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Thursday, March 23, 2006

Lipa Margulies, Yeshiva Torah Temimah And Yudi Kolko Summoned To Bais Din

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A Prominent Torah Temimah Parent Comments Below The Hazmanah




Please allow me to introduce myself to the readership of this blog. My name is Eli Greenwald, and I am a Torah Temimah parent with a keen interest in protecting the well being of my child as well as the health and safety of all of our children.

This comment can be printed as a comment or, if you choose, as a lead post.

When the anonymous letters were distributed to a large segment of the Flatbush community, I was naturally very concerned that such a situation could exist at my child's Yeshiva. With my conscience torn between chas v'shalom falsely accusing an innocent man; yet, on the other hand, unable to rest, knowing that the lives of pure, innocent children may have been shattered in the past and could presently still be at risk, I decided that I must use every available resource to verify whether the charges as stated in the anonymous letters were accurate.

Sadly, after speaking to multiple sources, which included people intimately familiar with the Bais Din proceedings some 25 years ago, I became convinced that not only is there credible overwhelming evidence to support the charges, but that Rabbi Margulies has known about the charges all these years. Though victims came forth to tell their stories of abuse, for reasons known only to G-D, proper and decisive action was not taken against Rabbi Kolko. In fact, action was taken to besmirch the victims' reputations causing them much pain and devastation. By the way, it is my understanding that Bais Din never issued a P'sak on the matter. Most importantly, I have personally spoken to many victims of Rabbi Kolko. Their stories are very real and painful. Children should never have to live through what these and other victims have been through. The effect of their childhood abuse lingers on and remains with them well into their adulthood.

I believe that it is incumbent upon every parent to check into this matter thoroughly using his/her own resources and due diligence. I was able to verify the accuracy of the charges. I am just an individual with no special connections. If I was able to verify the facts, anyone can and should. We do not have any excuses when it comes to the safety of our children! You have not discharged your obligation to safeguard your children by calling the Yeshiva and "feeling relieved" after the administration reassures you that there is no substance to the charges. Perform an independent investigation and you will discover the truth.

Here is my personal story and the price that I have paid for getting involved. Believe me, it is a small price compared to what the victims have suffered through. Though many have tried to discourage me from getting involved specifically because of this fear factor, the victims need to see that there are people out there who do care about them. There must be a light at the end of this dark tunnel that they have walked alone through for so long. Ultimately, Emes does prevail; if not on this world, then, in the next. That is what should keep us all going and striving to do the right thing without ulterior motives.

Upon verifying the charges, I called YTT and spoke to Rabbis Applegrad and Margulies. After telling each of them during separate conversations that I found the evidence to be overwhelming, I was told that they would not be taking any action to address the situation. In fact, instead of addressing the strong concerns expressed by a long-time parent and graduate of Yeshiva Torah Temimah, a few hours after speaking to Rabbi Margulies, I received a Hazmana from Rabbi Kolko summoning me to Bais Din (please see attached Hazmana) for being Motzei Shem Ra. Flabbergasted to say the least, I realized that this was an intimidation tactic -

something that was used very effectively during the prior Bais Din proceedings. I responded to the Hazmana by agreeing to go to a different Bais Din and have not heard back from the Torah Temimah team since.

I have deep empathy for the innocent members of Rabbi Kolko's family who will suffer as a result of what their dear loved one has wreaked upon them. I empathize with Rabbi Kolko as well and wish that he would seek the help that he so desperately needs. I do not wish to see Rabbi Kolko suffer any embarrassment and do not have any enmity towards him. My only wish is for him to be removed from his current position and that he is not allowed to regain employment around children again. Bearing this in mind, I believe that the comments on this blog should be restricted to mature, well thought out comments that contribute to the public dialogue and purpose of this blog, and not childish, boorish remarks that are personal in nature and decrease the blog's effectiveness.

I have known Rabbi Kolko for quite some time and this conflict of interest has made it even more difficult for me to get involved. However, to ignore the reality would be a perversion of justice. The victims and the safety of our children should and must be our ultimate consideration. Too many people at the highest levels of our leading organizations have known about this and chosen to ignore it. Trust me, I have spoken to some of those people and felt very discouraged after talking to them. They have applied Midas HaRachamim to the abuser/ perpetrator while applying a strict Midas HaDin to the victims. The needs, feelings and rights of the victims as well as the safety of our innocent children have literally been ignored and left by the wayside. This is not only a shame, but is truly Midas Sedom. To those on the street who are spreading rumors about my "personal vendetta" against Rabbi Kolko, the truth is there for all that wish to see it. All you need to do is take the blinders off your eyes.

Most outrageous is how YTT handled the entire incident since the allegations were brought to their attention over 20 years ago. Instead of removing this Rebbi from the Yeshiva and giving him the help that he needed, they chose to keep him on staff and pretend that the problem didn't exist. Rabbi Margulies could have done the right thing, but instead chose to embark on a path that has led to the destruction of many more lives and the current debacle. This is truly unforgivable!

I encourage everyone to begin to sign their names to their comments and posts. I address this to UOJ as well. While I certainly understand your strategic reasons for remaining anonymous, I believe that, at some point, you should unmask your cloak of anonymity. Yes, you have made controversial statements in the past, many that I disagree with, and you may not want to reveal your identity, but you should do so anyway. The only REAL and EFFECTIVE way for the community to break through the wall of resistance is for concerned and involved members of the community to step forward without fear of being exposed. I am doing this today. Mr. Alster has done the same. Kudos to Attorney Elliot Pasik who has been at the forefront for quite some time. As we continue to remain ANONYMOUS, we encourage and enable those who are taking advantage of us to continue to do so. By remaining anonymous, we are recoiling in fear. This is not the proper solution to the issue.

We must begin to form parent groups for the purpose of educating ourselves and our children about this very important topic. Mr. Pasik has spoken about background checks and an internal registry, etc. These are topics and initiatives that need the grassroots support of the parent community at large. Then, and only then, will the organizations act to implement these important solutions. We need involved parents who are willing to step forward with courage despite the resistance that they are sure to encounter along the way.

Any volunteers?

Please feel free to contact me if you would like to verify the above information.

bes1267@yahoo.com

Eli Greenwald



belsky_hazmana.pdf (60k)


Interested readers should contact Eli Greenwald for a copy of the hazmana Yisroel Belsky issued to him.


Yisroel Belsky,

I'm talking to you now...listen very carefully.

1-You knew about Kolko since the 1960's from Camp Agudah...you did nothing!
2-You were in the room and part of the bais din twenty years ago; you heard testimony from at least three of Kolko's victims, and you did nothing!
3-You are now playing along with this farce; you should have kicked Kolko out of your house on his guilty tuchis...you issued a bogus hazmana!

Yisroel Belsky...You will be summoned to testify in court; we have witnesses who will testify that you knew about Kolko's behavior for forty years; YOU STOOD BY AS HUNDREDS OF KIDS WERE MOLESTED BY THIS NON-KOSHER ANIMAL!

It's no wonder your life has been relegated to the trash bin of kashrus...you are no better than the animals you supposedly supervise for kosher slaughter.
So what if their lungs are ripped out k'neged halacha...you are getting paid well to look away!

Who is paying you in the Kolko matter? Margulies, Kolko???

We'll see your corrupt tuchis in court!

UOJ

173 comments:

Anonymous said...

The ball is rolling...kudos to your dedication! It's a shame it had to come to this - wake up Kolko & Co.!

Anonymous said...

A lawful hazmana has to state the charges on its face.

Halachicly, they have no reason to respond to a blank hazmana.

You should probably let your lawyer know. It might speed things up a bit

Anonymous said...

Yaakov Applegrad:

Thanks for advice. We'll pass it on to the resy of our team.

Paul Mendlowitz said...

Above Anon...
Absolutely false. Actually, I dare them not to respond and show up.

Hey Lipa... rumor has it you are selling your house. We'll see what the judge says about that...and many other things you've been doing recently.

Anonymous said...

UOJ, wrong. Leopold sold his house already. He sold it to Torah Temimah for $1,900,000.00.

Anonymous said...

Your new mode of posting is very effective. Kudos for bolstering your credibility in this manner.

By keeping this professional, those who vehemently support what you're doing will feel renewed confidence in your ability to drive positive change.

Be matzliach!

Anonymous said...

Yeshiva and Mesivta Torah Temimah
Mesifta Torah Temimah
Yeshiva Torah Tememah
Yeshiva Chasdei Tora
11?? E 24 ST LLC
Are board members implicated in all these fraudelent and scandalous transactions?

Anonymous said...

Oops, wrong again. Lipa Margulies sold 55% of his house to Torah Temimah for $1,900,000.00.

Anonymous said...

why a bes din in Monsey (unless the plaintiff lives there)?

Anonymous said...

After All That This What U Come Up With Your Wasting Evry Ones Time Your In Over Your Head Ben

Anonymous said...

you guys forgot to mention the date - it is very important.
End of December of this past year. Defensive and evasive action.
and wasn't it for cash? who has that kind of money sitting around?

Anonymous said...

I have two questions:

1) why does the hazmanah say that torah temimah is f/k/a yeshiva torah vodath? how do they come in to the picture?

2) I thought that Eliot Pasik is the attorney retained for this case? Who is Jeffrey Herman in Florida?

Anonymous said...

tememah inc, yoshiva and mesivta torah
temimah talmudical torah; seminary inc
torah temimah talmudical; seminary inc
yeshiva and mesivta tora

Anonymous said...

out of curiosity does anyone know what happened to yudi's class action lawsuit against twa? he had a free ticket and they cancelled his flight. twa was going bankrupt at the time. i assume he got nothing.

