An Important Reader Writes......
On Septpember 24, 2003, Torah U'Mesorah, The National Society for Hebrew Day Schools, the umbrella organization for more than 700 yeshivas and day schools in the United States and Canada, that teach Torah and general studies to more than 200,000 Jewish children, sent out a confidential 3-page document regarding child sex abuse to all of their member schools. Relevant excerpts appear below:
"At recent meetings of the Rabbinical Board of Torah Umesorah, attended by Rav Dovid Feinstein, Rav Yitzchok Feigelstock, Rav Aharon Feldman, Rav Shmuel Kamenetsky, Rav Aryeh Malkiel Kotler, Rav Avrohom Chaim Levin, Rav Yaakov Perlow and Rav Aaron Schechter, shlita, the following statement concerning a painful issue was issued:
We address ourselves to the problem of child molestation in our community. A small number of individuals have caused untold pain to many children, primarily varying in age from three to fourteen. In addition to the sins which they have committed, they have created painful memories in the minds of their victims, memories which can have a devastating lifetime impact.
It is incumbent upon everyone to use every means to stop these violations of children, including, at times, exposing the identities of the abusers and even their incarceration....."
Rabbi Elyashiv Comments.....
A ruling by Rabbi Yosef Shalom Elyashiv appears in Yeshurun, a compendium of articles on Halacha, in which the rabbi says it is permissible, in certain cases, to hand over a child abuser to the American police. Elyashiv, considered the most important interpreter of Halacha by Ashkenazi Haredim, said that it was permitted to inform the government in cases in which, "It is clear that he has committed a foul deed, and that this [informing] constitutes a sort of repair of the world." Elyashiv adds another condition, according to which the situation must be that, "Someone is abusing a boy or girl such that we are unable to stop him from continuing his evil actions."
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50 comments:
So why didn't the gedolim themselves make an anonymous blog to fulfill their command of "...exposing the identities of the abusers and even their incarceration....."?
Because the gedolim are scared out of their minds of UOJ and his gang.
They know what's coming. They are running for the hills!
UOJ -
I'm a yeshiva prinicpal, and I'm impressed that you got your hands on this confidential document. The Torah U'Mesorah standards came under the cover letter of Exec. V.P. Rabbi Joshua Fishman dated September 24, 2003, and the saluation clause states, "Dear Principal,"
Rabbi Fishman's letter itself states, "This document should be maintained with a sense of confidentiality. It should only be shared with your educational administrative and teaching staff."
Good detective work, sir.
You have a lot of supporters among the chinuch professionals. We all read your blog. Torah Temimah is totally irresponsible for employing a known pedophile, and placing children's lives in grave danger. Tisku l'mitvos.
This is outflippingrageous. Torah U'Mesorah owes every parent with children in those 700 schools an apology. The language of the letter ("use every means to stop these violations") was undermined by their instructions to restrict the information to staff and faculty alone. What possible justification could TU have for not informing the community at large?
My guess is that most schools did not share the letter with faculty, as many faculty members are also parents.
Wow! Wow! Wow! This is important! Can it get more important than this?
You've uncovered a critical document. I've read the words written by the eight Torah U'Mesorah gedolim very carefully -
"...incumbent upon everyone to use every means to stop these violations of children, including, at times, exposing the identities of the abusers..."
"Incumbent" means morally obligatory.
"Everyone" includes every Jew.
"Every means" includes a blog on the Interent.
"Exposing the identities of the abusers" means naming names.
Lipa, fire this man already. Its enough! G'nig!
Is anything being done or is life just moving along? Nobody is getting fired, nobody is quitting, nobody is getting arrested, nobody is being taken to court. Letters to the community didn't accomplish anything. I guess that's just life....read, weep, and move along.
Above Anon....
Weep..the tragedy is being compounded; they "all" will pay dearly for their participation in the cover-up.
Watergate...a "presidency" toppled over the cover-up.
