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Saturday, July 01, 2006

"UOJ - Please Listen. The abuse of power, molestation, and cover-up that you know about does not allow you to rest peacefully....."

A Sophisticated Reader Writes And UOJ Responds.

I'd like to comment on the many opinions being offered whether the good that UOJ has accomplished is being "offset" by the bad.

UOJ - please listen. I can tell from some of your recent comments that you really care. The abuse of power, molestation, and cover-up that you know about does not allow you to rest peacefully. You have been very successful in changing our culture to some degree over the last months. Suddenly, a topic that was never spoken about is on the tips of our tongues. Yeshivas are wary of you. The organizations are on the lookout. The climate is right for change.

As you successfully point out the hypocrisy and evil in our midst, you and many other commenters should make a strong effort to:

1. Use appropriate language instead of the lexicon now used.

2. Attack only those that truly deserve to be attacked - the abusers of power and the molesters. The potshots taken at rabbonim, rabbayim, or even laymen that we have seen on this blog is not appropriate and needs to be curtailed.

3. Stop ridiculing anyone (including this commenter) who calls for a more civil discourse. I believe that most of us are parents. We would be the first to instruct our children that two wrongs do not make a right. We can't justify the feeling of gossip, frivolity and laxity that this blog is identified with on the basis that we are taking up a higher cause - especially when we can accomplish the same thing without resorting to these tactics.

Let's fight the issue of molestation in a strong, take-no-prisoners type of way, but keep foul language, off color, and insulting remarks out of the dialogue. I believe that as you call for a higher level of Judaism - a yearning for the holy religion that it once was - it is a critical error to allow and foster this type of dialogue which decreases individual holiness. As a group, the effect is contagious and more devastating.

UOJ, I respectfully ask you and your readers to think before you respond with knee jerk reactions. Please consider my words which are heartfelt.

I must specifically comment on Rav Elchonon Wasserman. Despite your strong feelings about the decision that Rav Elchonon made, going after him so harshly has left a bad taste in many people's mouths. Now, you have said that we should not read your blog if we don't like your opinions. You are missing the point which is that we like what you are doing. You are important to us. We would like to visit your blog which is the only vehicle where we can have an open discussion about abuse. However, we respect certain boundaries that you have crossed. It is very simple for you to tell us to leave the blog, but you would lose many interested and loyal supporters. Please reconsider your adamant position on certain Gedolim that you have severely criticized.

Regarding R' Elchanan, perhaps your point could have been that people aren't perfect and that you believe that his advice was wrong and that even Rav Elchonon may have realized this. You could extend that further with the Art Scroll type biographies where Gedolim are superhuman and explain why you believe that is dangerous. But the manner that you attacked him, conveys a message that G-D forbids R' Elchanan is in the same category as a Margulies. This is unequivocally wrong. As mentioned, the blog should criticize and publicize the real abusers - not Gedolim or laymen that make mistakes or are imperfect in one way or another.

To the readers:

It is time to get involved. Following the blog and making clever comments is not very difficult. Meanwhile, UOJ is fighting a one man battle. Are you ready to advocate for the independent board that UOJ has spoken about? Would you dare challenge your Yeshiva if an issue of abuse came up? It is easy to feel comfortable on this blog with UOJ as your super hero. It is convenient to wait for UOJ to "take down" the next molester, but where are the parents? You need to get involved in real life. I believe that UOJ has been saying that of late, but I haven't seen any responses. I'd like to see readers respond by name - no more hiding behind anonymous - and offer to support a parent advocacy group.

Let's continuously examine and reexamine our motives. It is easy to insult those who critique this blog, it is much more difficult to absorb good advice even if it is coming from those that you disagree with.

Let's clean up this blog so that it can be a place that we would be proud to take our children to visit. Let's support UOJ by becoming involved parents. Let's move forward by continuing with the positive aspects of this blog while filtering out the negative aspects that we know in our heart of hearts has no place in our very important dialogue.

UOJ RESPONDS:

The pain that all thinking people feel as well as the outrage, is expressed by myself and thousands of readers of this blog. Going through literally thousands of comments and e-mails per week, I am able to put up only a fraction of the comments and read only some of the e-mails. The one time I took off comment moderation as a test, there were 1030 comments until I started moderating again. Unprecedented in Blog history; Jewish or otherwise.

You do make some excellent points and your sincerity has captured the attention of my non-UOJ persona.

I am guilty...guilty of letting it take years for me to transform my mild mannered personality into the "wild-man" UOJ. I'm watching this Jim Jones like behavior for years while trying gently to make a difference by attending board meetings, writing essays, donating large sums of money, all with the proper intent to get a system in the yeshivas and Rabbanut that is guided by the beauty of our Torah. Not a system governed by individual needs, not beautiful edifices, not ostentatious dinners and conventions...simply a system run by yirei Hashem with no other interest than the needs of the klal first, foremost and only!

Instead, we have a system that is corrupt from the mail-room person up to the decision-makers, and everyone in between. How did we get here? Where did this disease of abuse of power and utter corruption come from? Are we students of our holy Torah or are we just a bunch of people dressed in dark clothing, hats, wigs, and tzitzis? (some fools wear more than one pair at a time)

The answer my friends, is the pass we gave to our rabbis that are no more than mortal humans. They have the same temptations that all of us have, and many of them, not all, fall victim to their humanity. They steal, they cheat, they are corrupt. You know why? There is no system of checks and balances that all humanity requires. They are the rabbis/gedolim...who is going to keep them in check?

We have erred. We have turned our rabbis into Gods..they are not, not at all. They are influenced and corrupted by money and power just as we are. We are scrutinized by our peers, they get a pass.

Therefore the trembling anger I have displayed towards R' Elchonon Wasserman. He was a Torah giant; but he was not God, just a mere human, fallible just like any other human. Was he brilliant in Torah? Absolutely! Therefore what exactly? A student wants to escape Nazi Germany...and he writes him back to stay put? Pikuach nefesh replaces a personal theory or opinion that "Y.U.", R' Yitzckok Elchonon in those days, is more dangerous to his talmidim than Hitler? Rabbi Gedalya Schorr and Mike Tress obtain hundreds of visas for his talmidim and he tells them, NO THANKS!?

I was sitting at the hospital bed several years ago of a true "tzaddik gamur"; he was nebach at the end of his life. He was at one of the meetings where his family hosted a reception to honor R' Elchonon in the late 1930's. I was holding his frail, trembling hand as he described to me what transpired after that meeting. The host and the hostess threw themselves at the feet of R' Elchonon in the living room, sobbing and begging uncontrollably...pleading with him NOT to go back to Europe, and to bring his talmidim to the United States.

R' Elchonon was trance-like...he wouldn't budge. "HE KNEW WHAT HASHEM WANTED!" He in fact played God...thousands died against the wishes of Hashem, which commanded us to violate Yom Kippur, Shabbos, Kashrut...do everything one must do to save a single life! For everyone's information, what Art Scroll will NOT tell you, is that Rav Yitzchok Scheiner, the present Rosh Hayeshiva of Kaminetz in Israel, was a talmid of Y.U. at that time. Not too shabby a black hatter I might comment. He was right up there on the infamous list of fools banning Noson Slifkin's works.

So my passion is, in my opinion, well-founded, rooted in common sense and Torah inspired fact. No Chassidic rebbe or any rabbi has Godly powers, they are mere mortals. Remember we are Jews NOT Christians; there are NO intemediaries in our religion. WE have a direct line to God, not one bit less than a person who is wearing eighty pairs of tzitzis, fur hats, round hats, square hats, velvet ones, silk jackets, white Kabbalah coats or any of the cult-like dress that we have succumbed to like children lost in a store full of toys and costumes.

We have let the Pied-Pipers flute us into a generation of meaningless rituals and chumras that are nothing more than the works of dangerous and foolish power grabbers.
Some rabbis do this intentionally, and some are led to this madness by a circle of their leidegayers; people who are human parasites..eating off the flesh of the naive and trusting. When I met with R' Shteinman, to find out that he knew nothing of a virus called herpes, only for him to categorize the New York Dept.of Health as Goyim out to destroy Judaism, I knew this gedolim thing has to go.

When R' Shmuel Kaminetzky responded in the Kolko matter, that we MUST assume Kolko did t'shuva if a recent victim, that was not victimized in the last few months, did NOT come forward, I knew that it was a mitzva to come out with the heavy artillery; lawsuits, secular media, private investigators, the D.A....and anything else I can think of to bring to light the cesspool of leaders that we have selected to guide us through difficult times. When Aaron Twerski disgraces the very essence of our intellect by calling Lipa Margulies an honorable man...there is no stopping me!

So I am upset to the point of being a " crazy person" and every other adjective my detractors can think of. But my accounting will be given to Hashem, not some earthly human; and whenever that day comes, I will go proudly, knowing full well my intentions were pure; no money, plaques, chicken dinners, or any other human reward. I do not want to sully any reward I may or may not get from my Creator.

There will be more...much, much more; this Thursday I will go public with the next yeshiva cover-up and their in-house molester. I will not stop until we have an abuse-free yeshiva system and that includes their enablers.

I will let God judge me and my language; after all, I am human and have shortcomings. I'm willing to take that chance.

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gross said...

If Osama bin Laden were to stand up for Breast Cancer Awareness and raise millions of dollars, that would not make him a hero

Perhaps, but if the American Cancer Society was ignoring breast cancer entirely and OBL single handedly accomplished what they hadn't (and what they purposely ignored) then yes, that might be heroic. Tuvya, what the hell have you done??

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Re: Frumteens

Sicker than sick. I read some of the link and I almost vomited when a teen who admitted to having been a victim of molestation, declared that she (or he) feels sorry for the perpetrator because he must have a strong Yetzer Hora. The "Moderator" just let that slide...