Anonymous said...

Reb Lipa,

Please, please, I beg you, we all beg you, please do everything in your power to stop this before it becomes too late.

We believed in you, we trusted you, we respected you. You went and built such a wonderful Torah institution, but if you continue to fight, you will loose it all. Not to mention the terrible Chilul Hashem that it will cause.

Reb Lipa, is it worth it?

From what we now see, these so-called accusations against Rabbi Yudi Kolko have now been confirmed by real victims who are now ready to testify that they were molested by Rabbi Kolko. These individuals have decided to come forward and are now in touch with several lawyers who are willing to proceed with legal action against yourself, Rabbi Kolko and your wonderful Yeshiva.

But will it stop there? I doubt it. It is only a matter of time before the goyish' press and the legal and government authorities will begin to investigate these charges.

Can you imagine your picture and those of the other rabbanim of Torah Temimah being posted on the front cover of the daily newspapers or on the TV news whist they expose a "child molesting Rabbi and teacher"? What a Chilul Hashem it will be!

Can you imagine the police investigating and questioning your board and your staff and delving into your financial records?

And what happens when they find out that these same allegations surfaced over two decades ago and you did everything in your power to quash any serious investigation and put pressure on others not to pursue such "rumors"?

Reb Lipa, please stop this before it is too late!

If not, oy what a Chilul Hashem this will be.

Anonymous said...

Tis is a joke a real Hazmanah is sent from a Beis Din not a lawyer. At best this is a threat to go to Beis Din.

Anonymous said...

Such nonsense . this is not a hazmanah a hazmanah must come from the Bais din just as a summons must come from the courts . This is just a threatening letter from a law firm. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to respond to this other than being afraid of a threat . even if he responded the Bais Din would tell him we have no idea what you are responding to as the plaintiff did not direct us to send you a hazmanah .the fact that this is being done in such a foolish roundabout way makes me wonder about the whole thing . Any normal person knows that if you want to go to din torah you oick a bais din and ask the Bais Din to sernd a Hazmanah to the other side .

Anonymous said...

UOJ,

Once again this is not an Hazmana. This is just a scare tactic used by lawyers. This will not prompt anyone to go to Beis Din. I stil believe you are full of shit as are alot of people posting on your blog.

Just as noone has the facts straight regarding Rabbi Scheinberg,Rabbi Sobel....so to you dont have the facts straight regarding this case w/ Rabbi Margolis and rabbi Kolko as well.

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!

Anonymous said...

Ben Why Dont U Post My Comments

Anonymous said...

Mr. Anon
I guess you don't have your facts straight, and you should curb your nivul peh. I was with Pinky Scheinberg, when he uttered his stupidity. If your such a stand up guy, tell us your name.

Anonymous said...

Its not important what my name is however I know the facts in all of these cases and I can tell you forsure that people posting on this blog do not have set facts and are just out to ruin people's names and families.

Just the mere fact that you refer to him as "Pinky"...This is what I am talking about,the lack of seriousness about any of these matters.

People who know about Hazmanas know they do not come from a lawyer's office.It comes directly from the Beis Din.

Anonymous said...

Have a good weekend

Anonymous said...

what happened to the comments about Fishman?

Anonymous said...

If it walks like a Hazmana, quacks like a Hazmana, looks like a Hazmana, it must be a Hazmana.

Anonymous said...

Dear Mr. Anon,
Yes while it is not correct to bash Gedolim, when you find 11 year old children crying in bed, and them telling you that someone just left them after putting his hand down their pants, and then have some Rav tell me you can't do anything because there were no 2 "aidim", I call him Pinky. and incidently, Rav Gurowitz calls him a "Mechalel Shabbos Befarhesia" since more then one pair of tzitis constitutes carrying on Shabbos.

Paul Mendlowitz said...

PROGRESS REPORT

As you all know, on February 2, 2006, I mailed a letter to many thousands of my fellow Yidden. In the letter I informed, and in some cases reminded, you that Yidi Kolko, a known child molester, was still teaching and molesting children in Yeshiva Torah Temimah with the full support, knowledge and protection of Lipa Margulies.
Shortly thereafter, on February 19, 2006, two askanim met with us to suggest that this matter be brought before a Bais Din consisting of Rabbi Shmuel Kaminetzky, Rabbi Avraham Chaim Levin and Professor Aaron Twerski. Despite my concern over one of the askin’s strong ties to Margulies and some misgivings over Roshei Yeshiva sitting as Dayonim, at the prodding of the others involved with me, I agreed.

We set a tentative Din Torah date of February 26, 2006 and at the request of others involved in this campaign to protect our children from Kolko, I agreed to hold off on any further action.

It came as no surprise to me when Margulies started backing out of every promise he made and ultimately refused to appear before this Bais Din created especially for him by his supporters.

I immediately went back to work. What will unfold in the coming weeks is not something I will enjoy but is clearly the only way to get Kolko out of the classroom. As long as people like Margulies are allowed to run yeshivas, there will be only one way to achieve justice.

My way.

When the people we have allowed to run our organizations start doing their jobs instead of simply preserving their self perpetuating power and money machines, they can have the reins back.

The Hazmana in this Post was served upon Margulies and Kolko Thursday afternoon, March 23, 2006 the 23rd Day of Adar 5766.

It is the beginning of the last chapter in the Kolko and Margulies book of atrocities. I promise you that they are finished forever.








HAZMANA TO A DIN TORAH
SUMMONS



REDACTED, on behalf of himself
and others,

Plaintiffs,

vs.


RABBI YEHUDA KOLKO, a/k/a YUDI KOLKO,
a/k/a YIDI KOLKO residing at 1249 East 22nd St.,
Brooklyn, NY 11210;
RABBI LIIPA MARGULIES, a/k/a LEOPOLD
MARGULIES residing at 617 Ocean Parkway,
Brooklyn, NY 11218;
RABBI LIPA MARGUILIES, d/b/a YESHIVA and
MESIVTA TORAH TEMIMAH f/k/a YESHIVA
TORAH VODAATH OF FLATBUSH located at
507 & 555 Ocean Parkway, Brooklyn, NY 11218,

Defendants.
___________________________________________/


Upon the request of the Plaintiffs, you are hereby summoned to appear before the Bais Din of Mechon L’Hoyroa, located at 168 Maple Avenue, Monsey, New York, or to a Bais Din of ZBLA.
If you elect to go to the Bais Din of Mechon L’Hoyroa, please contact them and advise us within seven days, via fax 1-305-931-0877, Attn: Jeff Herman, of the date, time and location that Mechon L’Hoyroa has assigned our case.
If you elect to proceed with ZBLA, please advise us within seven days, via fax to 1-305-931-0877, Attn: Jeff Herman, of the name and telephone number of your Boyrer.
Be advised that should you continue to refuse to appear before Bais Din, we are prepared to proceed with other measures in other forums.

Dated: March 23, 2006 Respectfully submitted:
23rd day of Adar, 5766
HERMAN & MERMELSTEIN P.A.
18205 Biscayne Blvd.
Suite 2218
Miami, Florida 33160
Tel: 305-931-2200
Fax: 305-931-0877

By:___________ /S/ _______________
Jeffrey M. Herman


CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE

I, Jeffrey M. Herman, served the foregoing via facsimile 1-718-438-5779 and U.S. Mail on March 23, 2006.

______________/S/___________________
Jeffrey M. Herman

Anonymous said...

UOJ:
why do you repost the same flawed, bougus hazmanah that you posted last week? Have you not read all the responses on this site? Your readers are not stupid. We all know that a hazmanah is issued by a bais din, not an attorney. Additionally, althogh not required, a hazmanah should preferably state the reason that its being issued. A hazmanah issues by a non beis din is not a hazmanah. You are very quickly loosing the faith and respect of your readers. While you are serving a noble purpose, your actions are ruining your cause and your credibility. We will not be taken for a ride by you. If you promised that you have already gone to the media, why are you still busy with these hazmanahs (or rather shall i say with these LETTERS, since they are not hazmanahs) when you know they wont go to beis din. If you are a man of your word and have contacted the media, you would not still be trying to go to beis din since you already dropped your bomb.

Anonymous said...

Please allow me to introduce myself to the readership of this blog. My name is Eli Greenwald, and I am a Torah Temimah parent with a keen interest in protecting the well being of my child as well as the health and safety of all of our children.



This comment can be printed as a comment or, if you choose as a lead post.



When the anonymous letters were distributed to a large segment of the Flatbush community, I was naturally very concerned that such a situation could exist at my child's Yeshiva. With my conscience torn between chas v'shalom falsely accusing an innocent man; yet, on the other hand, unable to rest, knowing that the lives of pure, innocent children may have been shattered in the past and could presently still be at risk, I decided that I must use every available resource to verify whether the charges as stated in the anonymous letter were accurate.



Sadly, after speaking to multiple sources, which included people intimately familiar with the Bais Din proceedings some 25 years ago, I was convinced that not only is there credible overwhelming evidence, but that Rabbi Margulies has known about the charges all these years. Though victims came forth to tell their stories of abuse, for reasons known only to G-D, proper and decisive action was not taken against Rabbi Kolko. In fact, steps were taken to besmirch the victims' reputations causing them much pain and devastation. By the way, it is my understanding that Bais Din never issued a P'sak on the matter. In addition, I have personally spoken to many victims. Their stories are very real and painful. Children should never have to live through what these and other victims have been through.