Here's my promise to the Jewish world.
Margulies, Kolko and company will get the most devastating afikomen present...shockwaves will reverberate around the global frum world!
I know everyone is curious to see results; they are coming in a well planned out manner by experienced professionals. No willy nilly punishment...no more warnings...all the ten makas combined into one, just in time to be m'vaar the chometz along with all the criminals involved in this matter.
"ain biur chametz ela sreifa"
Of course, you won't have the guts to post this.
OH, SUDDENLY YOU are willing to quote these gedolim.
for weeks you've bashed all of them.
Ben Hirsch, you're amazing.
You parade like nothing is doing, and then you lock yourself in your room, get on the phone with the guys who are helping you, and start going crazy in your "holy caompaign".
How can I believe you are sincere when you post immaturity and vulgarity and make a mockery of any establishgment in the frum community?
Which person on a serious and important mission would handle it the way you have?
When I wrote my letter to the Yated, I wondered if you would actually read it and post it/ After all, the letter didn';t co0ntain immaturity or vulgarity. Hence the shock at seeing it posted.
Let us see if you post my letter in this week's Yated.
Chances are, you won't pick up on the irony.
It is okay. You are enjoying the attention too much.
You are a celebrity amongst an eclectic group of people - BUT YOU CAN'T EVEN enjoy it bec. you don't want to publicly admit you identity!
It must be killing you inside.
You are so scared to tell people who you really are. You are a wimp.
If you had guts, you would come out publicly, and take on Rabbi Marguliesss and his rebbi face to face.
But you are apparentlyt a coward, which is why you won't post this. Which is okay, as long as you get this message.
we know where you are and what you're up to.
Stay in touch,
because soon we'll meet face to face - and it'll be one special moment for all to witness.
Continued luck....
We have just read the obituary of Torah Umesorah.
How can they let Kolko remain in the classroom of a member yeshiva?
hey
pratim -- kol -- double -- koops
yes were keeping score too
you sound conflicted, its ok. this is not easy for any of us. don't get so worked up about the purim shpeil. thats all it was a purim shpiel even though it contained many bitter truths and ironies. use your sechel. look at reality. look at what the gedolim and the halacha say about these issues. don't get carried away with personalities. its not about ben hersh, OUJ, Pasik, herman, charlie hynes, eliott spitzer, the FBI, kolker, the new york times, the forward, hella winston or richard condon. its about our children, our taire yiddeshe kinderlach, our most precious assets that we have to protect with all of our hearts and souls from the atrocities committed against them by kolko and margulies.
youve come a long way. you'll get there.
Hatzlacha
Hey Lipa you filthy shaigetz....
These are your boys...how are you going to shut these guys up?
Your screwed buddy boy...get fitted for an orange "rekel" jumpuit...don't forget the gartel.
UOJ:
The most shocking aspect of this ongoing saga is the ineptitude of Lipa Margulies and Yidi Kolko.
Abba Eban once famously said that the "Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Apparently the same applies to Margulies and company.
You have given them advance notice of your intentions and offered them a simple solution to this problem.
Yet, Margulies the enabler and Kolko the paraphiliac choose to stare disaster in the eye and do nothing.
As I recall, you promised to mail a letter to the entire Jewish community in Brooklyn if Margulies neglected to fire the molester from his yeshiva. Margulies ignored you and 20,000 letters later he seems to be making the same mistake again.
Do you think he has never heard of the calm that settles before a storm? Has he not read of people sunbathing on the beach while Tsunami waves head towards them at 500 miles an hour? Does he even comprehend what is about to befall him?
Perhaps he thinks this will end the same way the previous attempts to oust Kolko the molester did. Intimidation and lies worked before, Ma Nishtana?
Tell Lipa that while he has grown complacent, his victims have built lives for themselves and grown strong. Strong enough to say “Daiyanu.” Try to explain the camaraderie that exists between victims of Kolko who are now grandparents and those still in their teens. Describe the inspiration, solace and courage a devastated teenager molested by this sick man draws from speaking to a victim who has survived and built a successful life and family despite the daily pain.