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Re: Mitnick

He's a putz that treads on dangerous ground. I remember when the youth-at-risk scam was just getting started and Mitnick had a contest with some of the young boys that went something like this: If you refrain from masturbating for a specific period of time you are awarded a prize!

Auto Report World Editors said...

Tuvya,

You so vividly exemplify how frummies practice Ahavat Yisrael. "Losers", "Lowlifes", and worst of all "Modern Orthodox". It's interesting how you frummies love to put down other Jews whom they feel do not meet their high standards of frumkeit. I'm trying to find the "lowlife exemption" to the mitzvah of Ahavat Yisrael but I cannot find it. You being such a monumental Jewish scholar, perhaps you could point me to it.

If I say that NYC is no more decadent than Rome or Ur, frummies will insist that today's depravity exceeds past perversions so involvement in the secular world is that much more spiritually dangerous now than in the past. Rome may have publicly executed women by having them mounted by a stallion but that pales in terms of depraved behavior when compared to a 13 year old yeshiva bochur with an email account. How such pious holy Jews are so familiar with the depths of today's depravity remains a mystery but they insist that this generation is the most depraved ever. Yeridos HaDoros they say.

Taking them at their word, if I say, "Hmmmm. Yeridot HaDorot? So that means that our leaders, the gedolim of today, are puny compared to earlier generations, right?", and Tuvias across the globe get apoplectic at how "mevazeh" I am to today's chachamim.

Tuvia, you are more interested in being frum than being Jewish.

Signed,

Bitter, lowlife loser.

PS. Tuvia, us bitter lowlife losers need role models to do tshuvah. Perhaps you can share with us how you have used Torah to overcome sin, bad behavior or a character flaw.

Auto Report World Editors said...

A bit OT, but appropriate for the day.

My rabbi taught me that Hakarat HaTov (or as he puts it, Hakoros HaTov) is the most fundamental of mitzvot. There are a few minutes left before midnight so let me take the opportunity to thank our Founding Fathers and the Creator who endowed them with inspiration and insight to create a society that recognizes the essential humanity of us all.

As a guy from Texas put it, liberty is not America's gift to the world but rather God's gift to mankind.

Of course, today's 'gedolim' would never sign off on the First Amendment. You can't put a blog in cherem or bankrupt its author by banning it.

Anonymous said...

Hey what about all the girls that get molested by yeshiva guys? I was raped by one of the "great" men you mentioned on this site's brother but his mother was killed in a car accident and his niece is divorced because her husband raped her so I can't hold a grudge. I guess abuse has a patern.

Thank you for publishing this blog I thing the important thing to do is not to focus on the abuse but what can be done to help people become stronger and healthier people. Maybe we should send them back to kindergarten and make them watch Barney videos they can do what they want with a barney blow up doll but leave holy pure Jewish souls alone. They are the reason I am afraid to have children and stay single for that reason even though I have been proposed to over 11 times.

Un-Orthodox Jew said...

PEOPLE IN TORONTO ARE URGED TO GO TO THE POLICE!
LEIZEROWITZ IS HIDING AT WAISBROD!




Waisbrod, Avrum

416-785-9737

work: 416-661-7781

122 barse street

toronto Ontario M5M 4L4

Auto Report World Editors said...

UOJ,

Ever notice how they never tell me how to change bad behavior? They can't cite a single frum Jew who has done tshuvah. Is that because frum Jews never behave badly? Or because frum Jews never change their behavior for the better? Or maybe, just maybe, it's because frummies don't really believe in the concept of tshuvah. They'd rather see people punished so they, the frummies, can feel that they are the holy ones. And the rest of us, because we unconciously regard frummies as authentic Jews, absorb that attitude as well. I see that here in some of the comments by erstwhile UOJ supporters about Jews who have acted badly. Who's to say that some of the felons mentioned here haven't done real tshuvah?

Frummies also don't believe in dan l'chaf zechut. Oh sure, for a prominent school rebbe accused of something heinous they will use pretzel logic to attack the accusers, but for a blogger driven to distraction by those who have made puny the biggest thing in the universe they will know exactly the parameters by which the Chafetz Chayim allegedly permits them to destroy his life. There is no dan l'chaf zechut from Tuvia for UOJ.

Anonymous said...

uoj is not a rasha, even if he thought you played ball on Sundays.

He wished you could have a big house on Bedford Avenue. He is a very nice guy, charming, gracious, without pretense. He isn't, however, an idiot. You can pasul him all you want, as can any of the greats (are there really any?) in Flatbush, but to think houses are cleaned through quiet diplomacy is unrealistic. He is our watchdog, our pet, uoj. He's not been trained to roll over and play dead. He isn't seeking kavod for himself. He's damaging others with his mouth, with this blog, it is true, and if he is a rosho, then so am I. But, truth is on his side even if you don't appreciate what he says about certain "gedoilim."

A court case will reveal the truth; without uoj, this would never have happened. And worse, he has other issues on his agenda: fraud, corruption, dishonesty, some imagined, perhaps, some almost certainly real. These are public funds, public trust. Who protects the public, R' D.C. or "hevel pihem shel tinnokois shel Bais Rabban?"

Cut him some slack. Hevel piv has merit too.

Un-Orthodox Jew said...

Protest the house and the shul:

Toronto Shteeble of Ger:
3389 Bathurst street

Auto Report World Editors said...

Hey what about all the girls that get molested by yeshiva guys? I was raped by one of the "great" men you mentioned on this site's brother...

They are the reason I am afraid to have children and stay single for that reason even though I have been proposed to over 11 times.


Dear Anonymous,

Please do not let the past control your future. My sister unfortunately lost a daughter to cancer and went on to have another child. Becoming a parent indeed means stepping off a precipice and the angst over your kids' well being never stops. I see that in my own admittedly dysfunctional relationship w/ my mother as well as in my hopefully better relationship with my kids. But what's the alternative? Ending the human race?

I have a scar on my chin, like many males. I got mine learning how to ride a bike when I was 5. I have a scar on my knee that's a bit longer. I also got that riding a bike - in this case riding to work when I was in my late 40s and I did something stupid and lost a contest of physics with a SUV. When my kids learned to ride bikes I knew that they might get hurt on a bike, either then or at some time in the future. The still learned to ride.

When I cut off my son's foreskin I knew that in different times and places that was the equivalent of a price on his head. The thought actually passed through my head during the bris. Do we stop being Jews just because some folks like to hate us?

If you've been proposed to that many times you most likely have many wonderful qualities and middot and are 'of pleasing description'. You deserve to feel love and have the chance to raise children. Living like a nun will give your abuser control over your life. Don't let him live in your head rent free. Live your own life. Have joy.

NP: Grateful Dead - Hundred Year Hall

Auto Report World Editors said...

But let us not forget that the Unorthodox Jew blog did not start out dealing with the issue at hand, it started out looking to bring down the Gedolim and everything the true Torah life stands for and all who stand for it.

Dear Anonymous Tuvia Fan,

I wonder if you would identify all those whom you consider to be Gedolim today. Please list them, along with their qualifications for being a Godol. For example, their CV, publications, significant accomplishments, major chiddushim, etc. Please also provide for each an example of what you consider to be leadership. Please also indicate if family ties had anything to do with their positions.

Also, if you would, please explain how the concepts of da'as Torah and da'as chachamim as practiced by today's frum community, as practiced by you and Tuvya, differs from how members of cults treat the teachings of the cult leaders. I know frum yeshivish (not chasidish) Jews who believe that they have to ask a rav about anything they do. How different is that from a cult member? Note that I am not saying that frummies act like cult members. I'm raising the question and asking you to show how they are not.

[yeah, the spellings on Tuvya The Frummie With A Siezed Sphincter's name aren't consistent. Sue me.]

x gerrorist said...

Un-Orthodox Jew said...
PEOPLE IN TORONTO ARE URGED TO GO TO THE POLICE!
LEIZEROWITZ IS HIDING AT WAISBROD!




Waisbrod, Avrum

416-785-9737

work: 416-661-7781

122 barse street

toronto Ontario M5M 4L4

July 04, 2006
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uoj ,
nice and efficient detective work.
keep up the holy work.
i sure someone has the brains to contact the canadian police and interpol.

Anonymous said...

"he is a scum."

Our gedoilim speak this way?

Scum is plural.

Jewish Survivors Of Sexual Violence said...

It seems like most of the cases on this blog being discussed involve male survivors, I figured this article could be helpful.

When Men Are Victims
http://theawarenesscenter.org/WhenMen.html

We are all going around and around attacking each other. I understand why it's happening yet I also what to suggest that we talk about things that help survivors heal.

We all know how important it is to report sexual crimes to the police. We also know that for things to change we need to advocate for survivors to file civil suits, and lobby for better laws.

There are many survivors reading this blog that are terrifide. They want to speak out, yet are afraid of the long term ramifications it could have on them and their family members.

What can we do to help them?

How can we help empower them so they can live "normal," healthy lives?

My fantasy is that every time a survivor would walk into a room everyone would satnd up and applaud them for surviving horrendous experiences!

Think about it, isn't that what we do for those who survived 9-11 or are veterans of war?

Wouldn't it be great if we could honor them by having a Survivor of Sexual Violence Day Parade?

I personally believe that all survivors of sexual abuse and assault NEED to be honored and respected.

What do you think?

Tuvyah said...

Gross,

YOu are cut from the same cloth as UOJ. You find somehow some way to insult anyone who happens to disagree with your worldview. (For example, frumteens = sicker than sick. Mitnick = putz.How this jibes with UOJ calling him a good guy, I dont know.)