I believe that it is incumbent upon every parent to check into this matter thoroughly using his/her own resources and due diligence. I was able to verify the accuracy of the charges. I am just an individual with no special connections. If I was able to, anyone can and should. We do not have any excuses when it comes to the safety of our children!



Here is my personal story and the price that I have paid for getting involved. Believe me, it is a small price compared to what the victims have gone through and I do not mind for one second what has been done to me. Ultimately, Emes does prevail; if not on this world, then, in the next world. That is what should keep us all going and striving to do the right thing without ulterior motives.



Upon verifying the charges, I called YTT and spoke to Rabbis Applegrad and Margulies. After telling each of them during separate conversations that I found the evidence to be overwhelming, I was told that they would not be taking any action to address the situation. In fact, instead of addressing the strong concerns expressed by a long-time parent and graduate of Yeshiva Torah Temimah, a few hours later I received a Hazmana from Rabbi Kolko taking me to Bais Din (please see attached file) for being Motzei Shem Ra. Flabbergasted to say the least, I assumed that this was an intimidation tactic - something that was used very effectively during the prior Bais Din proceedings. I responded to the Hazmana by agreeing to go to a different Bais Din and have not heard back from the Torah Temimah team since.



I have deep empathy for the innocent members of Rabbi Kolko's family who will suffer as a result of what their dear loved one has wreaked upon them. I empathize with Rabbi Kolko as well and wish that he would seek the help that he so desperately needs. I do not wish to see Rabbi Kolko suffer any embarrassment and do not have any enmity towards him. My only wish is for him to be removed from his current position and that he not is allowed to regain employment around children again. Bearing this in mind, I believe that the comments on this blog should be restricted to mature, well thought out comments that contribute to the public dialogue and purpose of this blog and not childish, boorish remarks that are personal in nature and decrease the blog's effectiveness.



I have known Rabbi Kolko for quite some time and this conflict of interest has made it even more difficult for me to get involved. However, to ignore the reality would be a perversion of justice. The victims should be our ultimate consideration. Too many people at the highest levels in our leading organizations have known about this and chosen to ignore it. Trust me; I have spoken to some of those people. To those on the street who are spreading rumors about my "personal vendetta" against Rabbi Kolko, the truth is there for all that wish to see it. All you need to do is take the blinders off your eyes.



Most outrageous is how YTT handled the entire incident since the allegations were brought to their attention over 20 years ago. Instead of removing this Rebbi from the Yeshiva and giving him the help that he needed, they chose to keep him on staff and pretend that the problem didn't exist. This is truly unforgivable!



I encourage everyone to begin to sign their names to their comments and posts. I address this to UOJ as well. While I certainly understand your strategic reasons for remaining anonymous, I believe that, at some point, you should unmask your cloaks of anonymity. Yes, you have made many controversial statements in the past, many which I disagree with, and you may not want to reveal your identity, but you should do so anyway. The only REAL and EFFECTIVE way for the community to break through the wall of resistance is for concerned and involved members of the community to step forward without fear of being exposed. I am doing this today. Mr. Alster has done the same. Kudos to Attorney Elliot Pasik who has been at the forefront for quite some time. As we continue to remain ANONYMOUS, we encourage and enable those who are taking advantage of us to continue to do so. By remaining anonymous, we are recoiling in fear. This is not the proper solution to the issue.



We must begin to form parent groups for the purpose of educating ourselves and our children about this very important topic. Mr. Pasik has spoken about background checks and an internal registry, etc. These are topics and initiatives that need the grassroots support of the parent community at large. Then, and only then, will the organizations act to implement these important solutions. We need involved parents who are willing to step forward with courage despite the resistance that they are sure to encounter along the way.



Any volunteers?



Please feel free to contact me if you would like to verify the above information.



Eli Greenwald

Anonymous said...

I am informed that Chaim Dovid Zweibel Is UOJ.

Anonymous said...

The silence coming from the Kolko Margulies camp is deafening.

When will they realize that 2006 is not 1986?

This is not going away.

Anonymous said...

And I am informed that the Lubavitcher Rebbe is Moshiach.

Anonymous said...

Kolko davens at the corner of Ave L & East 22nd. What does Rabbi Weinfeld have to say about this ? Is Kolko shunned or accepted by fellow mispalellim ? What do his neighbors have to say like Fruchthandler, Twersky, etc. ?

Anonymous said...

"Please feel free to contact me if you would like to verify the above information."

contact info, please?

Anonymous said...

The silence coming from the Kolko Margulies camp is deafening.



Sure, when your shitting in your pants, it's hard to speak.

Anonymous said...

Eli Greenwald is listed in the phone book.

Anonymous said...

Jeff Herman is still signing up clients. If you, or a family member of yours, have been molested by Kolko, contact Jeff Herman at the below.

In light of the massive cover up and the tactics of intimidation engaged in by Margulies and his team, the award in this case is likely to be substantial.

Of course, any information you give, will be kept strictly confidential.


Jeff Herman

18205 Biscayne Boulevard
Suite 2218
Miami, Florida 33160

Call Toll Free

1-800-686-9921

Tel / 305-931-2200
Fax / 305-931-0877

Email: jherman@hermanlaw.com
Web: www.hermanlaw.com

Anonymous said...

Can someone explain a possible motive for Margo covering for Kolko all these years ? Why the heck would he choose such a risky route that could come back to bite him in his fat tush ? As a businessman, I would think he would cut his losses years ago and hire a new rebbe. Margo has been accused of just about every dirty and slimy trick over time and I'm not sure I would put ANYTHING past him. Does anyone know his motive ?

Anonymous said...

Not very nice bringing Yankel Pfeferkorn into this discussion.

He has a good excuse for his behavior, Kolko doesn't.

Margulies is a megalomaniac who believes he will get away with anything he does. His track record was pretty good until UOJ targeted him.

How's that for motive?

Anonymous said...

His motive is simple. "I am all great and powerful, the Yeshiva world will always respect me and I don't give a crap about any victims. Besides, who would actually believe it? I have all the kanoim on my side that will defend me ad infinitum." Let's see it will be proven otherwise. Let's see if the defenders will have the balls to keep defending him, even after the evidence is on the table and people think twice about enrolling their kids in TT.

GREATER KINGDOMS HAVE FALLEN!

Anonymous said...

Hello everyone.
My name is Lipa Geldwirth. I have known Kolko for 40 years. This story is a total fabrication by a few individuals who seek entertainment and publicity. They will all burn in hell.

And just for the record, UOJ is Eli Greenwald.

Anonymous said...

Brooklyn yeshivos should put together a contingency plan in case there's a mass defection out of the Torah Temima student body.

Paul Mendlowitz said...

Interested readers should contact Eli Greenwald for a copy of the hazmana Yisroel Belsky issued to him.

Yisroel Belsky,

I'm talking to you now...listen very carefully.

1-You knew about Kolko since the 1960's from Camp Agudah...you did nothing!
2-You were in the room and part of the bais din twenty years ago; you heard testimony from at least three of Kolko's victims, and you did nothing!
3-You are now playing along with this farce; you should have kicked Kolko out of your house on his guilty ass...you issued a bogus hazmana!

Yisroel Belsky...You will be summoned to testify in court; we have witnesses who will testify that you knew about Kolko's behavior for forty years; YOU STOOD BY AS PERHAPS HUNDREDS OF KIDS WERE MOLESTED by THIS ANIMAL!

It's no wonder your life has been relegated to the trash bin of kashrus...you are no better than the animals you supposedly supervise for kosher slaughter.
So what if their lungs are ripped out k'neged halacha...you are getting paid well to look away!

Who is paying you in the Kolko matter? Margulies, Kolko???

We'll see your corrupt ass in court!

Anonymous said...

Sruli Belsky is part of the "yeshiva" Mafia as well as Noson Scherman, no surprises here. Their G-d is money.

Anonymous said...

UOJ,

Can you post a copy of Rav Belsky's hazmonna that Greenwald provided ?

Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Below is the only eli greenwald I found listed on the web. is this the one?

Eli B Greenwald 20 Amherst St
Brooklyn, NY
(718) 648-8680

Anonymous said...

UOJ, Rabbi Belsky is not scared of you.

He is a brilliant man who has stood up against many people throughout the years.

When it came to defending Rav Moshe Feinstein's psak vis a vis an eruv in Brooklyn, Rabbi Belsky stood up to all those who harrassed him. He is not intimitated by you or anyone else.

Of course you have no respect for him, but then again, why should we expect you to respect someone who knows kol haTorah kulah and gives himself to the klal day and night.

After all, UOJ, in your eyes, that is not what is really important.
You go by a different set of standards.

The worst thing you could have done is to go after Rabbi Yisroel Belsky, bec. he is as tough as iron and will stick to his guns.

Good luck UOJ.

Anonymous said...

How come Eli Greenwald won't pick up his phone?

718 648-8680

Anonymous said...

Welcome back Kol Mevaser Peratim.....

If Rabbi Yisroel Belsky is complicit in the cover up of a chronic the child molester Kolko’s abuse of yeshiva children, why should UOJ spare him?

If Rabbi Belsky is in fact an Adam Chashuv, he will issue a loud Mea Culpa for his interference in the prosecution of Rabbi Lipa Lewis Brenner and Rabbi Yehuda Yidi Kolko.

If as you say, he is "tough as iron and will stick to his guns" he is not deserving of the title "Rabbi" and will have earned what is about to befall him and the other Cover Up Rabbis.