Announce to Margulies the enabler and Kolko the paraphiliac; the moment they have been dreading for decades is here.
Tell the survivors; the moment they have been yearning for is here.
there's a key word here in the psak: "It is clear that he has committed a foul deed, and that this [informing] constitutes a sort of repair of the world."
So far I have not seen a shred of evidence and nothing is clear. Sounds more like a witch hunt to me.
You want to shut people up? Show people facts and evidence, not opinion, hyperbole and semi-literate supporters using odd aliases and yelling childish things about "bombs".
UOJ:
First we had retribution in time for Purim and now in time for the Afikomen.
You, my kind sir, have a credibility problem. Do not promise if you cannot deliver.
Oh, and if you post this Lipa(Schmeltzer not Margulies) was pretty pathetic himself telling unfunny too long stories and singing horribly, I guess the pay was good. No WW in sight, I guess Florida is warm this time of year and there are less collectors there.
I saw Margo and Kolko at a simcha last week, it was a tora temima bar mitzva. They do not look like they are running scared. Margo walked in and was escorted to the head table like he was the gadol hador, was then introduced to speak, and gave a long-winded drasha that no one listened to. Kolko was introduced as being one of the best rebbeim in TT, and everyone came over and gave him shalom. I kept thinking that all these people bowing down to these two low-lifes are going to be in for a big surprise when the truth comes out.
I think aside from the people reading this blog, the vast majority of Flatbush yidden got "the letter" several months ago, didn't see anything come of it, and now it is forgotten. I know that UOJ keeps saying that a lot is going on behind the scenes, it is just distressing seeing these two low-lifes receiving so much kovod, and seeming to not have a care in the world about lawsuits or bais din.
Anon:
They are definitely scared. There is a show they must put on in public, obviously going into hiding would only hurt the public opinion case, but Kolko is scared. I believe this consumes many hours of his time. I'm sure he's seeing attorney's and Rabbi's. I'm sure he's considering lawsuits against those who have "tarnished" his so called reputation. But don't doubt for a second that he and his entire family are not scared. Margo maybe slightly senile at this point, but he too is sitting in conferences over this mess he's created. I'm not sure if anything can happen to Margo because of this perticular issue but if Kolko is in fact removed it would be a good thing.
On an aside: Isn't it ironic (or moronic) that Yeshiva's are so concerned about the parent body that they allow into their yeshiva's to the point of rejecting 90% of the applications, but a person with so many accusations surrounding him (whether true or not) they are so adamant to keep. If a parent with this type of reputation (true or not) came for an interview, the school would throw him out on his ear.
MI K'AMCHA YISROEL!?!?!?!?!
I blame the apathetic community as accomplices in this matter. They are the only reason the thugs at TT are able to exist with such chutzpah.
anon psak
nobody owes you any evidence. the evidence is all over the street. anybody making even a minimal examination i.e. talk to a few people, find out who the victims are, knows the truth.
you don't give two hoots about the truth. even if there were videotapes you would
still defend margo and kolko because you want to protect the establishment at all costs. your in good company. the catholic church. tried to do the same thing. didn't work. many of our organizations and leaders have the same attitude as you. we have to protect the yeshiva sytem at all costs. fools. youre destroying it. youll find out real soon.
anon simcha
margos answer to all his problems is kovod. no matter how evil how or dastardly somebody is -- make him guest of honor put a few pictures in the yated and the look at my shayna chazir feesel.
yes the process is slow. margo is doing all he can to obstruct justice as hes done in the past. only this time its not gonna work. you can run but you can't hide. patience. it won't be long now.
tt parent
get into the real world. stop your prissy im holier than thou attitude. roll your sleeves up and do something instead of criticizing others. an enormous amount of work has been done. the smiles will be wiped off the faces of those arrogant jerks real soon. they were given a chance to things al pi torah. thats the only reason things were delayed. they have no interest in that. they just want to bury this along with the rest of the frum establishment. guess what the kid gloves are coming off. just wait.
