymous poster who claims to have been seduced / molested in RJJ by the janitor, "victor":
There was at no point in the history of RJJ any custodial workewr by the name of 'Victor,' and blaming your lifestyle pervision on any Yeshiva available is not excusable. Although the acts commited by Kolko and YTT, if true, are abominable, there is no reason to lash out at every religious institution without fact or reason. Readers, please disregard this Moron's post, as he is obviously full of more than just anger. Rabbi Soloff ZTL was a wonderful man who radiated kindness. Back off and dont disrespect his memory with your crap.
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To the anonymous poster who claims to have been seduced / molested in RJJ by the janitor, "victor":
There was at no point in the history of RJJ any custodial workewr by the name of 'Victor,' and blaming your lifestyle pervision on any Yeshiva available is not excusable. Although the acts commited by Kolko and YTT, if true, are abominable, there is no reason to lash out at every religious institution without fact or reason. Readers, please disregard this Moron's post, as he is obviously full of more than just anger. Rabbi Soloff ZTL was a wonderful man who radiated kindness. Back off and dont disrespect his memory with your crap.
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Marvin:
Whether or not this accusation is accurate, your silence in the Kolko affair is deafening and speaks volumes.
Why are you not screaming about this ongoing travesty? How many yeshivas must UOJ attack before you speak up and help bring about change?
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