The secular world is not forgiving of clergy who enable pedophiles.

Anonymous said...

This is Shlomo Klein. I used to be partners with Yidi Kolko and Lippy Geldwirth in Camp Ma-Na-Vu.

I had a big fight with Lippy since he knew that Kolko was a cronic child molestor and did nothing about it. Eventually I bought them out and now own the camp myself.
Lippy Geldwirth used the money to build himself a shul (and calls himself a rov), while Kolko used all the money to pay off some molested kids.

Fags.....

Anonymous said...

Lipa Geldwerth

I'm confused. I thought Ben Hersh was UOJ. Better run back to Applegrad to look over your notes together. Maybe you can make a nice shtikel torah complete with a steerah and throw in a rab keeva eiger to be meyashev it. Throw in a nice maiseh and evrethings fine. Its all a bilbul on a choshuvah mechanech.

No wait this is much much more serious. Toirah itself is being attacked here. Evreything is muttar to save toirah.

Unfortunately, your so blinded by your own negioos I won't bother to talk to to you about the emes. One thing I would like to ask you though. Even according to you what's wrong with going to a din torah. Isn't that the yiddeshe mehalech when people have a dispute. If its all a fabrication then avader bes din is going to find like YTT and Kolko and it will all be put to rest. You should encourage Margulies and Kolko to go ledin immediately to put these fabricated charges to rest.

Why is evreyone so excited. why are Gedaliah and the Noviminsker so tzehitzt. Calm evreybody down. You know the emes. There is nothing to be afraid of. I'm sure we'll see you in bes din this week.

Anonymous said...

somebody had to write that letter for greenwald---id be suprised if he could even spell his own name---

Anonymous said...

UOJ, when you write the Kolko has molested perhaps hundreds of kids, do you mean that or is it a guzma b'alma?
I suppose anything is possible, but do you believe that and have the basis to believe it?

Anonymous said...

Agree. Bringing in Yankel Pfeferkorn into what should be a serious discussion is contemptible. Leave the poor guy alone.

As this Soap Opera unfolds, hopefully to a denouement that will roast the pedophile(s) and their protectors and serve as a catalyst to put in place a Sex Offender Registry into all of our Mosdos, it is incredible and painful to see the lack of Rabbinic Leadership in our midst.

What a sham, what hypocrisy.

These "Rabbis" who have been complicit in harboring Kolko (Agudah, Torah Umesorah, et al; you know who you are) over the last 46+ years, aiding and abetting in his continued exposure to our children, harming untold numbers, have Jewish Blood on their hands.

These same "Rabbinic Leaders" are now hard at work, busy preparing their Shabbos Hagodol Droshos. Hey Guys, when you finish writing it, go shove it.

Anonymous said...

Kolko first showed up in Camp Agudah in 1961. He spent his entire life around children. It is now 2006, forty five long years around children. The first known victim that has come forward so far as far as the Agudah's records are showing is 1963. There were two complaints made to Rabbi Teitelbaum z"l that summer. He forwarded that information to Rabbi Borchardt. As far as anyone can tell, that was the end of that.
One can only imagine the number of victims that were molested in 45 years.

Anonymous said...

uoj who is ben hirsch was molested as a child, and he has now made it his mission to attack any alleged mollester

Anonymous said...

Regarding all this talk of trying to get the Agudah to do something about the registry or Kolko ...

When will people realize that they are an exclusive club set up for communications between the Moetzes and the organization's executive brass. They put on a dinner / holiday weekend and print a magazine for public consumption, but they are not set up to deal with the public, nor do they give a rat's tuchess what any joe on the street has to say.

Stop wasting effort with the Agudath Israel of America.

Anonymous said...

To those who thought that the psots on here are real and not made up by UOJ himself:

A post under the name "justice" referred to a comment of mine earlier as coming from "Kol Mevaser...."

Now, no one would know that my previous comments had been under the name Kol Mevaser and that these comments were from me.

But somehwow this person "Justice" knew.

How?

Because "Justice" is UOJ.

Nice job. UOJ you're busted putting up posts that look like their from people when they were posted by you.

SO, for all those who think that anything written on here is being posted by the general public, think again.

No one cares to post.

UOJ sits and posts virtually all these comments - and that is how he
knew who I was.

What a phony.

Anonymous said...

i say stop wasting efforts with UOJ.

If you want to get a real effort going, do it right.

UOJ is a complete waste of time. He'll sit and blog until he's blue in the face.

Where is that going to get anyone -

You'll end up like him - fat, overweight, ugly, eating non-stop, and trying to think of things to write on his blog.

Is that who you all want to be like?

Anonymous said...

Why didn't R' Belsky write a letter of support for R' Kolko?

Can you nail R' Kolko for abusing children by hitting them and otherwise phsyically hurting them through force (pinching etc) during this process? Obviously it's a 'lesser' problem, but this may be a good time to stop that kind of abuse too. Our kids deserve better. Send a message that no abuse is tolerated anymore by anybody, even in the yiddish track.

Anonymous said...

“Too many people at the highest levels of our leading organizations have known about this and chosen to ignore it. Trust me, I have spoken to some of those people and felt very discouraged after talking to them. They have applied Midas HaRachamim to the abuser/ perpetrator while applying a strict Midas HaDin to the victims. The needs, feelings and rights of the victims as well as the safety of our innocent children have literally been ignored and left by the wayside. This is not only a shame, but is truly Midas Sedom.”

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Truer words have not been spoken. Thank you Eli Greenwald for taking a stand against Sheker.

The pulpit pounders who exude arrogance under the guise of “Kavod Hatorah” are guilty of the most heinous crime imaginable. While they put on their holier than thou act in public, in private they conspired to cover up the ongoing acts of child molestation by Kolko and Margulies.

Why did they engage in this criminal conduct? Brace yourself! The attorneys representing the umbrella organizations warned that if these “Gedolim” acknowledged the fact that they had known of Kolko’s acts of child molestation and did nothing, the resultant liability could cripple these organizations and possibly subject them to personal liability. So as a group, they decided to do nothing yet again. Kolko remained free to molest and Margulies remained free to continue his intimidation and lies.

Brace yourself yet again! THIS WAS TWENTY YEARS AGO!!!!!!!

How many children did Kolko molest since then? How many lives could have been spared the agony of being subjected to Kolko’s hell?

These “Gedolim’s” blatant violation of our sacred Torah has resulted in unimaginable anguish to countless souls.

Eli Greenwald writes of “Midas HaDin” being applied to the victims by these “Gedolim.” He is generous to imply that the Midas Sedom practiced by these “Gedolim” was remotely related to Din.

The Midas HaDin that is about to be applied to the Cover Up Rabbis will shake up our community unlike anything we have ever seen.

The child molester team of Margulies and Kolko are done for. They are gone forever. Kolko has molested his last child and Margulies has blackmailed and intimidated his last victim and Dayan. Their hell on earth will be the everlasting knowledge that they could have prevented their disaster if only they had done the right thing when they were given the chance.

The “Gedolim” cowards will get their just deserts when the depositions begin.

Notice how these outrageous frauds are “Gedolim” when it comes to taking your money and getting Kovid, yet when it comes to leadership they are suddenly “Yechidim.”

It’s time for the true Talmidei Chachamin to stand up and take the place of the frauds who have suddenly become “Yechidim.”

Anonymous said...

"Its all good"

Lay off the shcnopps. There is no way UOJ can know who is who. A blogger on this portal has no technical method of identifying those who comment, as either distinct or the same. Blogger is not set up for this sort of thing.

Anonymous said...

uoj is stupid and has no life what so ever, to think that a person is actually going out of his way in complete contempt,mind you,to hurt another person is sickening and sad. I truley pity him and his family. The mere thought of living with somebody that twisted sends chills through my body, i truley blame your father for probably beating your poor mother nightly before he went to bed, and you seeing her poor image every time you close your eyes, your hostile at the world and out for revenge. Please enclose your tehillim name and i promise to daven for you. And knocking a godel that does all he can do for hi people? What the hell is that? Who the hell do you think you are? You think your a bigger tzadik than him or know better what hashem wants? I wish the gemura that says that a pole killed the rusha who messed with shmuel doesnt come true, but i dont know i would stay indoors for now. What have we become? Are we that pathetic, to knock and embarres people that dont deserve it? If you could do it quetly, why do it loud? I feel so sorry for you people Really. Now after that being said, and it being established that the way you went about it was wrong, as for what is right and wrong, i dont think its right for there to be a rebbi in a yeshiva even if its a mashehu of a sufik that hes a molester. We're dealing with presios young innocent defenseless souls that can so easily be hurt and tainted, it should have been handled quitly in beis din without blogs and hock. Your all going to truly be punished by the ribbon kol alomim himself. I promise. May he have mercy on all your souls.

Anonymous said...

Dear Chaverim,

Eli Greenwald has eloquently written a lot of things that are also on my mind. He is an ish emes, a yirei shamayim, and I greatly admire him.

Just as I wrote about the mitzvoth of v'ahavta l'raecha kamocha (Love your friend as yourself), and lo sa'amod al dam raecha (Do not stand upon the blood of your brother), there are other mitzvoth involved here, such as teshuva (repentance) and kavod ha'rav (honoring the rabbis).

Without teshuva, the world cannot exist, and just as I pray for a refuah shleima, a perfect and speedy healing for the people affected by this mattter, I pray for teshuva for the other involved people as well.