The behavior of the entire establishment is indicative of the fraud that has become Judaism.
The community is composed for the most part, of idiots.
This is not Judaism, this has become a cult...the crazier the leader...the more followers they attract.
To the critics that claim we have lost credibility; I spit on you..why have you not done something to prevent the disaster that is coming.
And it's coming...You all could have stopped it...you chose to eat and drink and be merry.
For shame, the work of our honest ancestors flushed down the toilet because of ALL of you.
UOJ and Anon:
Spit, insult and denigrate all you wish to.
The plain facts are these. You cannot deputize the entire parent body and flatbush community to become private detectives and have each do their own investigation. if that is what you are striving for, you have a hopeless task.
You have undertaken this cause. If you have facts, either make them public by naming names, or as you prefer go to the authorities or the media with your evidence, or file civil suits. Do something or move on.
You have warned RM and RK. Only they could have avoided the "disaster" you speak of. You also recongnize that they will not honor or abide by beis din or daas torah. So, why the delay ?
Each day you delay by your own admission you jeapordize the welfare of countless children. Parents cannot act on unsubstantiated claims made anonymously or on this blog.
Follow the Nike slogan. Just do it.
UOJ,
if this is delayed anymore, i would like to propose selling advertising space here.
Years ago Rav Dovid Cohen advised that a molester be reported to the police. That led to a mass mailing that he's a rasha, but anyone with sechel realizes he did the right thing.
To all the cynics out there, the delay by UOJ is the best punishment he can do to the two reshaim.
Don't fool yourself that Margo is cool and relaxed, he's shitting in his pants.
Only a fool would believe that a case like this could be put together quickly.
Take your time UOJ, get it right, I know you will.
I am well aware of the progress and developments in this case, I work for an organization that could be held liable as well.
The "major players" in the secular media are calling for interviews and comments on the case, not the Jewish Press either.
tt parent
firstly your the insulter. you have set your arbitrary time limits and whoever does not meet them is delaying. get real. this stuff doesn't happen overnight.
"If you have facts, either make them public by naming names"
of who -- the victims -- are you serious -- did you ever hear of rape shield laws -- designed to protect the victims from further shame and harrassment -- serve up the names of the victims on a plate so margo and company can start a terror campaign against them threatening them with shidduchim etc. and destroying whatever vestiges of their lives theyve managed to put back together -- margos agents have already "outed" on the internet any victim they think is involved to further shame humiliate and embaress them
"You cannot deputize the entire parent body and flatbush community to become private detectives and have each do their own investigation."
query -- how much detective work goes into evrey shidduch being red for our children -- how many countless hours are spent on the phone to put together a zivvug which affects our childrens entire life and happiness -- who deputized you to do that work -- nobody had to because thats considered appropriate and acceptable -- this work is at least as important -- the problem is its frowned upon by the shvitzers and social climbers in the 20's with the big bucks who decide whats right - to hell with them -- do what you need to do to protect your children -- nothing less is acceptable -- there are many people out there who can attest to the truth of these claims including tt parents -- theyre very easy to find if you really care -- or appoint one parent or investigator to find out for a group
you don't want do anything and you just want to continue your life and not be bothered by these unsettling issues. apparently you can only feel good about that decision if you can blame somebody else -- i think thats really sad
I think you are being hacked.your site suddenly disappeared from my favorite places and I can't get you back on.
In case we get hacked go to:
"aunorthodoxjew.blogspot.com"
check out the crummy JP this week . it addressess uoj and pashkevils.
ABOVE ANON:
I did not set any time line. I was just repeating the time line promised by UOJ and then not met.
The shidduch system has its own major problems, the "investigations" you think so highly of not the least part.