As far as the guy up there (I think the editor) who was insulted about knocking the modern orthodox. My intention was not to equate lowlifes, losers, and modern orthodox (MO) people. Rather, the point was to say that the motives and agenda of those posting here are suspect and not l'shem shomayim. The losers are bitter and want to bring others down with them. The lowlifes will do anything for a juicy piece of gossip and the MO's have issues with the supremacy of the Torah and talmidei chachomim. So they are more than happy, for their own reasons, to knock the Torah and those who represent it. The sicko UOJ is likely a combination of these 3 (notwithstanding the fact that I am pleased that some molestors have been exposed)

Regarding changing behavior and doing teshuva, for starters I would recommend the mesilas yesharim who offers a stepwise progression as to how to come closer to G-d via behavioral change. Just keep in mind that in one of the earlier stages he writes that an impediment is to be in the company of leitzim (cynics, scoffers, and skeptics).

May we both surround ourselves with g-d fearing people who find true meaning in life and will be inspirational role models.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone have information regarding a Rabbi Tzvi Axelman? He was originally from Baltimore, MD. He moved to Israel back in the late 1990's. There were accusations made about him and boys in the yeshiva in Neve Yaakov.

He left Israel (I heard chased out).

He's currently going by the name of Rabbi Steven Axeman and is conservative rabbi of a shul in Queens. He has gone by several names. He is known as Howard Axelman, Tzvi Axelman and Steven Axelman. He also has a masters degree in social work.

Anonymous said...

tuvyah said: The losers are bitter and want to bring others down with them.

I'm pleased u finaly got the drift of this blog. You are right that many of us are losers - we lost out on our youth and childhood when these rabbis molested us, and with the great UOJs help we will bring down those molesters AND enablers who have destroyed our lives forever. And to the holier-than-though idiot who lectured us about chas visholom taking revenge not fully leshem shomayim, that limitation is irrelevant when it pertains to the victims themselves and/or the rabbis who heard the victim's testimony. As far as loshon hora goes I believe I chalenged u, dear tuvyah, to a point by point debate right here and u failed to address the issues halachacly or at all for that matter.

Whats the matter tuvyah'le scared to debate a loser/victim on the merits of this issue?

Why am I thinking u have a vested interest in protecting the perverts? Your style of writing suggests u have posted previously under a different name and u are consitintly pro pervert even though u hide the fact by subtly hinting in parenthises that u r happy molesters get caught. Lame sidebar on your part but I'll ignore that for now and look forward to u responding to my halachic points.

Rest in peace Tuvia, and with 80 pairs of tzitzis embroidered with the slogan NO PENETRATION...NO VIOLATION.

Yes I'm mad cause I'm a victim and u attack the one person who stands up for us. UOJ does a heck of alot more than run this blog. He helps victims with the day to day trials and challanges a molested kid suffers with for a life time. How dare u denigrate one u helps the downtrodden and fights for the rights and dignity every child is entitled to. Address me u putz and tell me why I deserve to suffer from your calous and cold criticism. G-d is the father of the orphans and widows as well as those others with no one to turn to and yes UOJ here to help g-d. Does not the torah say that one who cares for g-d's children will merit g-d's care themselves?

boog said...

Tuyva;

You must have a nice view up there in your Ivory Tower.

I'm sure all the molested take great solace and comfort in your comment "...that I am pleased that some molestors have been exposed".

I'm sure you would have had 'issues' with Pinchos and his actions, had you been there.

Your disconnect from reality and holier than thou attitude is symptomatic of your brand of Orthodox Judaism and a major contributor to the problems we face today.

Kurt Rothschild said...

Waisbrod gives the morning daf shiur at Rabbi Lowy's Agudah.

The Address on Barse St is the same given for D'Ancona's charitable trust.

The work tel.# supplied by UOJ corresponds to:

PLAYBACK ELECTRONICS

This company normally sells wholesale but they will sell to the public. They stock such items such as fax machines, VCR’s, TV’s, portable stereos and more. Brand names include Sony, Panasonic and Samsung.

Address: 358 Flint Road, Downsview, Ontario, M3J 2J4

(Dufferin Street & Finch Avenue)

Phone: (416) 661-7781

Open: Mon. to Fri. 9 - 4

Payment Method: Visa, Direct Payment, Cash.

Gangster Land said...

After reading about it here, I asked my rov about Mendel Epstein. He didn't get into details, but he says that he is a thug.

Southern Discomfort said...

Tuvia,

UOJ was able to do what your gedolin were not, and this is to stop Kolko from rubbing his penis against young boys’ body (penetration or otherwise).

Furthermore, UOJ made people to take a notice and maybe some children were save from molestation.

What did you do for Klal Yisroel ?

Moishe Binik said...

How does Gross know about the comments attributed to Mitnick? Was he there himself or did he hear it alleged by some problematic kid?

It's not like those troubled kids from Playboy Billiards on Coney or from that hangout on Ave M are entirely reliable.

Dov Wallowitz said...

Don't give money to any yeshiva shielding molesters or who refuse to utilize the sex offender registry.

http://www.shemayisrael.co.il/orgs/rejew/buck2.htm

To quote one of the Chachmei Umos Ha'olam, "We have met the enemy, and he is us!"

The solution lies in a bottom-up effort to improve the system. Parents must become educated Torah consumers. I once heard Reb Dov Wallowitz, a very prominent supporter of Torah, speak at a dinner of one of the great Yeshivos. He said that he asked Rav Shach shlita how to decide where to give his Tzedakah money. In short, Rav Shach told him that just like a pair of Tefillin could be beautiful, and even perhaps have much sentimental value - maybe it was given to you by your great-grandfather, a big Tzadik - but upon investigation it can have one small slit in a "vuv" that disqualifies it, so too there are institutions that appear beautifully "mehudar," but upon scrutiny are flawed. There are others who may be somewhat "worn out," simple, and unspectacular, but 100% kosher, and worthwhile repositories for your Tzedakah dollar.

The Torah says that the "hamon am" will wield tremendous power in our generation. As members of the "hamon am," we therefore wield, believe it or not, a tremendous power, and therefore, tremendous responsibility. We decide where are children are going to go to Yeshivah; we decide where our Tzedakah money will go; we create our neighbors' reputations.

When we learn to make those decisions wisely, the "system" will change.

Saul Berman said...

So do all two face rabbis have to start watching their backs because of UOJ?

Steven Axelman said...

Is someone looking for me? I am also the principle of the Conservative Hebrew school at the above link.

And a picture of me is the link below:

http://www.northeastqueensjewish.org/Statements/Releases/2004-10-31.htm

I happen to know to Queens DA. I wonder what he would think.

Anonymous said...

Rabbi Wolfson, the mashgiach of Torah V'daas has stated publicly that there are no more "Gedolim". It's on a tape.

Anonymous said...

Poor Tuvia can't describe who gedolim are and what makes a gadol, because "The Making of a Gadol" was banned so he couldn't read it.

But instead of telling us all to read Mesillas Yesharim, I think he was asked for an example of Tshuvah that he has done. For example has he considereed how much Onnas Devorim and pain he has caused to the hundreds of victims of sexual abuse, including myself, by attacking UOJ who is our ONLY defender? I believe he owes me and all other victims an apology. He's too busy criticizing, ponitificating and being "holier than thou" like many rabbis today, to actually give a damn about people's suffering. Reb Tuvya, what does the Mesillas yesharim say about Midos Achzarius?

Anonymous said...

I would love a parade. I think it's a great idea. I did absolutely NOTHING wrong. I was a victim of a violent crime. I would love for everyone in the world to honor me for surviving.

There was just something on the news about a boy who was attacked by a shark. He lost a leg. He's been very down with his experience. When he finally went back to school there was an assembly for him. The cheerleaders made up special routines just for him.

Wouldn't it be great if survivors of childhood sexual abuse had an assembly and everyone cheered them on too?

Anonymous said...

tuvyah, darling.

surely you know the possuk, al tochach leitz.

You should not be here. You must leave this blog and do teshuvah. Read Mesilas Yesharim on blogging. Don't stand up for uoj on the train.

You represent the ytt way.

Anonymous said...

Convicted Drug Trafficker Shot In Hotel Elevator

Toronto, Canada

A man sentenced in New York for masterminding an ecstasy smuggling ring using Orthodox Jews to get millions of pills through the world's airports was shot three times in an elevator of a Toronto luxury hotel after a drug deal went awry.

When Toronto police were called to the 1,000-roon waterfront Westin Harbour Castle, they found one man bleeding from gunshot wounds, another who had been handcuffed by his assailants and a woman who was with them. Four kilograms of cocaine, with an estimated street value of $400,000, hidden in an ice dispenser, were also uncovered.
Sean Erez, a 36-year-old Quebec man, was shot in the stomach and legs, investigators say. He survived, but has been charged with drug trafficking. Mr. Erez, an Israeli-Canadian, pleaded guilty in Brooklyn, NY in 2001 to conspiracy to import ecstasy into the U.S. He admitted he recruited young Orthodox Jews to smuggle more than a million pills to the U.S. from 1998 to 1999, the pills were hidden under the Chasidic hats.

Anonymous said...

He targeted young Yeshiva bochurim en-route to Yeshiva and they didn't even know that they doing something wrong. Of course, it's a big mitzvah to bash the Chasidim at every open opportunity.

Anonymous said...

JULY 05, 2006

The Truth About Rabbis

A woman who heads an Orthodox women's organization is told by a university student that a rabbi on the university's staff has molested her. The student says:

“I was broken, and I cried day and night,” the student, who wishes to remain anonymous, says. “I had reached out for help, and I was thrown into a deep, dark pit. I had never touched a man before that, and no man had ever touched me.”
The organization offers a deal to the rabbi – remove yourself and we will stay silent, if not we go public. The rabbi does not answer. Soon the rabbi’s lawyer sends a letter threatening to sue for libel. In addition, a long list of public figures, professors and rabbis, come out in support of the accused.