In addition, klal Yisroel is a spiritual nation unlike any other. Our leaders are not kings, queens, prime ministers, or presidents, but instead, we have spiritual leaders who we call rabbis. Although our leaders may sometimes err, the Torah commands the mitzvah of kavod ha'rav. Is there an inconsistency? I don't think so. Only the the Ribbono Shel Olam understands the mysteries of the world. There are many areas of life which ordinary human intelligence cannot and never will understand. What we believe is error may sometimes not be error. We are also commanded not to criticize the actions of generations past.

How do I resolve these seeming inconsistencies? I, for one, cannot. Compared to the vast Torah knowledge accumulated by our gedolei Torah today, I am smaller than a speck of dust. I have in the past gladly rose in honor of some of the rabbis mentioned on this site, and I will do so again. I have studied their teachings and seforim, and will do so again.

I have always believed that having becoming moderately knowledgeable in this area, my sole function is to inject some hishtadlus, effort, into this situation, and to endeavor to become a shituf, a partner with G-d, in bringing about a tikun. I neither invented criminal background checks, nor a registry. Nor was I even the first to promote either of these two ideas. I've seen my role as a voice, however. Knowing what I know, in law, medicine, and about various incidents that have occurred, I found myself deeply, deeply troubled. I searched my conscience, and consulted with gedolei Torah. I wrote letters, emails, and made phone calls. I was given encouragement. I took some action, I have made some progress, but I have made mistakes as well. For these mistakes, I take take full and sole responsibility, and I very humbly apologize, without reservation, to anyone and everyone who has been adversely affected by any wrongful thing I have said or done. G-d forbid, I do not mean to harm any Jew, I seek only to be a small agent for helping my fellow Jews, fulfilling my personal ratzon Hashem, and bringing about positive change.

I am also optimistic. Why? Because I know there is a solution, and it is coming. This solution is called background checks and registry. I stand ready, willing and able to work with any organization or individual who would pursue this project. Our people have built so much, starting with a mishkan as we read in last week's parsha, and in more recent generations, shuls, yeshivas, and mikvaos. Surely then, we can build the mikva of background checks and a registry.

Very truly yours,

Elliot B. Pasik, Esq.
Long Beach, New York
efpasik@aol.com

Anonymous said...

I am curious, what would happen if they actually answered the hazmanah today. Would the secular press stop their story?

Anonymous said...

Your all going to truly be punished by the ribbon kol alomim himself. I promise. May he have mercy on all your souls.

You PROMISE? You know what God will do? Herein lies the problem!

Anonymous said...

I'd like to know what to tell my sons,when they say "all the kids in Shul" are talking. They want to know why everyone all of the sudden HATES R' Kolko. I told them some people don't like him. What my eight year old told me next is shocking. I feel for the first grade parents who have to deal with these comments, this is not what I sent my Children to Torah Timmima to learn about.

Anonymous said...

That is a powerful post about the umbrella organization rabbis and their lawyers being worried.

This is a plea for help - somebody, somewhere, reading this, DO SOMETHING! ITS NOT TOO LATE! THERE MAY BE CHILDREN BEING MOLESTED RIGHT NOW! BY A JANITOR - OR BUS DRIVER - OR TEACHER - OR RABBI! IF YOU HAVE ANY INFLUENCE, OR ACCESS, OR KNOW OF SOMEONE WHO DOES, PLEASE PICK UP THE PHONE, SAY WHAT HAS TO BE SAID, HAVE A MEETING, GET THE RIGHT PEOPLE INVOLVED, YOU KNOW WHO I AM TALKING ABOUT, RAISE WHATEVER MONEY HAS TO BE RAISED, WE HAVE THE MONEY, ITS DOING NO GOOD SITTING IN THE BANK. THERE ARE SOLUTIONS TO THIS! EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING IT, AND WE MUST ALSO! THIS IS ALL VERY DISTURBING, AND I AM SCARED! IF WE CAN GET ON OUR HANDS AND KNEES AND CLEAN OUR HOMES FOR PESACH, WE MUST DO THE SAME FOR OUR YESHIVAS! PLEASE, PLEASE, THIS IS ABOUT THE CHILDREN! LET'S DO THE JOB!

Anonymous said...

I join with the above anon. I am also very, very scared. Please rabbis, askonim, this blog has gone on long enough. This isn't our way. Its only necessary because we didn't take of this before. The lawyers and the people have informed you of what needs to be done. I also don't want this in the news, whether its Torah Temimah, background checks, registry. We should have done this a long time ago. But its never too late. If there are differences among you, put them aside, and for the benefit of the yiddishe kinderlach, please fix the problem, Torah Temimah, and everything else.

Anonymous said...

I hear that there will be an article in this weeks new york times magazine about jewish sexual abuse.

Anonymous said...

THE TIMES? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

Anonymous said...

sure to be a bestseller and chazered over more times than any shabbos hagadol drasha

Anonymous said...

what day is it being released?

Anonymous said...

The magazine comes out on Sunday.

Anonymous said...

I am curious, what would happen if they actually answered the hazmanah today. Would the secular press stop their story?

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Curious,

Who knows? The media does not work for UOJ. The child molestation by Kolko is not as big a story as the intimidation of victims by Margulies and the cover up by our organizations and their rabbinical boards.

Do you think the major media is walking away from a story like this?

Anonymous said...

i guess you don't get the Times too often.

(the magazine is published on Sundays, Saturday if you get home delivery)

Anonymous said...

What's the big deal about a criminal registry? In the out of town Jewish school where my friend lives every employee gets fingerprinted which is sent to the criminal registry to look for a match. It takes a few weeks and doesn't hurt anybody. This is a case of zeh nehene vze lo chusir, and anyone who is objecting has some skeletons in the closet. hapoysel, be'mumo poysel. vehamayvin yovin

Anonymous said...

It's about time these filthy bastards will be exposed for who they are. At least YU is around to give orthodox Jewry a good name......

Anonymous said...

I call first dibs on the magazine at the Ditmas Ave library. Unless Marguiles gets there first.

Anonymous said...

FOR G-D'S SAKE, AND EVERYTHING OUR PEOPLE STAND FOR, CAN SOMEBODY ON THIS BLOG CALL RABBI FISHMAN AT TORAH UMESORAH 212 227 1000, AND GET US SOME ANSWERS TO THE LAWYER'S THREE VERY GOOD QUESTIONS, PLUS ONE, WHICH MAKES IT THE FOUR QUESTIONS, VERY APPROPRIATE FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR:

1. WHAT IF ANYTHING DO YOU INTEND TO DO ABOUT YUDI KOLKO WORKING AT TORAH TEMIMAH?

2. DO YOU INTEND TO SET UP A BACKGROUND CHECK PROGRAM, AND IF SO, WHEN AND HOW?

3. DO YOU INTEND TO SET UP AN INTERNAL DISCIPLINARY SYSTEM AND REGISTRY, AND IS SO, WHEN AND HOW?

4. HOW DO YOU INTEND TO HANDLE THE MEDIA SITUATION?

I WOULD DO IT MYSELF, BUT I'M ON THE OUTS. I'M SORRY, BUT THAT'S THE TRUTH. SO, PLEASE, SOMEBODY, ANYBODY, HUMAN LIFE IS AT STAKE, I FEEL WE ARE ON THE EDGE OF PRECIPIS, AND NOBODY IS DOING ANYTHING. JUST CALL, AND THEN REPORT BACK TO US!

Anonymous said...

YU ... cough splutter gag . . . huh? where have you been the past few years.
What has now been proven is that no one is immune, reform, conservative, catholic priests, modern orthodox, yeshvish, heimish, chassidish, aguada, rca, kippa sruga, velvet, whatever, it doesn't matter.
the torah is emes and it says ayn aputropes le'aroyos; that's right, toras hashem temimah . . .

Anonymous said...

I keep calling and calling but no one picks up. They must be bracing for the storm.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I am curious, what would happen if they actually answered the hazmanah today. Would the secular press stop their story?


There is no Hazmanah to respond to. The "hazmannah" was merelt a letter issued by an attorney, not by a bais din.

only when they are served a REAL & LEGIT hazmanah will be able to tell

Anonymous said...

First the New York Times, then the weekly magazines such as Time and Newsweek, then the local TV investigative reporters, and then the national TV networks, and the International networks...boy what a round-the-world Chilul Hashem this will be.

And it could all have been stopped 40 years ago, 30 years ago, 20 years ago, 10 years ago, a year ago, last month, last week, yesterday, today, even tomorrow might still not be too late.

But our Gedolim and Rabbanim must now take quick and serious action to stop this terrible tragedy that has befallen our community.

Do you believe that once this gets out into the open things will get better? Of course not.

Every Yeshiva will be inspected, every rebbe and frum teacher will be investigated, they will ALL be called names and have accusations placed upon them, in short no one will be spared!

And all this because of a rebbe by the name of Yudi Kolko who has sexually molested and emotionally damaged and destroyed an untold amount of children over a period exceeding 40 years, again - 40 years!!!!!!! and a menuvel by the name of Lipa Margulies who has done his utmost, with great success I must add, to cover up this terrible story for over 30 years!!!!

Where are our Gedolim? I ask once again.

Is this why we call ourselves Am Segula? Is this what Hashem wants from us as his Am Kadoysh?

Excuse me, we are just as bad as the goyish neighbor down the block, or even worse than a mechalel shabbos befarhesya. We have let a pedophile who calls himself a rebbe be around our children for over 40 years and now we are all going to have to pay for the cover-up.