Are you really recommending that in child abuse cases where the welfare of the individuals accused as well as our children are at stake, a bunch of non professional am aratzim run around each doing their own investigation spreading rumors and innuendo in their wake and doing more harm than good ???
And please be consisitent. If protecting victims is a highest priority all well and good. But that just does not mix with people going around saying oh do your own investigation. All you have to do is ask a few people and they will tell you all, name dates and times.
If the information is that readily available, there would be no privacy and the names would have been on this blog ages ago.
My point is UOJ appointed himself, lead investigator and point person in this case. So, either do whatever you are going to do or stand aside. it does not take weeks to go to the media, the authorities or to file a lawsuit.
tt parent:
"it does not take weeks to go to the media, the authorities or to file a lawsuit."
yes it does if you want to do the above things responsibly. rather then bring shame down on our entire community margo was given a chance to this with professionals and talmidei chachamim and bais din. he sabotaged all of that as only margo knows how. so guess what even if it has to be done by "a bunch of non professional am aratzim" so be it. this was margolis choice nobody else.
I notice how you equate the "welfare of the individuals accused as well as our children are at stake". I find that both revealing and interesting. i sense that you have more at stake in this matter than youre letting on. i sense some pain over there. You have my sympathy. the families of the accused are also innocent victims in this mess. but facing reality, as painful as it is, works alot better then being in denial.
TT Parent:
What time frame would you deem appropriate for lawyers to prepare a lawsuit and for investigative journalists to compile a story for publication?
You question the time lapse between the mailing of the letter we all received and the looming media and legal assault.
A little history is in order.
After UOJ delivered on his promise and some 20,000 letters were mailed, Margulies woke up.
At Margulies’ request, UOJ was asked to pause his pursuit of the lawsuit and to stop the media from proceeding in order for the parties to bring their claims to an agreed upon Bais Din. UOJ agreed.
Margulies and Kolko foolishly refused to appear as they had agreed and attempted to sabotage the Bais Din. Naturally, UOJ has now resumed where he had left off and is proceeding with the lawsuit and media.
“Kol Hamerachaim Al Hachzorim, Soifoi Lehois Achzor Al Harachamim”
UOJ reluctantly gave Margulies and Kolko the benefit of the doubt. They in turn exposed their true colors to the world.
The “welfare of the accused” is not of any relevance, this is about preventing future victims.
The accused had every opportunity to prevent the letter from being mailed. Both Kolko and Margulies know of their respective guilt in the atrocities committed against students of TT for decades. Kolko could have spared his family and the TT family the agony of this looming devastation. He refused to retire quietly. Margulies refused to fire him. They were both given an opportunity to resolve this issue as Frum Yidden in a Bais Din. They refused.
The “non professional” route was given a shot. Non-professional Rabonim and Dayonim could have heard this case and decided the matter. Margulies and Kolko blew it.
It’s time for the professionals to step in. The professional investigative journalists, the professional child abuse lawyers, and all the other professionals that follow.
As you no doubt know, the proof of Kolko’s guilt is readily available to anyone willing to look, as is the proof of Margulies’ decades long campaign of lying and intimidation of victims and their families.
Any TT parent interested in finding the truth has found it.
Why are you not shouting it for all to hear? Are you more concerned about the survival of TT than the survival of your children in TT?
Back in July 2005 I wrote "An Open Letter To Mordecai Tendler" posted on the original site-unorthodoxjew.blogspot.com.
I told Mordecai to the letter what was going to unfold.
I am telling the people that want to hear, the end of the days of Torah Temimah as it exists today is over.
Margulies and Kolko And TT will become the dog zevel that they are, for the entire world to see.
I promise!!!!
hey tough guy uoj----next pesach by biur chametz margo and kolko will still be in tt and you'll still be a laughing stock
My point is UOJ appointed himself, lead investigator and point person in this case. So, either do whatever you are going to do or stand aside.