Nevertheless, an investigation ensues and the rabbi is dismissed. Later, a prominent rabbinic supporter of the fired rabbi becomes dean of a college at which the woman who heads the women's organization has taught for 12 years. Her hours are immediately cut and she is threatened with dismissal. It seems to be clear retaliation. The case winds up in court, and is yet to be decided. The woman has this to say about the ordeal she has been through:

“The message for women is: Next time, don’t confront a rabbi, because if you do, you’ll pay a price. Over the years, I have lost many good friends. Neighbors who were like family no longer speak to me. This is a war in the religious world.”
The first university? Bar Ilan. The second? Orot Yisrael College. The message? Rabbis often behave like thugs.

boog said...

Tuvyah;

Did a re-check and note that your writing style and phraseology mirrors that of "Lakewood Yid".

Auto Report World Editors said...

Tuvya,

Please reread my post. I asked for an example of how you have done tshuvah. I'm well aware of Mesilat Yesharim, and have studied it on my own and with a rav. I want to know how you have applied these concepts in your own life. Or have you never done tshuva or corrected a character flaw?

You would have been one of the guys putting Ramchal in cherem.

I'm still waiting for your citation on the lowlife exemption to Ahavas Yisrael.

Tuvyah said...

Anonymous said...
tuvyah, darling.

surely you know the possuk, al tochach leitz.

I do. And my comments are not in the spirit of tochacha. They are meant to expose the moron for who he is and this ragsheet for what it is. I have no intentions of stopping.

I am at work now, but one quick point for now. If the jerk would focus on the real issues, he would get so much more accomplished. By attacking anything and anyone, he made himself into a pariah who noone will deal with.

Let me just give a small example. He e-mails Gottesman (who by the way is not formally a part of Torah Umesorah) to do something about molestors. I am aware of Gottesman. He would do anything to rid schools of molestors. But here is the problem.

Because UOJ is mivazeh talmidie chachomim,

Because UOJ has tried to ruin people with ubstantiated allegations,

Because UOJ maintains the ragsheet where anyone is fodder for disparaging remarks

And because UOJ has his moshav leitzim crew--the unholy trinity (losers, lowlifes, and modern orthodox) to spout their agenda,
He has earned himself a reputation as a vile human being, a jerk, and a despicable character. So noone wants to associate with him. Rather than respecting the work that he does, people hate him. So what do you expect..of course Gottesman and all others are not going to associate with him.

Auto Report World Editors said...

Rest in peace Tuvia, and with 80 pairs of tzitzis embroidered with the slogan NO PENETRATION...NO VIOLATION.

And that is one piece of embroidery this rokem will never do.

Auto Report World Editors said...

Right. Those chassidim had no idea something was up when a guy offered them large amounts of cash to carry pills under their hats. Perhaps you would have us believe that the chassidim in question were so insular that they thought this was normal behavior in the secular velt.

Anonymous said...

a victim of leizerowitz who can not sleep at night wants to know if anybody has more info on him thank you uoj for helping bring this pervert down

Anonymous said...

"Because UOJ has tried to ruin people with ubstantiated allegations,"
---------

Please specify.

Un-Orthodox Jew said...

So Gottesman would do anything to get rid of molesters, but since the information comes from UOJ he does nothing. The biggest crock of shit since Aaron Twerski calling Margulies a "man of honor."

The Rebbetzin said...

Tuvyah


Do you know the Possuk, I am an ignorant jealous Jew who wishes he had the courage to be like UOJ?

This is the possuk that comes right after "You don't even know you are lying"

Is it ignorance? Is it brainwashing? It is disgusting.

I am so sick of veiled supposedly religious put down artists like yourself, who quote from the Torah.

What have you done to help the victims? Tell me what have you yourself done tuvyah to help one victim who was molested????

UOJ, I admore your work and dedication, just know that there are many of us who support you 100 per cent and are thrilled that we have a leader like you in our mist instead of the covert evildoers that reign in Orthodoxy under the auspices of "I'm a religious Jew"

Blech!

boog said...

Tuvyah;

Al Teeye Tzadik Harbeh: Koheles, 7.

Rhodes Scholar said...

Boog,

Tuvya is much more articulate than the blogger known as Lakewood Yid. Lakewood Yid has a low IQ as well whose posts amount to poppycock which obviates the need to even debate him.

William Bennett said...

It's pretty obvious that "Tuvya" doesn't give a damn one way or the other about molestation victims. The reason he is here is because he is waging a PR campaign on behalf of Leib Pinter or some other Hungarian crook who has no other way of stopping UOJ from broadcasting various misdeeds.

"Tuvya", you phony, tell us what your last name is if remaining anonymous is such a sin as you claim.

TorontoYid said...

Can someone please spell out what
this Laizerowitz guy exactly did?
Putting a kid on your lap won't get
the Toronto Police to do anything!
Did he penetrate? Are there victims
who will come forward? Is he
being sought after by U.S.
authorities? Can they request
extradition? Is there a D.A. on
the case to contact?
Lets get to the nuts and bolts here! The Toronto Police are a bunch of potzs as is! They'll
laugh in my face if I call
them right now!

Dick Thornburgh said...

There were also a bunch of (mostly chassidisha) bums in Mir Yerusahlayim who were courier mules for gold smugglers. They were flying to Zurich & Geneva and back as often as Margo polishes off a tray of kugel. Someone tipped off the Mishtara who moved in to arrest them, but many of them managed to skip the country before the police raids.

Some of them got so greedy that they loaded as much as 80+ pounds of bullion into the specialized vests which forced them to walk around the airport like hunched over robots. Some of them were stopped by authorities for this strange behavior but if it was on the Swiss side they were not arrested because it's not illegal to export gold.

These Hungarians get an early start in yeshiva for their careers in crime.

The Agudah Taliban Faction said...

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:_7zmzm32j04J:www.ozny.org/lister.aspx%3Fl%3Dclasses+%22shlomo+gottesman%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=12

We have to look into possibly removing Shlomo Gottesman from our ranks.

He gives a shiur in Nevuah at "O.Z." on the Upper West Side on Tues nights.

Tues night is singles night. The shiur and evening in general is meant for mingling of the sexes.

Anonymous said...

speaking for the lowlife losers, anyone who refuses to work with uoj is a liar.

They have other matters of delicate concern to cover up.

They know that UOJ's primary agenda is uncovering nakedness - and they are naked. If not them, then those who administer them. Honest individuals, whether or not they learn, understand that the great deterrent against fraud is public humiliation, embaressment, loss of prestige, valuables. Most people do not steal, but unwatched, they do. The yetser hara is great and great Toireh moisdois have secrets.

"Working with" UOJ is the path to self destruction, whether you care or do not care about those abused. His agenda transcends homo activities. He's not just a Chossid basher, but an honest man. They're dangerous.

And now, for our sponsor, a word of Mussar: if you were compulsively honest, tuvi, you wouldn't be stealing from your employer by playing mahblog on his time. But, this is for the klal, you say; you aren't going away.

Losers and lowlives have time to waste. You should get back to work.

UOJ should too and move on from New York magazine.

Your friend,

a frum lowlife loser

Anonymous said...

You see, there are plenty of goyim that make Jews like Kolko look like idiots. If Kolko had an iota of Jenkin's brains, he wouldn't be where he is today:

From today's Washington Post Online:

Castration a solution for sex offenders?
Man who mutilated himself in jail thinks so, but debate continues
By Candace Rondeaux

Mail Yudi a box cutter!

Anonymous said...

Lets call this mikvah meeting to order -first someone get me my scotch on the rocks and the we'll talk business.

Sol Zalcgendler said...

Speaking of OZ, it's pretty funny to see heimisher horndogs show up from Boro Park looking to pick up modern orthodox women when we have a party in the shul. Too bad for these guys that the women have no interest in them.

Anonymous said...

Tuvia,

Here is my take. On the whole, you are wrong. Plain and simple.

The charges that UOJ has brought against molesters are indeed substantiated. Kolko, Leizorowitz, Colmer, Nussbaum, etc. Do you believe that they are guilty or, at the very least, that they have had a KOL following them around for years? So there goes your claim that somehow UOJ is destroying innocent people by publicly declaring then molesters.

UOJ is bringing things to our attention that, for the most part, the entire frum community has known about for years and years; but, because of the abuse of our beautiful Torah has been permitted to continue and fester in our very midst.

You declare that UOJ allows unsubstantiated allegations. I believe that others have expressed their concernn regarding comments that we have seen on this blog that seem to get out of hand from time to time. That is a valid point, but has nothing to do with the fact that UOJ has been correct on every single molester that he has exposed. He has single- handedly brought about their downfall.

You say that Klal Yisroel exists because of Talmidei Chachomim. I have news for you. Many of the people that UOJ has gone after are leaders/talmidei chachomim in form, but not in substance. Surely, these are not the "talmidei chachomim" that klal yisroel exists because of. When UOJ attacks those he shouldn't, that is unequivocaly wrong. However, there are some who have been attacked who you may think are being unfairly attacked, but whom UOJ may have obtained information about that he believes disqualifies them from their exalted leadership status. I am not saying that I always agree with his tactics, but it is easy to throw around the phrase "Mivazeh Talmidei Chachomim" without first examining whether the people in question are truly qualified for their titles.

Your beautiful midos are exemplified as you state that "anyone can make allegations" and that "the court case has not yet begun" followed by "Let us wait and see what happens." You seem to be hoping that Kolko walks out of court a free man. After all, it is only allegations...

Your polls, if true, further prove how our community is so numb to the pain of the victims - yes, they are real, living, human beings who have gone through unimaginable TZAR - as to necessitate the creation of UOJ to wake all of us up from our slumber.


Have you put yourself into the shoes of the victims before you arrived at your ill-informed conclusions or are you such a kanoi for Torah that, in your zeal, you simply forgot that the victims existed?

Lowlifes, losers, and the modern orthodox - those few modern orthodox jews who are still left in our pristine environment - your words, shameful words. Sorry, Tuvia, the great environmentalist, that these second class citizens are polluting your atmposphere. Perhaps you should find a cabin where you will not have to deal with these horrible jews or perhaps you may be thinking about the next Final Solution.