We are ALL guilty.

Remember, we all had a chance to do Teshuva, but we all failed the test. And now we are going to pay and pay BIG TIME.

Oy Me Hayah Lanu?

Anonymous said...

"At least YU is around to give orthodox Jewry a good name......"

Hey chochom,

Are you talking about shining examples like the Tendlers ? Or the YU rabbis at OU / NCSY who let Lanner get away with it for years while children were being abused & scarred for life ?

Anonymous said...

I posted this earlier, but it was in the comments section of another topic that's kind of stale dated:

I am one of the people who recently had a chat with Rabbi Fishman. While it is to be expected that organizational figures will try to spin things, I am getting increasingly concerned just how forthcoming and honest Rabbi Fishman was with me and the community. Rabbi Fishman did not indicate the planned meeting with Pasik was regarding tuition. He told me it was regarding the registry. He labeled Pasik's "excuses" for not showing up as "strange", commenting that he feels the attorney "may have another agenda". After that whole introduction, he mentioned that Pasik said he fell.

After getting the Torah Umesorah version of the account, I found out that rabbis at other organizations had been warning Rabbi Fishman for at least a year or two before even Elliot Pasik is said to have gotten involved (2001).

If any child in the day school network has been abused as a result of this lackadaisical leadership, it's high time for resignations.

Anonymous said...

We are not an "Am Kodosh." Isn't this evident enough? Our own "leaders" perpetuate this despicable cover-up. It's about time people realized that we have no competent leadership and "Daas Torah" is at best, highly incompetent and at worst, a crock of s**t.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
UOJ, when you write the Kolko has molested perhaps hundreds of kids, do you mean that or is it a guzma b'alma?
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Hey you TIPISH,
If your daughter or son was molested, would you second guess it by asking if the numbers were a *GUZA BEALmA*?
Go back on crack , it seems your having bad withdrawl symptoms.

Anonymous said...

There is no Hazmanah to respond to. The "hazmannah" was merelt a letter issued by an attorney, not by a bais din.

only when they are served a REAL & LEGIT hazmanah will be able to tell

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Kolko the molester sits in a classroom and this moron is attempting to split hairs about the caption on a hazmana.

Only TT could produce such krumkeit.

Anonymous said...

anon;

You are clueless and hopeless.
Take your theoretical guzma be'alma and shove it up your tuchis. Now that would takeh be ah guzma.

Gross: You're spot on. "Crock O' Shit" is right. Good title for a Shabbos Hagodol Drosho. How about it, shmuel bloom?

Anonymous said...

Gross:

A poor choice in leaders does not detract from our status. It merely puts into question our trusting nature.

Anonymous said...

When will you schmucks realize that this whole "gedolim" business is one big joke? They use you to make money, and they're all in on the joke. The joke's on you!

Anonymous said...

The few Gedolim you are reffering to, are actually Asher Yatzar Gedolim . There are but a handful of True gedolim still around. Not more then a handful though.

Anonymous said...

I have a criticism for everybody, myself included, who reads this blog and supports getting rid of Kolko.
Nobody has come forward like Greenwald, Alster, & Pasik. Are we all afraid to name ourselves? Can we expect anything to change if we do not? The only way to change our current situation is to hit "our leaders" where it counts! Cut off their funding.

Here is my plan.
I will be starting a new blog. It will be a petition blog where you will give your name and address. I will then take this petition and hand deliver it to the leaders of Moetzes, Agudah, OU.

By signing it you will also agree to hold back all funding for their organizations pending their taking action in this matter and setting a independent investigative body to handle future claims. I will not be including Toarh Umesorah. They are strictly and advisory body to the frum schools. I do not think it is their place to do anything more than issue suggestions/guidlines and training material.

What do the readers of this blog think?

Anonymous said...

On Thursay the seven days requested by Attorney Jeffrey Herman in his Hazmana lapses.

What then?

Anonymous said...

Hey UOJ,

What's next on your schedule?

I don't see Kolko nor Margulies in a panic.

I thought that you said that by Purim Kolko and Margulies would be finished? Well that has come and gone.

What about this so called Hazmana?

Aren't you barking up the wrong tree?

Do you really expect them to respond to such a "Summons" from some lawyer sitting in sunny Miami and not licensed to practice in NYS?

And what if they don't respond?

What are you going to do then, call out the dogs?

Why doesn't someone contact the Board of Education, Child Services, or even the FBI?

What about contacting the local police? They're only a 5 minute drive away from YTT.

And who gave you the right to speak to the media? Are you looking for a financial windfall from the publication and movie rights?

Anonymous said...

Why doesn't someone contact the Board of Education, Child Services, or even the FBI?

What about contacting the local police? They're only a 5 minute drive away from YTT.

And who gave you the right to speak to the media? Are you looking for a financial windfall from the publication and movie rights?

Hey you big mouth,
Why dont you make that *SOMEONE*
yourself
The police station is 5 minutes away , so YOU go knock on thier door yourself.
What have you done so far about this case other than curse out uoj that is litterally putting himself on the line.
Talk the Talk or shut up.
Uoj has a plan going here . If you dont agree with his plan and you certainly have the right not to , then go open your own blog.

Anonymous said...

I am responding to the poster who will start a petition blog. There was a petition called endthemadness(now?) and they got a bunch of signatures together over the web. Why don't you follow their strategy and other's strategy and I'll sign it. I don't think people will be comfortable having their name listed though. Maybe you can have an option where some people's name is listed while others are blocked out but represented with initials or something so everyone can see they exist.

Anonymous said...

Totally agree with the boycott suggestion. Let us know when the blog goes up.

Anonymous said...

Hey Big Mouth,

Where do you see that I cursed out UOJ.

I was just asking questions.

Seems as if you have a major problem, so go climb a tree and yell a little. But don't take it out on someone who asks some resonable and straightforward questions.

Anonymous said...

As i said go make that *SOMEONE* yourself.
The police are 5 minutes away as you precisely put it.

Anonymous said...

** I do not think it is their place to do anything more than issue suggestions/guidlines and training material.**
I totally agree with you in try to make a petition to stop funding, but i also very much disagree with you about tora umsora not being part of this. They are very much part in this .
I have a felling you have ties with them and this is why you want them to stay clean.
Tora umesora is the backbone to most schools and to say they have nothing in this is totally ludicrious!
They new about this situation for many many years and that makes them very much part in this!

Anonymous said...

to x tt parent said...
I do not have any ties to Torah Umesorah and I don't know what you mean that they are the backbone. I am just saying that I have never heard of a case that Torah Umesorah forced any school in brooklyn to do anything. Have you?

The problem we have is that the schools in brooklyn are privately owned. The boards are shams. A yeshiva should never have been allowed to be somebodys business.

And to the anonymous who suggested not adding names to the petition, nobody will believe a petition without names. How would they know whether it is one person posting 1000 times or 1000 people? I want to post names and addresses to my petition.

Judgeing from the response to my post I don't have enough people willing to step to the plate.

Anonymous said...

I guarentee you that as soon as kolko/ margo get put onto your PLATE. many more will be more comfortable in signing petitions.
It is still too early and ppl are very weary of signing and for good reason.

Anonymous said...

weary means tired, I think you meant wary which means apprehensive. nothing personal

Anonymous said...

yes , thank you for pointing that out. i was weary when i wrote it but i meant wary.

Anonymous said...

There are a lot of people sitting on the fence right now who need to see something more tangible.

There have been rumors that Margo is refusing to cooperate with Reb Shmuel Kaminetzky & Reb Avrom Chaim Levin.

Since I doubt one of these roshei yeshiva would issue a letter confirming that, my suggestion is that some maverick, but credible rabbi speak to Reb Shmuel to confirm it, and that he issue a letter stating what Reb Shmuel told him. It may not be easy finding an independent thinking rabbi who isn't a spineless coward, but they do exist. Maybe Reb Dovid Cohen ? Maybe someone from the Monsey beis din that ostracized Tendler ? They also say that Rav Plutchok from Derech Chaim is a fair person who is sympathetic to victims of injustice and has personally intervened in certain cases.

I would sign a petition if a single rov who is credible says an investigation is required and I suspect I would be joined by multitudes.

After that ... Build the blog & they will come. Build the blog & they will sign.

Anonymous said...

shame that rabbi a miller and rav pam are no longer with us . they would be the perfect candidates for this

Anonymous said...

congrats on the 100 mark , keep on truckin

Anonymous said...

Maybe Rabbi /doctor twersky would be a good candidate.
He has written books about our failed yeshiva system.

Anonymous said...

Rav Plutchok from Derech Chaim is a fair person who is sympathetic to victims of injustice and has personally intervened in certain cases

There's one little problem with Plutchok - he's a nobody; and nobody cares what he says.

Anonymous said...

hey ouj tough guy----margo and kolko are still in tt---ha ha ha

Anonymous said...

I've just begun to read this blog and I feel sick.

What is the Jewish community waiting for? Why isn't everyone demonstrating outside Yeshiva Torah Temimah demanding at least an investigation if not the immediate dismissal of this Rabbi Kolko, pending a full investigation.

In halacha a child molester is a Rodef and one must do everything to rid oneself of such a person. Why is he therefore still in the Yeshiva and why is he in close daily contact with young boys?

Why is there a cover-up?

Robosai, young Yiddeshe children have been destroyed, emotionally murdered, their souls to suffer pain and anguish for the rest of their lives - what are you all waiting for?

Where is our supposed leadership?