------------------------
Is there anything stopping you from doing what you believes right in this situation?
Go ahead and do your own thing, no one is stopping you. There's room for more than one approach.
A profile of a "frum pedophile"
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
NORTHERN DISTRICT OF ALABAMA
SOUTHERN DIVISION
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
Plaintiff,
vs.
CR-06-MJ-0026-S
SHMUEL ZEV JURAVEL,
a/k/a Samuel Juravel, Defendant.
ORDER OF DETENTION
On Friday, February 24, 2006, Magistrate Judge T. Michael Putnam held
a
Detention Hearing in this matter in which testimony was received and at
the
conclusion of the hearing found that there was a condition or a
combination of
conditions that would enable Defendant to be released on bond. Judge
Putnam set
Bond at $100,000, secured by good and sufficient sureties, with
numerous special
conditions of release imposed. Judge Putnam stayed Defendant’s
release on
Government’s motion until 12:00 Noon, Monday, February 27, 2006.
Defendant was
remanded to the custody of the U. S. Marshal.
FILED
2006 Mar-01 AM 10:53
U.S. DISTRICT COURT
N.D. OF ALABAMA
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On Monday, February 27, 2006, Assistant U. S. Attorney John England
moved for
reconsideration of the detention hearing findings held before Judge
Putnam.
(Doc. 4.) This Court granted the motion for reconsideration and
continued the
stay until 12:00 Noon, Wednesday, March 1, 2006, and a subsequent
detention
hearing was set before the undersigned on Tuesday, February 28, 2006,
at 2:45
p.m.
In accordance with the Bail Reform Act, this Court held a detention
hearing
on Tuesday, February 28, 2006. Evidence in the form of testimony and
exhibits
was received. Considering all such evidence, this Court concludes the
following:
Findings of Fact
The defendant has demonstrated through his use of the internet and
e-mail
that he actively solicits contact with children of a young age. The
defendant, in
addition to the conduct involved in this case, has apparently
solicited
contact with unsuspecting male children ranging in age from 8 to 13
offering an
opportunity to appear in a catalogue for children’s clothes. In
addition, based
on his extensive collection of child pornography, the defendant has
been
involved with the active solicitation and/or collection
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of child pornography for some time - all without his family suspecting
any
of it. These activities are in addition to him seeking out, negotiating
for,
and paying the purchase price for sexual contact with children that
Defendant
thought were 11 and 12 years of age.
Defendant has remarkable intellectual ability as demonstrated by his
success
in dramatically increasing the insurance business of his family’s
firm. The
defendant also has demonstrated his ability to hide his activities from
his
family. It is obvious that he is a member of a very close and loving
family, but
it is clear from the evidence that Defendant has the ability to
continue to
hide his conduct from those who care for him the most.
The defendant’s planning and forethought involved in the conduct
associated
with flying to Atlanta, renting a vehicle to drive to Birmingham,
renting a
room at a separate hotel, bringing with him condoms, pornography (child
and
otherwise), and a digital camera clearly evidences that Defendant has
the ability
to, and in all likelihood will, circumvent most any restriction this
Court may
impose upon him.
Finally, the defendant, if convicted, is facing a potential long-term
prison
sentence. Defendant’s cavalier attitude in seeking out and carrying
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on his activities in the apparent view of his family demonstrates that
he
will in all likelihood not be concerned about the amount of money his
flight from
prosecution would cost him or his family. Therefore, no amount of
security
would reasonably assure his appearance.
The Court finds that there is no condition or combination of conditions
that
will reasonably assure the appearance of the defendant as required by
the
Court or that will assure the safety of any other person and the
community.
Conclusion
The Court finds, therefore, that the Government’s motion to detain
the
defendant is due to be and hereby is GRANTED. It is ORDERED the
defendant be
committed to the custody of the Attorney General and confined to a
corrections
facility separate, to the extent practicable, from persons awaiting or
serving
sentences; that he be afforded reasonable opportunity for private
consultation of
counsel, and that, upon order of this Court or upon a request by an
attorney
for the Government, the person in charge of the corrections facility in
which
the defendant is confined shall
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deliver the defendant to the United States Marshal for the purpose of
appearances in this case.