Modern Orthodox Jews - Is it specifically religous Zionism that bothers you? Rav Kook? Rav Solevetchik? Rav Herschel Schachter? Please specify as I am sure the readers of the blog are waiting with bated breath.

"Lowlife and losers" - as mentioned before, there is legitimate criticism that can be leveled at UOJ for allowing the nature of the dialogue to get out of hand at times. There may be a share of readers and participants who are not in here to help, but rather to follow the "gossip." However, the ease in which you engage in broad-stroking an entire readership is truly bothersome, especially coming from someone claiming to aspire to higher standards.

In your quest for zealotry, you have become a true sonei yisroel. It is you who should be turning the pages of the meislas yeshorim and shaarei teshuva. Kol Haposel B'Mumo Posel. You criticize this blog as a ragsheet, yet you have engaged in name calling to the highest degree.

As far as UOJ's motives are concerned (responding to anonymous who supoorts Tuvia), while some of us may not agree with all of UOJ's actions, I believe that UOJ's motives are totally Lishmah. I believe that he is bothered by the leadership void and hypocrisy that has resulted in many severe issues undermining the integrity of Yiddishkeit; running the gamut from corruption, etc. that the earlier blogs focused on and molestation that has been UOJ's singular focus for the past 6 months.

This is far different than a Rasha who kills someone because he hates him (bad intentions), yet is was G-D's will for this to happen - so we say Harbeh Sheluchim L'Makom. Ignorance can be very dangerous. Binah - Mavin Dovor Mitoch Dovor. You must be able to make apt analogies; otherwise your conclusions are faulty. Anonymous, your conclusion is erroneous. UOJ's intentions are pure - perhaps he veers off here and there, but as UOJ himself said "I will let God judge me and my language; after all, I am human and have shortcomings. I'm willing to take that chance."

Wwe can sit back and allow Shafran, Twersky, Margulies and company to continue to spin the news, deceive the public and continue to bring more suffering and pain to the victims. But, haven't the victims suffered enough? Where is your true caring? In fact, where is the true caring of our leaders, our organizations, and even our parents?

Or we can understand that this blog, despite its imperfections, has accomplished wonders and has saved lives. It has brought hope and relief to perhaps thousands of victims.

As the victims' blood continues to flow uninhibited, our proud leaders are more interested in nitpicking minutea from an article that may make their community look bad. How small minded! Don't they realize that G-D, the Yodea Machshovos, sees through this thinly veiled act? How can parents continue to send their children to Torah Temimah?

Now is not the time for business as usual. It is the time to think and act differently - even if it is not part of our personality. There is simply too much at stake. This is what we should learn from UOJ.

Bully Lesser said...

Some of those gold smugglers that escaped Israel came to Lakewood. They rented apartments and sometimes unofficially hung around in the basement otzar but mostly were involved in grey market / black market enterprises.

The Wizard Of Oz said...

I know Rabbi Nussbaum and find it hard to believe he's an abuser, but if he is, I say string him up with Kolko.

What grade does he teach? I would think that the older kids would be able to fight him off as he's about the size of a Munchkin.

Anonymous said...

Contact the family that went to the DA. They are very well known. Trouble is they don't answer the phone much because they are being harassed.

God bless your good soul for trying to help.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
He targeted young Yeshiva bochurim en-route to Yeshiva and they didn't even know that they doing something wrong. Of course, it's a big mitzvah to bash the Chasidim at every open opportunity.
---------------------------------
Do you complain in the same way when someone bashes Livaks too at every opputunity?
How about the modern orthodox?
Or is it just chasidim that you are complaining about?
Go back into your Boro Park Rat hole but dont forget to come up for some Air at nite and to get your pizza slice from Amnons.

Un-Orthodox Jew said...

THE LEIZEROWITZ SICK COVER-UP CONTINUES.................POSTERS AND FLYERS ALL OVER BORO PARK!


ז' תמוז תשס''ו



אוי מה היה לנו !



אהה! מי מלל ומי פלל שנגיע למצב כזה שיעמדו בני בליעל אנשי רשע מתוך מחנינו ומחמת טענות ודברים של מה בכך [אשר כידוע שאין מנוס לאיש חינוך שלא יהיו עליו טענות] ירדו להדיוטא התחתונה להלשין להשלטונות דברי שוא ושקר, שאחר בירור הדברים בבית דין אין לדברים הללו שום שמץ של אמת כלל וכלל, רק טקטיק שפלה של אנשים בעלי מדות מושחתות לסדר חשבונות עם אדם חשוב מפורסם באופן שעוד לא נשמע כזאת! בידעם שהממשל רגוש ומעוניין לברר דברים כאלו, וד''ל. ומוכנים להשחית כבודו ומעמדו ועתידו של הרב החסיד המשגיח שליט''א שליחו של הרה''ק הלב שמחה זי''ע אשר השליך נפשו מנגד במסירות נפלאה במשך ז''ך שנים להשריש בלבנו אהבת תורה ויראת ה'.





וכמה החמירו חז''ל על עוון מסירה, וביותר בנידון דידן, אשר יוצא מזה עלבון וביזוי ת''ח וחילול ה' נורא. על כן עורו נא והתעוררו נא ונוקיע יחד מעשה נבזה זה אשר בוודאי ברצות ה' לא יעלה זממם השפל אשר עלול ח''ו להתהוות מצב שלכל מי שיהיה לו דין ודברים עם מחנך יעליל עליו אצל השלטונות, הי-ה לא תהי-ה.





ולהרב המשגיח שלנו אנו פונים חזק ותתחזק אל תירא ואל יפול רוחך כאשר כבר נודע מפי םפרי רבותינו הק' אשר דווקא במדה שבו מצטיין האדם הן לעצמו הן להשריש באחרים דווקא על אותו מדה מעלילים עליו כמו שהיתה אצל משרע''ה שבעת שהתוה''ק העידה עליו שהיה עניו מכל אדם דווקא בזה חשדוהו קרח ועדתו.

וה' יבקש את הנרדף ויעמוד לימינך בעז''ה.



החותמים בצער ובכאב רב



תלמידי מתיבתא בית ישראל בעבר ובהווה

Anonymous said...

So now Leizorowitz is being compared to Moshe Rabbenu!

Victims and all those with knowledge of this man's crimes - stand up now and put an end to this tremendous chilul hashem that these flyers are causing!

Anonymous said...

What do you expect from Chassidim?

Business as usual.

You are fortunate they do not know you. They would kill you, kanoiyim poigim boi.

I guess this is the matrix of the problem: kayoyim pog'im boys, a touchy issue.

the best defense, be offensive.

Anonymous said...

UOJ- Can you please have that translated. Thanks

Shmuely Boteach said...

UOJ has got me scared shitless. I have to reevaluate my defense of pedophiles like Michael Jackson. I haven't had this much discomfort since Chabad kicked me out of my shlichus at Oxford and declared chairem.

Whatever Kolko was doing was definitely not kosher sex.

Anonymous said...

Can someone please tell me what the
hell this Laiserowitz did and who he is(Masgiach of where?)?
Pardon my ignorance.

Triple Zero Shapiro said...

Lesser, I hear you got nailed for heavy duty drug possession besides the stolen gems.

Does anyone know if Lesser went completely off the derech? I looked him up and found that a Zevulon Lesser got married last year to a shiksa in Indiana named Danielle Donahugh. Is Bully in a federal prison out there? I guess conjugal visits beats getting Kolko'ed by other inmates.

boog said...

Boteach; you low-life,

It is my fervent wish to see Michael dangle you over the railing of a very high balcony.

Un-Orthodox Jew said...

To Sruli Singer posting as Chaim Epstein,

Pissed at me for not posting your lies? Huh Sruli, Bronfman kicked your thieving ass out of the WJC and had enough of your brown nosing?

Escaped jail by a hair and pissed at me for exposing you for the money grubbing pig that you are?

Ha Srulik...George cut you off too?

Now maybe you'll take a real job; the USPS and UPS are looking for help.

boog said...

RE: The Ger Mesifta Flyer:

So answer me this, Batman:

If Leizerowitz is innocent, why did Ger close down their dormitory in the dead of night, without warning or notice?

And why did Leizerowitz slink off to Toronto and go into hiding?

E. Nuff said...

To the person(s) who constantly posts as various people, such as "shmuely boteach" above:
A) You're brand of "humor" really isn't funny.
B) What place is there for an attempt at humor in the midst of such a serious discussion? An occassional comic outlet can be well recived, but these constant impersonation postings are really, really, really stupid.

Let's concentrate on the REAL people UOJ is helping.

boog said...

UOJ;

Don't recommend to Sruli that he go postal in the USPS. He's the type to put anthrax into the envelopes.

Milton Friedman said...

UOJ,

I guess Sruli wasn't savvy enough to know you can trace him.

Who is George?

And it's really a chutzpah if he's impersonating the rosh yeshiva R' Chaim Epstein. Zweibel and Shafran will have their heads up their own rears trying to farentfer that one.

American Postal Workers Union said...

We just received a letter from Avi Shafran, denying any wrongdoing by Sruli and practically begging us to grant him membership.

Does anyone know if Singer also has a propensity for violence? We wouldn't want any proverbial going postal with an AK-47 if he gets disgruntled by anti-Agudah hecklers.

Get A Life said...

If E. Nuff said doesn't like comments that UOJ chooses to post he can join Tuvya and take a hike.

He obviously doesn't speak the mamma loshon Yiddish which is full of humorisms nor is he familiar with the Gemara where the badchan got Oylam Habo for making people laugh.

As far as wether this particular forum is appropriate, it's a chassidisher minhag to make the Rebbe laugh on Tisha B'Av in some circles to lighten things up if they get overly somber.

boog said...