Where are our so-called Gedolim?

Where is Torah U'mesorah, the Agudah, the OU, the Va'ad Harabanim????????

Where are our Yiddishe morals?

Are we like the goyim, no see, no hear, no talk - Eynayim lahem v'lo yir'u, Oznaim lahem v'lo yishma'u, Pe lahem v'lo yidabeiru?

Anonymous said...

a friend of mine suggested i take notice of this blog.whats shocking here is that, a-the community does nothing, b-the board of ed. doesn't step in and take over the school, c-that there are any kids left in the school.

Anonymous said...

Rav Plutchok doesn't run a mainstream yeshiva, but he's still a respectable talmid chochom. Most importantly, there's no baloney or ulterior motives with him. I wouldn't discount him so easily. It also seems that at this point, the victims need all the help they can get.

Anonymous said...

Plutchok = Scheinberg = coverup.

Anonymous said...

Where is our supposed leadership?

Where are our so-called Gedolim?

Where is Torah U'mesorah, the Agudah, the OU, the Va'ad Harabanim????????
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Our "leadership" are busy covering their asses.

Our "Gedolim" are busy screaming about "Kavod Hatorah" (in other words, my word is the word of G-d) and "Lashon Harah" (in other words, don't say anything bad about me) while Margulies scrambles to protect his assets and Kolko sits in a classroom full of kids.

Our organizations are the tools used by these people. Both Torah U'mesorah and Agudah knew about this pedophile decades ago and covered it up.

Anonymous said...

The reliable word from Philadelphia is that R' Shmuel Kaminetsky has given up on Margulies. He has advised and urged the plaintiffs to go to court.

Anonymous said...

Can someone please explain to me what exactly is an "asher yatzar" godol?

Anonymous said...

RE: Kolko & Margulies fiasco:

Is it muttar to enjoy watching them fall? I sure hope so. Ah!

Anonymous said...

"Can someone please explain to me what exactly is an "asher yatzar" godol?"

Anon, this is a phrase coined by UOJ to describe the present day gedolim, use your imagination.

Anonymous said...

UOJ is crazy as a fox. He went the bais din route to make a point to the Margo supporters. He knows that they wont show..or stall or krechts. By that time the court papers will have been served and the whole world gets to see the criminals for what they are, criminals.

Anonymous said...

If Reb Shmuel Kaminetzky gives permission to haul Margo's fat butt into court, he would put it in writing. Let's see the letter. Circulate the letter around and whatever exists of Margo's "reputation" and Torah Temima will take a trouncing.

Anonymous said...

It's quite interesting that it is almost a full week since UOJ added new material to the blog. The last few posts were of little or no meaning at all. The last one was the so to speak "hazmanah" which was nothing but a sham. The one before that was about Rabbi Scheinberg's grandson. While this is a topic in of itself, it seems that UOJ has nothing new to say about torah temimah so he needs to focus his attention elsewhere so it should not look like he has been defeated. He promised ut that by Purim heads would roll. It is now rosh chodesh nissan, 2 weeks later, and all is seemingly quiet on his end. While valid points were raised on the blog, it is time for us to realize that it is not acheiving its goal. It is time to move on.

Anonymous said...

This will be us next week. Get used to it. That school, FSU or something acted less harmfully than YTT and the coverup was only for 3 years. Regardless of actual guilt or a guilty verdict at trial followed by a life sentence, media coverage like this is going to turn our entire world upside down.
http://www.hermanlaw.com/html/video.html

Anonymous said...

My opinion after conducting my own investigation is that the claims of abuse committed by Kolko are very credible. I have personally looked victims in the eyes and can feel their pain as they talk of the horrific events that occurred.

(Letter from Attorney Jeff Herman to Mendy Cohen, 3/29/2006)

Anonymous said...

Okay, I give up. What is an asher yazar godol? (If I were able to figure it out myself I wouldn't be asking!)

Anonymous said...

Just got the update from some of my friends that got back from TOMO for Pesach.

TOMO quietly launched an investigation into alleged male-male sexual activity and sexual abuse in and around the yeshiva.

So far no announcements or public comments have been made by Meisalman.

Apparently one morning they confiscated all the colored boxers in the dorm during Seder.

It sound ridiculous but it’s entirely true. One of my friends, that only wears Joe Boxer’s, had to purchase Israeli nylon boxers after Meisalman took away all his underwear.

The raid is, supposedly they were kicking around the idea of forcing the guys to wear sweat pants in and around the dorms and while sleeping.

One consequence of the dorm searches is that they found a few John Grisham book's lying around and launched an immediate Gestapo style interrogation of the entire yeshiva. After being ratted out, three boys were told not to come back after Pesach.

A fourth boy was expelled for circulating information that was on this blog.
He to was ratted out.

From what I hear Meisalman believes the allegations must have been circulated by another less successful yeshiva to besmirch TOMOs reputation.

The members of the faculty accused of abuse still remain in position.

If I learn anything new, I will post it.

Anonymous said...

Ben Where U Going To Be Pesach By Your Shver? Oh I Forgot Your Divoced I Wonder Why Enjoy Life

Ronnie Schreiber said...

I've used my imagination, and it seems to me that "asher yatzer" is a reference to excretatory functions.

Anonymous said...

2 questions that haven't been directly addressed here:

Has there ever been a complaint made about Kolko to police or a federal, state or local agency ?

Why can't someone get a beis din together to nail Kolko on the kol that has been clinging to him for decades like fliegelach to a shtik dreck ? These days you can get any half-bit beis din together for any issue. Look, if Tendler can pull a corrupt beis din out of his hat to do his bidding and Yehuda Levin sits down with 2 guys to put Joe Lieberman in chayrem, surely something as serious as child molestation can get the time of day that it needs.

Anonymous said...

Margo’s Conscious,

There was a Bais Din prepared. Margulies and Kolko backed out of their agreement to appear. The next step is formally demanding they appear before an established Bais Din. That’s being done now.

Anonymous said...

To the person who asked what is *asher yatzar gedolim*?
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You obviously are not using your imagination.
I will (try) to spell it out.
# 1=ketanim # 2 = gedolim.
Just add Asher yatsar to any of the above.
I hope i was not to graphic here.

Anonymous said...

What a sad state of affairs. Eli Greenwald, a courageous yachid, understands the need to publicly express the truth that our rabonim and organizations are hiding. Our rabonim and organizations, who we pay to represent the kahal, understand only the threat to their existence. They completely disregard the ongoing danger to our children and the absolute travesty of justice being perpetrated daily. Do they not believe in an ultimate din v’cheshban?

Anonymous said...

I do not give my name here, because as others have written explicityly, or at least implied, I am unhappy about the nivel peh, the verbal assaults on gedolei Torah, and other excesses. But right is right, and wrong is wrong, and the situation existing not only at Yeshiva Torah Temimah is not only so terribly wrong, so is the situation existing in our entire community.

WHERE IS THE PETITION THAT I CAN SIGN? TO THE BLOGGER WHO SUGGESTED IT, PLEASE, SET IT UP, AND ANNOUNCE THE SITE OR BLOG WHERE PEOPLE LIKE ME CAN SIGN OUR NAMES! I ALSO LIKED THE LANAGUAGE THAT ANOTHER BLOGGER SUGGESTED FOR THE PETITION! PLEASE, DO IT!

Anonymous said...

I agree wholeheartedly with the above anon. I too am terribly distressed by this matsav. I want to sign my name somewhere, provided that the right words and tone are used.

Rabbosai, we can turn a chillul H' into a kiddush H'. This is what a petition can do. If the media is watching, they will see the good stuff that Jews are made of. Will someone please set up the petition, with alacrity?

Anonymous said...

People are making arrangements to take their kids out of TT next year. hundreds of kids will be leaving, the big boss doesn't know it yet.

Anonymous said...

UOJ, maybe the originator of the computer idea is not seeing all these posts right now, so since you probably have some computer skills, why don't you set it up. I even think there's a petition website around of some type that you can utilize.

Small suggestion, UOJ: don't announce your UOJ name on the petition itself, because that will discourage signers. Announce it, yes, and don't take credit for it either. The less you have to do with it the better. Some people have issues with your tactics, as I'm sure you know by now, but they still believe in the cause.

I think the petition is a good direction for this blog to go to.

Anonymous said...

This may sound a bit strange But Some thing tells me that Margo is behind this petition .Because he knows that the petition will not nail him personally . Secular court however will nail all the rabbonim that have been covering up, which he is very worried about. So as a choice he would prefer the petition The lessor of the 2 evils i guess.

Anonymous said...

Dear All,

Endthemadness.org is for shidduchim. Will a brave soul please create Endthedisgrace.org?

Race is on!

Anonymous said...

"People are making arrangements to take their kids out of TT next year. hundreds of kids will be leaving"

So if Margo sees he's going to take a financial hit, would that prompt him to sacrifice Kolko ?

Anonymous said...

Margo thinks the petition won't nail him personally ?

We can fix that easily. Word the petition that he's just as responsible and must lose his empire if found guilty.

There's a no-good crook in Flatbush who once ran the biggest fraud in the yeshiva industry. He was jailed and reportedly banned by court order from ever owning another yeshiva or camp, etc. Even though he still owns a camp through a front man, it's better than nothing.

Anonymous said...

I still do not see how a petition will nail Margo personally.
Do you mean through Bais din? that will never happen and you know it damn well.
Only way trhis will be dealt with the right way is through the secular system.
The petition should be that Margo Must meet in a Bais din within the next 72 hours or else its going to secular court and all the signers will be in court to show him that we will not stand for his games.