Done this 1st day of March 2006.
____________
L. SCOTT COOGLER
UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE
124153
Is this the Juravel with the kids' tapes?
The Juravel of the tapes is a Rebbi in Baltimore, MD - this guy is a mortgage broker in Birmingham, AL
Raboisei, does anyone here think Margolies is not reading this blog?
Where is his big denial of all these accusations? Why won't he go to bais din like an erliche yid?
What has happened to us that we allow a nidrike menuvel like him to run a yeshiva?
I say that if we can't get our act together and get rid of Koko and Margolies, we deserve to have the goyim do it for us.
Justice:
They are at the precipe of the abyss and steadfastly refuse to do anything to save themselves. Its so illogical and counter to any rational reason there is only one explanation for this behavior. "Reshaim Afeeloo al Pischoi shel Gehinnom Ainum Choizrem Betshuva." (Evildoers even at the gates of hell refuse to repent). The five most difficult words in the English language must be "I was wrong. I'm sorry." Its just not in their playbook. No matter how overwhelming the evidence, no matter how dangerous the circumstances, they will sit tight. Not because it makes sense but because thats the only direction they can go in. I think margo tried to do the right thing initially. At the end of the day he will always revert to his old sabotaging self.
UOJ:
Shout it for all the world to hear.
Margulies is Lo Tsayis Dina!
Kolko is Lo Tsayis Dina!
Why is this no surprise?
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Margulies refuses to go to bes din and Harav Elyashiv paskins that it is a mitzva to have Kolko put in prison.
And it's no longer Purim! Oilam Hepach Ruisi.
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This person Shumeul juravel is not a broker from Birmingham. He was caught in Birmingham. He's from Savannah,Ga. via Baltimore where his father is a Rabbi. He moved to Sav from Wyoming. A frum guy in Wyoming..No one seems to know anything about this person but everyone in Baltimore knows him.
Daddy's a rabbi..the protection is in place..no one is talking BUT the FBI will get to the bottom of it all.
By the way, juravel will stand trial shortly in Brmingham on Federal charges. He faces 70 years confinement and a $750,000.00 fine. After the trial, Georgia, Maryland and Wyoming have charges against hi and he faces extradition to those staters. How many children's lives did he ruin ?
Please,
Those of you who do not know Mr. Juravel, refer to your common sense- and ask someone that does.
He never lived in Wyoming.
He is not safe from prosecution because he is "the sone of a rabbi". Not at all.
He is in JAIL, justice served. Please do not use him to show what is wrong with the way justice plays out in this gift we all take for granted-the U.S.A., or in the "Frum Community" for that matter.
Stay focused on the many who really are protected, and need to be brought the point where Mr. Juravel is now.
Jailed.
Your wrong ! juravel did live in Wyoming before went to Savannah.
Why do you think that Wyoming has extridation papers out for him ?
I don't think that our government system of justice is wrong; your right, he's caught and hopefully will be in jail for along time.
However I do think the Jewish justice system and the rabbi's are wrong. The rabbi's turned their combined heads when it came to juravel. No one wanted to own up to the fact that perhaps the alligations were right; after all he is the son a a rabbi, he did raise money for the shul, he did take the children out for outing,every week..no one even thought that this was strange for a married man to be with kids rather than his family. Cents got in the way of sense..who he was married to got in the way of issues,this person was off but only a few could see it and when they tried to say something,they were met with "it can't be so".
The rabbi's have been corrupted for their own living, their own power,just like the priests in the church. Hear no evil,see no evil , speak no evil and hope that I'm not implicated..the creed of the rabbi's and the clergy.
Thank you for posting what we have all thought but never had the guts to write it.
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