George= George Kuhl.

E. Nuff said...

Get A Life,
UOJ published my comment, too. I think he encourages people expressing themselves and that is what I did. You didn't respond to my first point that it isn't funny, it's annoying. Had it been funny I probably wouldn't have bothered to comment. Why don't you head over there if you think you're such hot stuff.
And if you think what I am saying is similar to Tuvya's comments, go Get A Life!
Can we have some opinions on this. UOJ, how about a poll?

Morton Landowne said...

Seems to me like E. Nuff Said is making a moot point as there's almost no one left who hasn't been impersonated yet.

GOEL HADAM said...

TORONTONIANS!!!
Laserowitz might be planning an
escape using the Boat Shul!!!

Bungalow Putz Association said...

UOJ probably allows all the impersonations to get us riled up so he can watch us do an angry dance.

Maybe enuff said can have Tuvya conduct the poll.

Mordechai Twerski said...

Who cares about impersonations? I just don't like all this bashing of my fetter Aron.

So sayeth the Hornosteipler-Denver Rebbe of Flatbush.

Aaron Hirth said...

Everyone loses in a battle.

Anonymous said...

The real people uoj is helping are u and me. Victims of sexual abuse can contact the awareness center etc.

I agree though, mac'nuff. The impersonations are a terrible chutzpah, irritating, annoying, but, I must admit, someone knew all the right buttons to push on camp agudah.

It felt like a reunion.

Tuvyah said...

My response to anonymous (comments in bold)


"Tuvia,

Here is my take. On the whole, you are wrong. Plain and simple. "

You are entitled to your opinion. But for me to follow it, you must be convincing.

"The charges that UOJ has brought against molesters are indeed substantiated. Kolko, Leizorowitz, Colmer, Nussbaum, etc. Do you believe that they are guilty or, at the very least, that they have had a KOL following them around for years? So there goes your claim that somehow UOJ is destroying innocent people by publicly declaring then molesters."


It is a fact that there have been a kol following some of them (I am not familiar with all of them). It is also pretty established that not enough was done. This is particularly appalling in a situation where one has access and is a teacher of young children. A kol is enough to temporarily remove someone from a position until the matter is clarified.

That being said, a kol is not an established fact. The same way that we must be very cautious in allowing a possible molestor access to children (lachshosh mibaye), we must be equally cautious not to malign people and automatically assume fault with every accusation. We must be judicious and allow others more qualified to arrive at a substantial decision on these matters. More qualified = legal experts and mental health professionals. While there is a role for community lay people in making sure that people are brought into the criminal justice system, It is NOT their role to make a final decision (and publicize it).

"UOJ is bringing things to our attention that, for the most part, the entire frum community has known about for years and years; but, because of the abuse of our beautiful Torah has been permitted to continue and fester in our very midst."

Abuse has been addressed and dealt with on many levels (I am personally aware). A lot more could have been done. Our system is flawed and people are afraid of powerful people. There is definitely a need for change. I and many other rational people fully support that.

"You declare that UOJ allows unsubstantiated allegations. I believe that others have expressed their concernn regarding comments that we have seen on this blog that seem to get out of hand from time to time. That is a valid point,"

Glad to see that you are able to recognize that (most here cannot see that)


"but has nothing to do with the fact that UOJ has been correct on every single molester that he has exposed."

Who said that he was proven correct?

"He has single- handedly brought about their downfall."

I agree with that, but I question if the extent that he took it (downfall) was appropriate based on the current factual evidence.

"You say that Klal Yisroel exists because of Talmidei Chachomim. I have news for you. Many of the people that UOJ has gone after are leaders/talmidei chachomim in form, but not in substance. Surely, these are not the "talmidei chachomim" that klal yisroel exists because of. When UOJ attacks those he shouldn't, that is unequivocaly wrong."

Thank you for agreeing with my point.

"However, there are some who have been attacked who you may think are being unfairly attacked, but whom UOJ may have obtained information about that he believes disqualifies them from their exalted leadership status."

As far as I know, the information that he has obtained is equivalent to the information that he has obtained about me (I’m a putzhead, living in a fancy house on Bedford Avenue, stealing from Medicaid,etc. etc. etc.). As far as I see the man wildly exaggerates if not fabricates. I question his motivation. I question his reputation. These matters are too serious for him to decide on.

"I am not saying that I always agree with his tactics, but it is easy to throw around the phrase "Mivazeh Talmidei Chachomim" without first examining whether the people in question are truly qualified for their titles."

He has publicly attacked people who have been accepted as talmidei chachomim and leaders by klal yisrael. I don’t need to go into details. Read his posts and see the people who he has attacked. This is vulgar bizayon of talmidei chachomim. Chazal say about such people “ain lohem chelek l’olam haboh”. I urge you to read a piece from Rabbeinu Yonah in shaarei Tshuva (Gates of Repentance) 3: 147-152.

"Your beautiful midos are exemplified as you state that "anyone can make allegations" and that "the court case has not yet begun" followed by "Let us wait and see what happens." You seem to be hoping that Kolko walks out of court a free man. After all, it is only allegations..."

Chas vishalom. That is an unfair accusation against me. I want justice in whatever form that would take.

"Your polls, if true, further prove how our community is so numb to the pain of the victims - yes, they are real, living, human beings who have gone through unimaginable TZAR - as to necessitate the creation of UOJ to wake all of us up from our slumber."

My polls prove nothing of the sort. Practically everyone I spoke to (aside from a few jerks) hoped that good would come out of this and more would be done. You and so many others are confusing the means and the end. The means (UOJ) are wrong and horrible; the end of helping victims (in the correct way) are both honorable and necessary. He just has created a situation that makes him unfit to be the one who will bring justice here.


"Lowlifes, losers, and the modern orthodox - those few modern orthodox jews who are still left in our pristine environment - your words, shameful words."

Nope. Exxageration and misrepresentation. My words were that are still left in Flatbush. I didn’t say anything about a pristine environment. UOJ is concentrating on Flatbush (i.e. , Y.T.T. and other individuals). His targets have little relevance to the MO population, yet they (or at least their views) are overrepresented on his blog


"Sorry, Tuvia, the great environmentalist, that these second class citizens are polluting your atmposphere. Perhaps you should find a cabin where you will not have to deal with these horrible jews or perhaps you may be thinking about the next Final Solution."

You take me out of context. I am not getting involved with modern orthodoxy. Minds greater than mine have discussed this issue. I was simply saying (after a significant amount of analysis) that the motivations for UOJ and the posters are questionable. I attributed these motivation to 3 unrelated sources—one of them being modern orthodoxy. They have an agenda to bring down the concept of “gedolim” (see the article by J.J. Shachter in Tradition) along with many of the “sexual” practices of the “chareidi” world, which they are not fond of (e.g., social contact between members of the opposite gender)


"Modern Orthodox Jews - Is it specifically religous Zionism that bothers you? Rav Kook? Rav Solevetchik? Rav Herschel Schachter? Please specify as I am sure the readers of the blog are waiting with bated breath."


See above. I cant comment on the specific leaders you mention that I am not familiar with. I do have nothing but respect for Rav Hershel Shachter, though. Unlike those who I have referred to as modern orthodox, his life is guided by the Torah (and he does not use the Torah to try to fit his own agenda)

""Lowlife and losers" - as mentioned before, there is legitimate criticism that can be leveled at UOJ for allowing the nature of the dialogue to get out of hand at times."

And for contributing to this dialogue!


"There may be a share of readers and participants who are not in here to help, but rather to follow the "gossip." However, the ease in which you engage in broad-stroking an entire readership is truly bothersome, especially coming from someone claiming to aspire to higher standards."

Go read the posts….it is an overwhelming majority of the posts.

"In your quest for zealotry, you have become a true sonei yisroel."


?????????????????????????????


"It is you who should be turning the pages of the meislas yeshorim and shaarei teshuva. Kol Haposel B'Mumo Posel. You criticize this blog as a ragsheet, yet you have engaged in name calling to the highest degree."

Yes, this is the first criticism that I agree with (namecalling). And if you would know me, this is far from my style. I did it simply because it is his language. Im lilaytzim hu yolitz, v’lanavim yiten chen.
And, by the way, the blog IS a ragsheet!

"As far as UOJ's motives are concerned (responding to anonymous who supoorts Tuvia), while some of us may not agree uwith all of UOJ's actions, I believe that UOJ's motives are totally Lishmah. I believe that he is bothered by the leadership void and hypocrisy that has resulted in many severe issues undermining the integrity of Yiddishkeit; running the gamut from corruption, etc. that the earlier blogs focused on and molestation that has been UOJ's singular focus for the past 6 months."


So why doesn’t one real person in real life back the man (other than anonymous people here). Why cant he get one Rav, one community leader, one mental health professional who will say that “this is the approach that we need to take”?
You know why,,,because it is destructive and wrong.


"This is far different than a Rasha who kills someone because he hates him (bad intentions), yet is was G-D's will for this to happen - so we say Harbeh Sheluchim L'Makom. Ignorance can be very dangerous. Binah - Mavin Dovor Mitoch Dovor. You must be able to make apt analogies; otherwise your conclusions are faulty. Anonymous, your conclusion is erroneous. UOJ's intentions are pure - perhaps he veers off here and there,"

Here and there?????? No further comment on this one.


"but as UOJ himself said "I will let God judge me and my language; after all, I am human and have shortcomings. I'm willing to take that chance."


O, so he is willing to take the chance for being mivazeh talmidei chachomim, for ruining people’s lives, for spreading slander against anyone who so much dares to create a perception of defending anyone that he doesn’t like. He is quite impulsive if he is willing to take that chance.


"Wwe can sit back and allow Shafran, Twersky, Margulies and company to continue to spin the news, deceive the public and continue to bring more suffering and pain to the victims. But, haven't the victims suffered enough? Where is your true caring? In fact, where is the true caring of our leaders, our organizations, and even our parents?"


