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"Herskovic died Friday at his Encino home after a lengthy battle with cancer, said his daughter, Patricia Herskovic.
Three months after being sent from Belgium to Auschwitz, Herskovic escaped by cutting through a chain-link fence with two other prisoners using a pair of wire cutters he had hidden. It was the first night of Hanukkah in 1942.
The three hopped a train to Breslau, Germany, but a local rabbi threw them out when they tried to tell him about the horrors at Auschwitz."
People dont realize.... throughout jewish history rabbis denied and did not address many important issues as they happened. Rabbonim (for the most part i hope) are learned people, that know how to deal with pure halacha and jewish matters.
War, sexual abuse, drugs and many other world issues are out of many rabbonims' league and they just dont have the tools to deal with. It usually takes years and years for the "leaders" in that sense, to catch up to the times. Drug use is a good example, I think they are finally catching up, but sexual abuse unfortunately is taking a longer time. I hope sooner rather than later people and leaders will stop being this blind and deal with these issues in an appropriate manner. If they would only look back at their own history... and learn from the mistakes of the past.
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The big proble nowadays is that we dont have any real NACHSHON.
Most of the gedoliMwho should have spoken up about these issues in our schools are simply spineless. oR they are simply afraid of thier supporters.
The closest to nachshon that i came across is UOJ.
Hes got the spine and the Kohonies.
Keep it up my friend.
Just let us know before you make that major LEAP.
Hold it there UOJ, I think comparing this to the holocaust in any way is over the line. I don't like when people use the holocaust to prove their own point. I am not denying the horror of abuse but don't dilute th potentcy of your argument by comparing it to Auschwitz.
As for me, I was all set to send my son to TT for yeshiva and now - only because of you - I am not. Sadly, my other choice - Ruach Chaim - is also out. I guess I will have to settle for third best.
Your third best is probably *best* by now
Yehudah,
Send your kids to a place that doesn't put down college or care what color shirt your son wears!
UOJ - I understand your point and it is well taken. Nevertheless, I still think that comparing anything to the holocaust is unwise.
Above Anon - if such a yeshiva exists please let me know.
Send your kids to a place that doesn't put down college or care what color shirt your son wears
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or whether your parents beds touch each other. god forbid
(BTW THIS COMMENT IS NOT A JOKE)
Toras Emes. It is not as "vilde" as in previous years and the Rebbeim really care (at least some of them do) about the talmidim. And you're kid won't grow up hating Yiddishkeit.
Dear Chaverim,
Just a quick note, and I'll have more to say very soon -
I'm working on this project very hard. I'm trying to arrange for a beis din. I am additionally seeking a "global" solution for the problem of child sex abuse in our community, i.e., fingerprint-based criminal background checks for all yeshiva employees; and our own internal disciplinary system and registry of individuals barred from employment in our mosdos because of a history of sex abuse or violence. I am close to achieving positive results, but there are no guarantees. I am encouraged by the fact, however, that there are some others involved in this project. I am optimistic.
I originally came onto this blog on January 4, 2006, after I read the personal accounts of child sex abuse. I identified myself by name and address, and I informed the blog "velt" what I have been doing in this area. I said that I was available to publicly speak on this issue, and I still am. I did this because I felt a personal chov to say something, and do something. Today is March 7. For decades, nothing was happening, but in two months, a lot is. So please, fellow Jews, give us a chance. And I'm glad to say that the "us" is getting bigger and bigger. We have the frum Jew and musmach, UOJ, and some others, to thank for that.
Kol tuv, and I hope to be writing something additional very shortly.
Elliot B. Pasik
Attorney at Law
145 West Olive Street
Long Beach, New York 11561
efpasik@aol.com
I am sad about all this. Two of my friends have decided to send their children to public school after reading about all the molestation being allowed by rabbi Marlolis in his school. It seems the rabbis are quite dangerous around children.
It is a serious issue to be dealt with, but to to compare this to the Hollocaust when 6 MILLION Jewish Sould were snatched from our midst is to completely wipe away the memory of so many loved ones, including my dear father who perished in the War.
Please, show some sensitivity to those Holocaust survivors and their children.
I would hope that my aunt, my father's sister, would never read this comparison.
It shows how little we understand what went on during World War 2. European Jewry was completely wiped out.
How can we just call every crisis the same as the Holocaust.
Have we lost all moral and ethical comparative ability?
Please, I beg you, show some sincerity and understanding.
Mr. Pasik, how come you don't respond to your emails?
I completely agree with this
When the Lanner situation was first going on, the O-U was almost completely committed to covering and apologizing for him, with barely a slap on the wrist. the O-U!
I was desperately hoping that other rabbis would step in and challenge their kashrut... that that kind of a shonda was that inexcusable and required such a huge response. But nothing happened on a large scale. Thankfully, small-scale behind-the-scenes pressure must have worked. But there was no grand-scale outrage. It's such an enormous shame.
Thank you for posting this.
UOJ!
you are very wrong to bring up the story with the holocaust. i know that you are anti-rabbonim and gedolim (which by the way you are going to go go to hell for because you have no makom to judge or say lashon hora aout them) but there were counless other incedents where concetration camp escappees were not believed about the atrocities done in the camps the fact that the person who denied the claims this time was a rabbi is totally irrelevant. and you only brought it up because of your own personal opinion of rabbonim
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