Anonymous said...

72 hours from when X petitioners have signed. Of course men women and children are allowed to sign. How could it be that we wouldn't let a 15 year old victim sign for his own protection?
X will have to be a substantial number. . . is 500 enough, should we go for a thousand? any thoughts?

Anonymous said...

I saw Cocoa by a vort tonight. He is holding on - doesn't look like he's been broken yet.

If anything, I think margo could crack before Cocoa.

either way, an article in the new yorker or anywhere else will not do much.

people will read it, they'll be disturbed for a week or two, and then everyone will go back to watching baseball.

the only way to succeed is criminally, and that will simply not happen with anyone. It won't. No one is going to court, bec. as of now, noone has come with info to the public. everything is behind the scenes.

so this thing will drag on and on...
and that'll be it.

what happened to the Purim deadline?

These deadlines are becoming one big joke.

Anonymous said...

if anyone thinks that eli greenwald is doing this leshaim shomayim they are terribly wrong--eli greenwald had his backside kicked out of ma-na vu by kolko years ago and it wasnt pretty--eli greenwald writes in his post that this is not a personal vendetta against kolko--i find it very ironic that the one person who signs his name to a post and is ecouraging people over here and claims to be doing this for all our little children is the same person who kolko kicked out of ma-na-vu.People,do your homework on eli greenwald before coming to any conclusions over here.

Anonymous said...

Kol RDSDBQX:

This is not a fishing site. You want to go on a fishing expedition, go to Sheepshead Bay and take a boat.

But, the boats leave on a schedule. If you arrive after the deadline, you might sit around for a while before you realize the boat has already left, right on schedule.

Peratim Yavaiu

Anonymous said...

The local TV stations and local papers is the only way to go for starters.
At least the ball will begin to roll and maybe some heads too.
Some one mentione that Rav Kaminetsky gave up on on margo in bais din? Well if this is true ,then where is this in writing?
What about Rabbi Levine from chicago? CAn someone very if this is infact true?

Anonymous said...

Sign the petition. Keep our children safe.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Kol RDSDBQX:

This is not a fishing site. You want to go on a fishing expedition, go to Sheepshead Bay and take a boat.

But, the boats leave on a schedule. If you arrive after the deadline, you might sit around for a while before you realize the boat has already left, right on schedule.

Peratim Yavaiu

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Anonymous,

Are you related to Justice? Bec. he also seemed to know that I am Kol Mevaseir.

Hmmmm..... I wonder how.

UOJ, any answers? Mtaching up ISPs?

Or do you choose to comment to people's posts under "anonymous"?

Anonymous said...

Hey...

I just wanted to send you this link to an online petition on Petition
Spot, Keep Our Children Safe.

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/keepourchildrensafe

Anonymous said...

This is a better petition site, less pritzus.... http://www.petitiononline.com/5891ham/petition.html
same petition.

Anonymous said...

you get a free ipod after you sign :)

Anonymous said...

They claim that they never send email to you or sell the addresses. Additionally, you can sign and choose to keep your email address private. They make their money and keep the service free by placing ads on the petition homepage.

Anonymous said...

Everyone should email this petition to their friends. It is fairly innocuous, and there should be no reason to fear signing it.

Anonymous said...

The online petition is worthless - plain and simple.
You don't know who you're up against.

Anonymous said...

To the petition pessimists:

Never underestimate the power of a moral voice. We've had voices before...Avrohom Aveinu...Moshe Rabeinu...Rav Ahron Kotler...Rav Yoshe Ber Soloveitchik...

These were all great men who swam against the tide. Who stood for principle. Who would not be swayed by politics.

Once we had m'raglim. Ten out of twelve returned with a negative report. For being pessimists, for failing to have faith in both G-d and themselves, we have been punished with many catastrophes.

Before G-d destroyed S'dom, He asked Avrohom if there were any good men there.

Are there any good men in Brooklyn? In New York? In America?

Sign the petition, damn it.

Anonymous said...

I am not 'against the petition.' I just think that it is not strong enough to produce the desired, immediate effect. Only secular media and a lawsuit can, in my opinion, effect a real response/change - especially with regards to the specifics of this particular case.

Anonymous said...

UOJ, Can you link to the petition as a new post?

Anonymous said...

why can't you lend support to the bes din proceedings, media coverage and lawsuit by signing the petition? It's another prong in the attack. This is the voice of the community. Speak out, show your disapproval in the current hefker velt. Me Lashem Alay - and they were the Leviim. You hear? if you want to be a Shevet Levi it's not about learning in kollel, it's about taking a stand for ratzon Hashem and making a nachas ruach. This is history in the making, be a part of it.

Anonymous said...

As my father would say,

Sign, it can't hurt.

Anonymous said...

Well the petition is off to a rousing start - 6 signatures (myself among them) so far, with one duplication. It's nice to know so many people care. UOJ -keep it up, clearly a lawsuit is the only way to go here.

Anonymous said...

Whoever wrote the nusach for the petition:

Can't you consult a dictionary for something this important ?

There is no such word as "ostrazation". The word you're looking for is ostracism. Unzere chevra are going to look bad enough in the upcoming articles in gossip magazines. Will you please fix the spelling before we're also portrayed as a laughing stock ?

Thanks

Anonymous said...

Never underestimate the power of a moral voice. We've had voices before...Avrohom Aveinu...Moshe Rabeinu...Rav Ahron Kotler...Rav Yoshe Ber Soloveitchik...

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How does JB fit into this list?

Unless you mean the bais halevi...

Anonymous said...

"How does JB fit into this list?"

Kavod harav extends to the blog, and you would do better not to refer to one of our authentic, towering gedolei Torah as "JB". Now I'll answer your question, which is chutzpahdik, because the answer seems so obvious.

The Rav joined Yeshiva University at a time when it was considered traif by many other gedolei Torah. He could have gone anywhere, but didn't. He even could have been Chief Rabbi of Israel, but preferred to stay at YU. In doing so, he stayed true to his principles, and built RIETS and YU into the great mosod it is today.

The Rav was also the sole dissenter from the proclamation of other gedolei Torah who barred orthodox participation in the Synagogue Council of America. When the SCA crumbled, the Jewish Observer proclaimed victory, but who knows what great things might have been accomplished in certain realms had all orthodox streams participated in the SCA? We'll never know.

I included Rav Aharon Kotler because he stayed true to his Torah lishmah principles, and built Lakewood. His Vaad Hatzalah activities, during the Holocaust, have also been long recognized.

You should apologize for two things: JB; and the question itself.

Anonymous said...

Can i ask why you havent critisized Rabbi Shmuel Fuerst and Rabbi Zev Cohen of Chicago who paskneed that a parent couldnt take her child's molestor to the police?

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Anonymous said...

know this is not a uoj issue, but there is another terrible scandal going on in monsey. shloime greenbaum, the absentee menahel of ysv, who hasnt been menahel in 20 years but was given an honorary job at of sympathy to his father, now wants to bring his son, a full fledged skverer chossid, into ysv. the board is freaking out.the skverer son was asked h'ow can you become principal of a modern school, you will have to talk to women?" skverer replied "i ken talk to a vimen"
greenbaum has now asked for 5 million dollars, pracically the entire amount being held in the building fund as the price for him to leave, or hes threatning a "din torah"
it seems hes a real talmid of his rebbe

10:36 PM


Anonymous said...
To Anonymous:

Your disclosure regarding Greenbaum is not surprising. YSV like most Yeshivos is a private business that hides behind the IRC and provides no disclosures.

In fact, YSV (like most yeshivos) does not file a Form 990 with the IRS. Go to Guidestar and do a search on your favortie yeshiva and it is likely that the school is operating as a church. The b.o.d. goes along.

It would be interesting to know how much SG has been paid in the last 20 years.

Anonymous said...

I was wondering if you still send your child to Torah Temimah or you have removed since these incidents resurfaced ?

Anonymous said...

greenwld:

please tell me what all of a sudden caused you along with the creator of this sinfull blog to wake and attack kolko now... considering it has been quiet for so many years..?

I have to say you almost had me convinced with greenwalds letter. It wasn't untill I read what you wrote about a chashuva Rosh HaYeshiva did i have to reconsider . There is no excuse for your bizoyon tolmiday chochomim and loshon hora
-- Please , tell me which Rabbonim you have supporting your call for action ??? and dont give me the lame answer that their ALL rabbonim these days are corrupt.

please - bringing your problems to the interent won't solve anything--- only chilul hashem and loshon hora can come out of this....

Anonymous said...

Ok, my comment is simple. Kolko did his thing behind the door in his science class that he used to teach. He would keep his "target" in and send the rest out ahead. That was in his Torah Vodaas days in the little white yeshiva building on Ocean Parkway between Caton and Church aves. Then his thing in Camp Agudah was done in his room in the old 'colonial building'. "Yuddy" then would go out and show the kids how to throw a curveball and be a head counselor. Some role model... So for those of you trying to expose him well guess its ironic how he tried to expose others, and now he is geting his..

Anonymous said...

I was never sexually abused but did suffer phyiscal and mental abuse at the hands of Yidi Kolko. He was a bully - terrorizing children in his class, his school and his camp. While this is awful for his family, I must say the shame this is causing could not have happened to a more deserving person.

Anonymous said...

Yuddy - guess what dont bend down to pick up the bar of soap - ya just never know. You have disgraced the 'frummer' -