Maybe you are right and maybe you are wrong, I don’t know. But how do YOU know what these are doing? Because they are not yelling on blogs and ruining peoples lives, because they don’t run to the secular media with our dirt? That is making an insinuation which you are not qualified to make, but is typical of all the self-righteous people here.

"Or we can understand that this blog, despite its imperfections,"

I will stop there..

Un-Orthodox Jew said...

ATTN: LEIZEROWITZ VICTIMS:

THE SOB, SICK, MOFO, GERRORIST REBBE PUTZ,SHITHEAD, MOSHIACH'S ASSHOLE BUDDY, INSTRUCTED LEIZEROWITZ TO RETURN TO NEW YORK AND ATTEND HIS FAREWELL BASH AT ATERES CHAYA HALL JULY, IITH. HE PROMISED HIM NOTHING WILL HAPPEN TO HIM.

GO TO THE D.A, POLICE, FBI, ANYONE IN THE POSITION TO ARREST THIS DISEASED ANIMAL! THIS WILL BE YOUR LAST CHANCE TO BRING THIS SCUMBAG TO JUSTICE. THEN HE'S OFF TO MONDROWITZ COUNTRY!

Anonymous said...

Tuvia,

Though you went to great lengths to respond to my post, I will respond in a much broader context.

From your collective posts, it comes across that you simply do not believe that allegations are likely to be true - possible, yes; likely, no.

That about sums it up.

Anonymous said...

Tuvia,

Meant to add one thing:

Not once in your lengthy response to my post did you address the victims' pain.

Strange, indeed.

boog said...

Tuvyah;

You're pathetic and you and your "Holy Rollers" Yated-Hamodia definers of "Orthodox" Judaism are the direct cause of the many problems that currently befall us.

Rabbi Lamm's characterization of you as "cavemen" was, IMO, being charitable and just the tip of the iceberg.

I had to laugh at your accusing anon of being self-righteous. You and your Chevra have a monopoly on self-righteousness. Your lumping together of 'lowlifes, losers, and modern orthodox" says it all. Your denial and obfuscation of the fact that these pedophilia retzichas have been ignored and whitewashed by these so-called "Gedolim" you hold so near and dear is symptomatic of the ostrichitis, fear, and denial that has gripped our community for years.

Finally, there is in UOJ, a person who has accomplished more on this issue in the past six months than all of your vaunted "Gedolim" put together.

The next time your sweet "frum" sensibilities are offended by some of the rough language that occasionally appears here, envision the "rough" emotional and psychological times the molestees are living through.

Anonymous said...

post contact info to get to the Feds please, so victims know whom to call.

Anonymous said...

People in ger are being blackmailed and will be afraid to go to the feds

Anonymous said...

"Running to the secular media with our dirt."

Need a ride?

Anonymous said...

tuvie,

You are rational (because you are in a position to know).

I think you should ask a poisek if it's mutar to blog here. You said you're not going away. Is this da'as Toireh?

Yitzchok Scherman said...

Did Kolko and Margo make sure there is a mezuzah on the door of the boiler room in YTT?

Anonymous said...

Don't offer a ride you might need a bus or two for all the LEIZEROWITZ lap dancers.

Auto Report World Editors said...

Tuvya,

I'm still waiting for your list of gedolim and the criteria for what makes a gadol. I'm also waiting for you to give us one example of how you have done tshuvah, and how your description of other Jews as losers and lowlifes fits in with the mitzvah of Ahavat Yisrael.

You are so smugly self righteous in your description of other Jews as losers that you don't even see what a hateful act it is. You say that UOJ is mevazeh gedolim. We say that you are mevazeh erliche Yidden who are deeply troubled by all sorts of corruption in the frum community.

Yankel said...

Tuvya,

Your question of why hasn't a single rabbinic or mental health authority backed up OUJ is an interesting and telling one. I could answer that many might not know about OUJ - let's face it, the internet and the blogosphere are hardly known commodities in the kollel world. Or, perhaps some of the critics are not far off the mark when they wonder if too many of these leaders are, by virtue of their personal friendships with each other and interactions with each other, too much nogei'im b'davar, having too much of a personal stake, to stand up. Or perhaps they are just human, unwilling to be the first to depart from the group and take an unpopular stand?

But I have a question for you. You acknowledge that there is a problem that must be rooted out. So, why hasn't a single Rav or mental health authority taken a clear, public stance against it? You say OUJ is unfit to be the standard bearer for this cause. Ok then, whom do you have in mind to replace him? Is there a single other person besides him calling out?

OUJ's voice is indeed a voice from the wilderness. Perhaps it's a rude voice. Perhaps too rude and too crude. But it's the only one calling right now, isn't it?

As I've said before, given the choice between poor means/good end and good means/bad end, I'll take the poor means. It may be far from ideal, but at least something good can come out of it.

As I see it, talmidei chachomim are perfectly able to survive being called names on the internet. But children who are at even a remote risk of being molested cannot survive silence. The real problem, the one that can destroy lives, not just damage reputations, is the molesters. You don't like OUJ's solution. What's the alternative? Do nothing? And risk such damage to our children?

I would understand you better if you denied the problem's existence. I would argue with you about that, but at least I would understand your criticism of OUJ more: after all, why go through all this for nothing? But you do acknowledge at least the possibility of the problem. Surely you must see that rooting out molesters must take priority over everything else - pikuach nefesh is docheh just about everything when there is no other way. You don't like this way? Then offer an alternative, a realistic approach that can net results. If you can't, if there's no other way, then please remember that very many medications leave a bitter taste in your mouth. But they can still cure the disease.

Anonymous said...

Yankel, your good, very very good. You appear to understand the plight of victims and eloquently deliver the argument on thier behalf. What Boog does in short bursts of emotional and passionate posts you do in very convincing essays. Your words are balm to the wounds of survivors. Imagine the strength those Leizerowitz victims draw from your advocacy as they are inundated with waves of terroristic tactics of the Gerrorist goons. Ger reminds me now of the cult mentality and ultimate decline ween with the Shabetei Tzvi & Frank Messianic cults. The Frankists too engaged in horribly perverse sexual acts in the name of religion. Word is getting out of a huge scandal breaking next week in ger which should show the world what Ger has been hiding in the proverbial closet routinely. It's got to do with another set of Gerrer perverts and shows the problem is systemic there.

gross said...

"Moishe Binik"

Re: Mitnick

It was about 10 or so years ago - when "youth-at-risk" "Rabbis" had unchecked, cart blanche access.

I heard it from several sources. It was not from some messed up disgruntled kid with a bone to pick (no pun intended.) In fact some of these kids didn't know how wrong it was!

Sick Of Windbags Like Tuvya said...

"We must be judicious and allow others more qualified to arrive at a substantial decision on these matters. More qualified = legal experts and mental health professionals."

So the oyber chuchem Tuvya wants another Purim shpiel at YTT conducted by Pro-Fresser Twerski and Mandell?

Anonymous said...

I have criticized uoj in previous posts. He has responded, almost contritely. He is a good man, rabbi, teacher preacher and more. He has brought klal Yisroel to the crest of the hill and has many more to climb.

Anonymous said...

I called spira s.d. at 718-851-8832 - one of the names posted above, re: leizorowitz.

I asked him if the allegations regarding Rabbi Leizorowitz are true, if he is indeed a child molester, if the Yeshiva will be honoring him at a dinner, and if he has indeed fled to Toronto.

His response to each of my inquiries was:

"If you tell me your name, I'll be more than happy to talk to you."

Needless to say, I did not oblige.

I tried calling the other two names that were listed: kagan meir 718-256-7758 and rubinsten zvi 718-436-7144. One did not pick up and the other did not accept calls with blocked caller IDs.

I suggest we all barrage them with calls. Further, if the dinner is still planned, let us protest in large numbers!

By the way, Kolko was spotted davening in the main shul in Woodridge, NY.

Is His Cover Blown ? said...

Could "Tuvya" be Zweibel? We know that Zweibel is pissed at Margo for being a stubborn tuchess who refused to do anything about Kolko, thus causing the biggest chilul H in decades. But Zweibel doesn't like all the collateral damage that's being inflicted on the Agudah and their associates.

Zweibel could have even bought a new laptop for this purpose that UOJ can't trace.

Let's see what the Agudah expense account has been up to lately.

Hmmmm.

Raphael Butler said...

Is Ger forcing the rank and file to show up at Ateres Chaya for the fake photo op?

Has anyone spoken to Gedalya Jacobovits? He should cancel the Gerrorist reservations.

Toucan Sam said...

Follow your nose, it always knows.

Something stinks in the city of Baltimore. Even when these fruit loops go elsewhere, like Simcha Weinberg who currently has a shteeble in Riverdale, scandal follows them.

Anonymous said...

Guess who is leading the coverup and f--kfest for Leizerowitz ?

HINT: The first cousin of the "hot" jewish music artist arrested and jailed in Israel for alegedly raping frum jewish girls in Jerusalem. That family has bagage a U-Haul truck couldn't shlep!

First to post the correct answer gets to lapdance Leizerowitz at the 7-11 (sounds so good) f--kfest @ Atensel on the Chaim.

Yankel said...

Anonymous,

Thanks for the kind words. It's always nice to be appreciated! There are more words of "wisdom" on my blog if you're interested. (And all apologies for the shameless plug!)

I beg to differ with you about the comparisons between the Frankists and those today who cover up, and thereby tacitly condone, abuse. The Frankists were, at least, honest perverts. They believed, in their own warped little way, that the brachah "matir assurim" did not mean "makes possible the impossible" but "makes permissible the forbidden," and they made that brachah every time they purposefully committed an aveirah. They made it before eating cheilev, before being mechalel shabbos, before everything assur that they did. They honestly believed that God wanted them to do it. With a brachah. Weird. Warped. But at least they acknowledged that what they were doing was assur. And that they were doing it. To me, they were like gazlonim: open and honest about the theft they committed, with no fear of God or man.

Today's problem is much different. Today, there are people who want it both ways. If asked, they will loudly and proudly tell you that - hypothetically speaking, of course - of course molestation is rishus. A cheit. Evil. Something to be eradicated. Yet with their very next breath they will tell you that - practically speaking now - such-and-such person is obviously too great a person to do anything like that, and accusing him is a bizayon, and if you don't shut up right now we'll crack your skull open for you with this here lead pipe. To me, these people are like ganavim, stealing in the dark, in the shadows, fearful of man, but brazen before God.

The gemara is very clear that ganavim are worse than gazlonim, and therefore are chayev the extra punishment of paying keifel, because they put fear of man before fear of Hashem. The gazlan is equally unafraid of both: not admirable, exactly - he's still a thief and a choteh after all - but at least his priorities aren't completely messed up. But the ganaf is not only a thief, but also a hypocrite. And that's much worse.

Anonymous said...

Guess who is the co-emcee @ the 7-11 f--kfest honoring Leizerowitz?

HINT: Best friend of Mr. Sfas Emes who likes men better than women. The proof is in the..... no stupid not in the pudding but close.

Anonymous said...

We here @ UOJ beg of Leizerowitz to come back in all his gloryhole and show for the world what toothless dragons the poor victims of the last 30 some years are. Go ahead make our day. Were ready willing and able to greet him. Didn't "he" say its OK. (WINK WINK)

boog said...

anon;

Can you give us more info and details on the upcoming new ger sex scandal?

boog said...

Tuvyah AKA Zwiebel?

Tuvyah AKA Shafran?

Anything is possible.

Anonymous said...

I tried calling the other two names that were listed: kagan meir 718-256-7758 and rubinsten zvi 718-436-7144. One did not pick up and the other did not accept calls with blocked caller IDs.
. zvi rubinstein did not pick up because he drove the pervert to safety in canada. zvi is a divorced person that couldnt live with a lady he must have enjoyed leizerowitzs love way more than his wifes. iheard leizerowitz is coming back to town today if any info please post

southernyid said...

An outsiders's opinion of Tuvyah's comment "losers, lowlifes, and modern orthodox":

It is clear to me that these are three distinct groups of people that he is catagorizing and he is not calling MO losers and lowlifes.

I am not saying i agree with his analysis and I am not saying that I disagree, I am simply saying that he is not guilty of calling MO losers and lowlifes.

Anonymous said...

i just got an unconfirmed report that leizerowitz is back from canada. how sad that such a sicko scum bag like him a life destroyer of many walks our streets with no shame or fear

Anonymous said...

UOJ
"OFF TO MONDROWITZ COUNTRY"

Please watch your nevel pah and is this a way to refer to Eretz Yisroel?

Anonymous said...

Some contact info:

FBI New York
26 Federal Plaza, 23rd. Floor
New York, New York 10278-0004
newyork.fbi.gov
(212) 384-1000

FBI Baltimore
2600 Lord Baltimore
Baltimore, Maryland 21244
baltimore.fbi.gov
(410) 265-8080

New York State Police
Manhattan Wards Island,
New York, NY 10035
917-492-7100

At the Kings County DA
CHANA WIDAWSKI, LMSW at 718-250-2005

& 911

Michelle said...

Although I wish that I could turn a blind eye like so many others have done, having read countless stories cannot allow me to do so.

I am infuriated by the community's desperate attempt to save their images more than the people within the community. Don't they get it?? Kids are being molested!! Their lives are being ruined, and their biggest problem is whether a student had internet access? This is beyond me.

What I don't get is, who are they protecting themselves from? We're all involved. Whether we want to be or not. I don't have relatives in these Yeshivos, but as a Brooklynite, I am "involved." So everyone's involved, either at UOJ's level, mine, or they have a child in the schools, or they're victims...so who is left to impress?? NOBODY!

Shameless self promotion, www.humblejewishopinion.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

meir kagan is yeedle werdiGERs first cousen and does anybody have details on yeedles arrest on underage sex charges in isreal where he sat in jail for a nice while

Anonymous said...

Just got word from G. Jacobowitz from Ateres Chaya hall that Kagen the main and strongest supporter of Leizerowitz and organizer of the upcoming leizerowitz event that Rabbi Leizerowitz is in flight on his final way to Israel Therefore the Dinner was cancelled Yeah!

Anonymous said...

can anybody confirm that leizerowitz is gone

Anonymous said...

"CONFIRMED" i know for a fact leizerowitz left for israel. i am dancing for joy we are finally knocking some heads around here good bye you gay mo-fo thank you uoj and the likes of you for helpping get rid of the baddest of the bad

Anonymous said...

does anybody know who Rabbi Borzikowsky is?

Anonymous said...

Thank You for everybodys help in getting rid of AM Leizerowitz.

Anonymous said...

Rabbi Borzikowsky is a Gemarah grade rebbe in Yeshuva Yagdil Tora (GER) according to a friend of mine in Brooklyn and according to the secretary at Ichud Mosdos Gur I spoke to in order to confirm. Why do u ask?

Anonymous said...

For info on Kagan's cousin Yeedle Werdyger go to Vicki's website THEAWARENESSCENTER and you will see a ton of info. Kagan has a lot more bagage then just this I hear.

boog said...

Wonderful.

Now leizerowitz and Mondrowitz get to victimize the Israeli kids.

Anonymous said...

Boog, why are u worried about jack alter's kid's kids ?

Just being cynical, we have to protect all kids from monsters but our first. Thanx for your part in this work. I love your posts.

JBL the first said...

STOP this stupid namecalling has to stop now. There is an urgent problem out there but this is no way to deal with it. In the end someone will be accusing you of all the same things you're reading.

To "UOJ SR'Y" You are a terrible rosho with unmatched apikorsus. Your baseless stupid comments on all our gedolim just show what your true intentions really are. You can't mean our good when in the same blog you trample and defy everything that is really important to us. It is a sin just to think that you are equal to any rav rabbi or godol from this generation or the previous. Your sense is just like the difference between a cat and a human.

My advice to you REPENT FAST

Anonymous said...

i can finally sleep a little knowing that a very sick leizerowitz fled the states not in this big gloryfied great mashgiach that helped young buchrim through their tough teenage years but as a one very sick man that tormented many students and their parents alike. my mother having heard the basterd fled looked me in the eye and said he is finally out of here iknow she will start sleeping a little bettor after all these years knowing he is still here to destroy others. since i know the system i just hope and pray to hashem that he does not get put back in some yeshia in israel if that does happen the fight has to continue until he is in his grave for i will not be able to sleep knowing that he is once again between innocent pure souls thank you uoj i have no words for you and am in awe of your great and difficult undertaking of bringing down these evil leizerowitz's for ever.may hashem bless you and whoever is helping you with peace of mind;nachus from your kids and them from theirs; and that every blessing that has ever been blessed should fall upon you.im speechless of your holy work. sincerly yours a leizerowitz victom forever.

Anonymous said...

continuation of gerrorist anthem GERRORISTS ANTHEM! said...
THE NEW GERRER ANTHEM:



LET YOUR BALLS HANG LOW……

LET THEM WOBBLE TO AND FRO.



AND YOUR DICK STAND AT ATTENTION….

WE ARE LEIZEROWITZ’S MENCHIN
HOW WE LOVE TO LAPDANCE OH HOW WE LOVE WHATS IN LEIZEROWITZ' PANTS. YES WERE THE CHASIDUM OF GER FOREVER AND EVER..

Anonymous said...

Yeedle was boycotted in England
by the London Bais Din when he gave a concert there. Lets do the same when he tries to give one here!!!!!!!!!

Nitzor Leshoncha said...

Please everyone, try to speak with proper language. Yes those men are sick, but, you don't have to stoop so low as to use street language to describe them. They need help as does any other sick person. Do we curse out people who are sick or do we wish them a Refuah Shelaimo? I know it is alleged that they did terrible things to young boys, and they must not be allowed to work in a situation in which they have access to and influence on boys and young men, but, still it is not befitting for you to lower yourself and speak in this very unbecoming manner. Yes you are very angry, justifiably so, but, don't demean yourself in speaking this way.

JBL the first said...

Looking over the comments here proves my point. This has really become a dirty nasty smear site to lash out hate against anyone and everyone one wants to besmirch and disgrace.

Some dirty comments here really don't have any connection to this topic and are let in by the editor WHY?????

Anonymous said...

maybe uoj isn't mr. feelgood, mr. nice guy? Maybe uoj is angry, bitter, upset.

He respected Rabbis Neuberger and Ruderman. He likes some people. But, he clearly doesn't like others. Loi sisneh es achicha bilovavecha. He's not hiding anything. He says it like he sees it. He calls the shots and shoots. He's made his peace with his Maker and is prepared to die a happy man. He's lost weight. Nobody can accuse him of having a bloated blog. His blog is unclogged. There is no waste material other than everybody else's kaka.

He is what he is and to some, he's great. To others, he's the worst. He's never been molested but accuses others of abuse. Heenay hachadashot. Kahn reshet aleph. UOJ scares the s... out of the moetzes gedoilay yisroel while others privately cheer. They must be reshoyim.

Anonymous said...

Abusers (yes molesters, and so on) all deny, blame-shift and have a sense of entitlement. That said UOJ you wrote a powerful piece for responsible speech in our community.

A question for you... what do you say to those who accuse you of loshan hara?

Anonymous said...

i heard some rumors that leizerowitz is trying to get back into chinuch in israel hashem yishmor someone please give information of his whearabouts please post home phone # -address-shul where he davens-mikvah he goes to-his neighbors have to know to protect their kids from this pervert. leizerowitz victim forever

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